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btw, neon lights under a car is soooooo 1994! :D

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I sometimes take the PT cruiser to grudge race night at Gainesville, $20 to race all night. You would think that would bring in the fart can kids but it doesn't, there may be 10 cars there but that's the max.
The fact is that the last few generations are not interested in drag racing and most don't even know what it is.
Nope, just give them a computer,a $500.00 phone and a Mall and that's all they need.
Sad.

JimR

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One Friday night at Tulsa, at the test n tune deal, I was in the staging lanes next to a Honda, goofy wing on the deck lid (FWD car), clear tail lights, graphics, etc. he was showing his time slip to another kid. I heard him say "15.34? These clocks are screwed up! Everybody knows this is a nine second car!" Lmao!
Only in his wettest dreams. LOL
Not many run like Cary's.

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I grew up in Florida, and down at the Orlando Speedworld Wednesday & Friday night TnTs, all of the lanes would be full, and people would be lining up even beyond that.

I would say that about half of the cars would be imports; mostly Civics, with some Subaru STIs, Mitsubishi Evos. The other half would be mostly Mustangs, with other stuff mixed in. It seemed like there were always a half dozen guys running their Mazda rotaries with the NOS flowing!

Very few of the import guys showed up for bracket racing on Saturday night.

I guess the import guys know they can't run a consistent number. I haven't been able to come anywhere near consistent in my Honda, though it was much better last time out after installing a line-lock.

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Ran the IHRA Richmond Race this weekend and met 2 other Pure Stockers that ran the meet.
We took our share of competitors out :D

There was a beautiful restored and very fast 1972 Chevelle SS running in H/PS.
The car ran almost a second under the index.
and
Gary Burr and wifes 2001 B/PS LS1 Camaro running 7.70 ET

My car managed a .7778 under in the 1/8 mile race.
Made it to Round 4 Saturday and only Round 1 Sunday.
Lost to some guy that may own a Italian Pizza place.

Sunday it started to drizzle after round one and may have been poetic because the race was cancelled and had a long drive home.

The ride was drizzly all the way back to Maryland.
AND
What shoud have taken 2.5 hours took 4 hours.
I really hate I-95 Virginia Traffic ...bumper to bumper most of the way.
At times white knuckle driving as some drivers tailgated all the way up.
Even if it was a tractor trailer rig.

It was a typical sine curve of speed up slow down with constant slow downs.
Much caused from way too much Car Porn Intercoursing going on and the Rubber Necking to view the exchange to Verbal Fluids of information on the safety lane.:rolleyes:

Dan

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Wish it was like that around here, gave up going weekdays some years back to "practice" in the trophy ET class there were so many street cars at Union Grove.

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Are US Muscle Car Racers afraid of Foreign Racing Cars?

I think they are !!

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I'm sure you know Casey Reed, His newer stock daily driver V6 mustangs runs high 13's with drag tires and he has won his fair share of races lately. These should be in the book.

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Do you drink before you post?

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We've been running our car in NHRA Comp eliminator for 3 seasons. It is powered by a 4G63 engine built by Mitsubishi engine that came in Plymouth Lasers, Eagle Talons and Mitsu Eclipses. It is 125 c.i. and makes 1300 hp. We own the record for our class at 6.57 at 204. We are constantly trying to get more young people involved in class racing to no avail. They don't like the strict rules to follow and all the aggravation with it. They also like heads-up racing. They will not and most can not spend the money for a 3 day race and a lot of them don't have the time off either. I completely agree that we need to get them involved but don't know how. Most of the fast cars would never fit in a stock type class. As mentioned before they all put turbo's on them to race. They can race at local races and take home more money than any class out there now. Take Honda day at Atco. They have a 2 day race on a Sat and Sunday and turn people away at the gate. I'm willing to bet that not very many of the cars racing are bone stock.

My son raced his Eclipse in the Nopi series and the Sport compact NHRA races and had a great time. Unfortunately, neither one survived mostly because of lack of participation. I applaud any effort to get them involved and offer my help in any way.
Bob Niemczyk
http://turbo4.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BXNbULeU8w

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Wow I did not know this..
Before we allow Foreign makes we got to get in the Rule Books the missing America Makes.

Dan

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Oh YES Heavily !


Mostly Diet Water !


D

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WOW impressive !

How many Pure Stocker have gone to FINALS?
 

Is there a way I can find out how many Pure Stocker's that made Finals?

D

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And its broke. Destroyed r&p. More to do

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Dan,
You Can Lead a Camel to Water, But You Can't Make Him Drink ! Unfortunately most are right and Iphone has won over this generation but don't stop and maybe one day someone will listen. Claude p.s. don't hold your breath.

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Cicero thanks for the good words.

I have two key skills and Engineering Degree from Maryland and been in the professional recruiting field for 40 years.

Formed a Corporate Soccer league in Florida in mid 80's
Know one key thing, It is all about one bite at a time !!

Right Now know the following cars.
H/PS 1972 Chevelle - forgot name
H/PS 1987 Malibu Dennis Roberts - Ohio
H/PS Mustang Steve Klacik - Pennsylvania or Ohio
B/PS 2001 Corvette Steve Kaufmann - Texas
B/PS 2001 Camaro Gary Burr - Virginia
G/PS 1995 ImpalaSS Wagon Corbitt Marshburn - think he sold it. - NC
G/PS 1988 Mustang Rob Butler and Record Holder NC
G/PS 1995 Impala SS my car - Maryl;and

Remembering Pure Stockers from last year
C/PS Camaro white forgot owner
H/PS 1957 Chevrolet
I/PS Mustang


FWIW Pure Stockers are essentially the Stockers of the 80's and 90's with Stock Spring Pressure.

A/PS is about the same ET as E/S and E/SA

Just a more cost effective class and should have the Indexes adjusted to allow for the new and faster cars to run.

Dan

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If I'm not mistaken Dan, Corbitt's wagon was a "true" Stock Eliminator car and yes, I believe he sold it. His Pure Stocker was a '95 Impala SS he bought from me many years ago and again, I could be wrong, but I think he and Colby still have it. Last I hear it was collecting dust in his garage. They had Jeff Warren do a motor for it and had it running very well.

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Yes you are correct and ran it as a N or M/SA in NHRA and G/PS in IHRA.

We hooked up at Coastal Planes IHRA race last year.

Corbitt puts together really nice cars.

D

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72 Chevelle is Jim Reynolds... he also had the beautiful older corvette superstocker........
C.J Mcdonald has a 83 orange camaro pure stocker also...
I bought an 83 camaro a few years back to fix for purestock , gear converter ,headers and mufflers and a little carb tweak and ran 1/2 second under ,,,engine had over 125,000 miles on it...It is fun ....

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Wow thanks for the information Danny !!
Heck just add a fresh set of rings and you found a few more. WTG !

Corbitt said he sold the wagon to a fellow in Alabama
He is building a 93 Camero for B or C/PS
Updated list and still growing...

Need to come up with a slogan line..............

Pure Stockers are PURE :D

Dan

H/PS 1972 Chevelle - Jim Reynolds
H/PS 1987 Malibu Dennis Roberts - Ohio
H/PS Mustang Steve Klacik - Pennsylvania or Ohio
B/PS 2001 Corvette Steve Kaufmann - Texas
B/PS 2001 Camaro Gary Burr - Virginia
G/PS 1995 ImpalaSS Wagon Corbitt Marshburn - sold to racer in AL
P/PS 1988 Mustang Rob Butler and Record Holder NC
G/PS 1995 Impala SS my car - Maryland
B/PS 1993 Camaro Corbit Marshburn
H?PS 1983 Camaro CJ McDonald
H?/PS 1983 Camaro Danny Waters

Remembering Pure Stockers from last year
C/PS 94 Camaro Richard Golliday
H/PS 1957 Chevrolet do not remember name
I/PS Mustang

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As far as your slogan ... Pure Stockers are actually "Stockers" ... the other cars that run under Stock now are really SS and maybe even Comp cars. $1K lifters, transmissions that live for how long?, turn-key run 1.0+ under lifting at the 1000' for $100K, ...

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Got that right.
Pure Stockers are the REAL Stockers..

When you are going so fast you need a parachute that is NOT STOCK!!

Dan

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Hey Dan ... off to Ennis in the morning for Super Chevy. New CCW wheels and tires came last night. 16" X 11" rears with MT ET streets and 16" x 4" fronts with Firestones. Lost 42 lbs. in total reciprocating weight for all four and rolling resistance on the front with the skinnies. Here's the best part ... cold front came through yesterday and DA this morning was NEGATIVE 500' and it's supposed to be the same tomorrow. Guess who will be first in the line in the staging lanes hoping to rip off an 11-second pass (still 200 lbs. overweight and without headers)? And if I don't go in the 11s Mrs. Kaufman will give it a try; she is 120+ lbs. lighter than me.

Wonder if anyone has ever went 11s in a Pure Stock car?

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That is the kind of news and history we want.
Then then next quest to be the first 10 second Pure Stocker :eek:

D

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No 11-second pass today but a better 12.22 @ 110 with a 1.64 60'. DA was 1369' and track prep was horrendous. Spun badly every time; could feel it when it left. Time for headers and a Pure Stock cam from Bullet.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...hevy542013.jpg

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x 2!!!

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1957 H/PS is owned by William "Poochie" Langston and the car won a division 9 race in 2004. There is also a mid 70's green Nova that runs Pure Stock in division 9. can't recall his name right now

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That's a great attitude to have.

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Nice pic Steve !!!
Great performance even at 12.20sec, 110 is rockin for a Pure Stocker!
Sounds like you left a couple tenths on the starting line !
11's sure to come and a new National Record !!

Brister !
Thanks for the information that helps a lot..

Love the fact that too many racers are afraid of foreign competition !!

Har Har ( my Pirate laugh)

They can't handle the TRUTH !!

D

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Randall Cantrall (spelling ?) around Burlington / Piedmont area......

Dan the one i had is actually the one C J Mcdonald has now...

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Thans for the up date information.

Got a picture to share ?

D

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What would a pure stock cam be? Do you have an aftermarket cam now?

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No, the cam ... and in fact complete engine ... is 100% stock. 52,000 miles IIRC. It still has the exaust manifolds on it and well as all pollution equipment. Bullet can grind a legal Pure Stock cam that is supposed to be good for 2-3 tenths. With headers and an UD pulley I hope that puts it solidly in the 11s on any track and in any weather.

By the weigh (pardon the pun) finally got to scale it Saturday. Car is only 3135 (no weight savings at all done to it other than the wheels which are only 40 lbs. lighter than stock for all 4) and with me race weight is 3385 which is 110 lbs. heavy for B/PS.

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Last year I had to add weight to stay in G/PS. I changed diet and lost 35 #.
Was doing a lot of Crossfit and Russian Kettlebells but still ate prodigiously from hunger after aworkout just could not loose weight.
Change the calorie intake and a lot of water for 6 weeks POW the weight came off.
Now eating back normally with some changes once the weight came off.

Now on the quest to lose car weight for F/PS but figure out how to lose 300# without taking it off the street.
I love the AC too much after a Competition Run on a hot day :D

AS for a Pure Stock Cam they have to meet all the Stock Cam Specs listed and use Stock Spring Pressures.
Engine RPM is about the same as stock and they manage a few more HP.
This is a perfect Class for either Flat Tappet or Roller Lifters and Stock Stamped Rockers.
Especially Flat Tappet as you will not need pricy Lifters to keep an engine alive.

Pure Stock offers a much higher reliability and it is a simple Cam and Spring change from Big Dog Stock.
AND
then you can run normal street gas and save a pile of money.

Dan




D

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You will probably find a larger gain with a set of correct ratio rocker arms then a blueprint cam. The stock rockers can be really goofy.

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Who would be the best company to talk to about these? If I'm not mistaken roller tips are allowed now. ??? I've never even had the valve covers off so I don't know if the OEM ones are rollers or not on an LS1.

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I know very little about the LS1s. I do know they do not come with roller tips. I'm sure they are available from Comp or one of the others. There are also trunnion upgrade kits available. Sounds like fun.

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The mid 70's Nova is Bobby Zlatkin E/PS

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Using Stamped Rockers required a bit of coaxing.
In the 80s the MacElroy Cam was the hot solution for the 350/255.
To make the cam legal you had to bang the Rocker Stud in forward to kill Rocker Ratio to meet Lift.
Or you ground and lapped the tip to kill ratio.
I know..because I got bounced for too much lift!!

Jeff Warren put brand new GM Stamped Rockers on my engine.
For my particular set up my Blueprinted Cam Card the lift is listed based on a 1.5 ratio.
Had to rebuild that engine because of a hurt piston becaue of a bad Injector.
Putting it back together measured the cam Lift and was a tad under the Stock Lift because the Stamped are around 1.47 Ratio.

Now the LS Engines have Roller Rockers and the Specs should be more precise than mine.

Thanks Brister yes..Bobby Zlatkin's 1974 Nova..Beautiful Car!
Sometimes his picture pops up on Class Racer

D

New List
H/PS 1972 Chevelle - Jim Reynolds
H/PS 1987 Malibu Dennis Roberts - Ohio
H/PS Mustang Steve Klacik - Pennsylvania or Ohio
B/PS 2001 Corvette Steve Kaufmann - Texas
B/PS 2001 Camaro Gary Burr - Virginia
G/PS 1995 ImpalaSS Wagon Corbitt Marshburn - sold to racer in AL
P/PS 1988 Mustang Rob Butler and Record Holder NC
G/PS 1995 Impala SS my car - Maryland
B/PS 1993 Camaro Corbit Marshburn
H?PS 1983 Camaro CJ McDonald
H?/PS 1983 Camaro Danny Waters
E/PS 1974 Nova - Bobby Zlatkin
G/PS 1995 Impala SS Wagon Corbit Marchburn - sold to racer in AL

Remembering Pure Stockers from last year
C/PS 1994 Camaro Richard Golliday
H/PS 1957 Chevrolet William "Poochie" Langston
I/PS Mustang