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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine http://classracer.com/classforum/ima...s/viewpost.gif The BO29 List (Original Owners List) {Not in order of VIN #} 1) Ed Miller,,,,,, 'Ed Miller Racing' Syracuse, New York ,,,,,,,'Syracuse Region Plymouth Dealers' SS/B (4-Speed) 2) Bob Gaudreau,,,,,,,, 'Candy Cuda' Bristol, Connecticut,,,,,,, 'New England Plymouth Dealers' SS/B (4-Speed) 3) Phil Cerrone,,,,,'Harris Auto Sales' East Providence, Rhode Island SS/BA (Automatic) 4) John Macey,,,,,,'Heads Up',,,,'Harris Auto Sales' Bridgeport, Connecticut SS/BA (Automatic) 5) Bob Harrop,,,,,,'Psychotic Reaction' Camden, New Jersey SS/B (4-Speed) 6) Jack Werst,,,,,'Mr. 5 & 50' Morrisville, Pennsylvania,,,,,'Philadelphia Region Plymouth Dealers' SS/BA (Automatic) 7) Bill Stiles,,,,,,'Stiles Performance' York, Pennsylvania,,,,,,'York Area Plymouth Dealers' SS/BA (Automatic) 8) Ken Montgomery,,,,,,,'555' Roslyn, Pennsylvania,,,,,,,,,,,,,'Knopf Plymouth' SS/BA (originally an Automatic, but changed to a 4-Speed) 9) James A. 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Updyke,,,,,'Thomas & Updyke' Tyronne, Pennsylvania SS/BA (Automatic) 10) Tom Myl,,,,,'Pete Myl Chrysler-Plymouth' Corapolis, Pennsylvania SS/BA (Automatic) 11) Jim Skarbuck,,,,,'Private Enterprise' Roanoke, Virginia SS/B (4-Speed) 12) Charles Mercer,,,,'Super Fish' Chesapeake, Virginia SS/B (4-Speed) 13) Sox & Martin,,,,,#784 NHRA Burlington, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed),,,('Lil Boss' on fender, ran during 1968) 14) Sox & Martin (2nd Car) Burlington, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed),,,('Lil Boss on scoop) 15) Don Carlton,,,,,,'Lil Thumper' Lenoir, North Carolina SS/B (4-Speed) 16) Robert Nance,,,,'Mr. Plymouth' Ringgold, Georgia SS/BA (Automatic) 17) Tom Smith,,,,,'Hemi Power',,,,,Kelly Chrysler-Plymouth Marietta, Georgia SS/BA (Automatic) 18) Harold Dutton,,,,,,,'Drag Hag' Forest Park, Georgia SS/B (4-Speed) 19) Larry Todd Jacksonville, Florida,,,,,'St. John's Chrysler-Plymouth',,, St. Augustine, Florida SS/BA (Automatic) 20) Doug Warren,,,,,,,,'Check Mate' Fort Lauderdale, Florida,,,,,'Bill Binko Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 21) Dennis Dinsmore,,,,,,'Hemi Inc.' Fort Lauderdale, Florida SS/B (4-Speed) 22) Ray Christian Columbus, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 23) Bill Vanwey Dayton, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 24) Dick Humbert & Billy Stepp,,,,'Billy The Kid' Dayton, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 25) Arlen Vanke,,,,'East Town Chrysler-Plymouth' Akron, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 26) Wilkes Motor Sales (Bought by Arlon Vanke, for use as his 2nd car) Zainesville, Ohio SS/B (4-Speed) 27) Dave Whitaker,,,,,,,'Queen Bee' Cincinnati, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 28) Bob Porter,,,,,,,'Porter's Pride' Minford, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 29) Al Adamic,,,,,,,'Al's Toy' Wickcliffe, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 30) George Byers Sons Plymouth Columbus, Ohio SS/BA (Automatic) 31) John Livingston,,,,,,,,'Tennessee Thunder' Nashville, Tennessee SS/B (4-Speed) 32) Vaughn Currie,,,,'Soul Explosion' Memphis, Tennessee SS/B (4-Speed) 33) Billy Taylor & Pat Collins,,,,,,,,,'Lil Super Cuda' Memphis, Tennessee SS/BA (Automatic) 34) Bud Moore,,,,,,Crowder Chrysler-Plymouth Harriman. Tennessee SS/B (4-Speed) 35) David Heath,,,,,,'Kentucky Colonels' Owensboro, Kentucky SS/B (4-Speed) 36) Metcalf Chrysler-Plymouth Brewerton, Alabama SS/BA (Automatic) 37) Jim Hale,,,,,,,'Norcross Motors' Fort Smith, Arkansas SS/BA (Automatic) 38) Jerry McClure Greenville, Mississippi SS/B (4-Spree) 39) Van Broussard,,,,,,,'Papa Cuda' Baton Rouge, Louisiana SS/BA (Automatic) 40) Charles Rogers,,,,,,,,'Phantom' Baton Rouge, Louisiana,,,,'Moran Motors' SS/BA (Automatic) 41) Dean Nicopolis,,,,,,,,'Hemi Hunter' Northville, Michigan SS/BA (Automatic) 42) Jim Wick,,,,,'Matchmaker' Fond du Lac, Wisconsin,,,,,,,,,'Packer City Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 43) John Hagen St. Paul, Minnesota SS/B (4-Speed) 44) Nelson Stoltz,,,,,,,,'Kandi-Kuda' Marion, Indiana,,,,,,,,,,'Northside Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/B (4-Speed) 45) Bob Coder Fort Wayne, Indiana SS/BA (Automatic) 46) Schmaltz Concrete SS/BA (Automatic) Osgood, Indiana 47) Jim Halloran Chicago, Illinois,,,,,,,,'Park Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 48) Phil Bailey,,,,'Tinker Toy' Champaign, Illinois SS/B (4-Speed) 49) Chuck Ostrich Nevada, Iowa SS/BA (Automatic) 50) Greg Brennenman Washington, Iowa SS/B (4-Speed) 51) Rich Thomas,,,,,'Rich Thomas Racing' Arnold, Missouri SS/B (4-Speed) 52) Danny Byrd Sikeston, Missouri SS/B (4-Speed) 53) Bruce Sharkey,,,,,'Sharkey Racing Enterprises' Springfield, Missouri SS/B (4-Speed) 54) 'Micro Lube Special' KXOK Radio (sponsored Russel Funk) St. Louis, Missouri SS/BA (Automatic) 55) Billy Coone,,,,,,,'Deguello' (No Mercy) Waco, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 56) Joe Smith Lubbock, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 57) McBroom Motors Pampa, Texas SS/BA (Automatic) 58) Don Grotheer,,,,,,,'Cable Chrysler-Plymouth' Oklahoma City, Oklahoma SS/B (4-Speed) 59) Gordon Stewart,,,,,,'Hair Bender' Sioux City, Souh Dakota SS/BA (Automatic) 60) Dave Wren Missoula, Montana SS/BA (Automatic) 61) Ron McDowell & Jerry Taylor,,,,,,'Gentle Ben' Meridian, Idaho SS/BA (automatic) 62) Judy Lilly,,,,,,,'Denver Plymouth Dealers' Denver, Colorado SS/BA (Automatic) 63) Ken Van Cleave Salem, Oregon SS/B (4-Speed) 64) 'Double Trouble' Hillsboro, Oregon,,,,,,,'Coletti Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 65) Ray Chaffee,,,,,'Pilgrim's Progress' Seattle, Washington SS/B (4-Speed) 66) Wiley Cossey,,,,,,'California Hooker Headers' Baldwin Park, California SS/B (4-Speed) 67) Don Bowers,,,,,,,'Prince Chrysler-Plymouth' Inglewood, California SS/BA (Automatic) 68) 'Bear-A-Cuda' Fremont, California,,,,'Freed Motor Co.' SS/BA (Automatic) 69) George Wejbe,,,,'Hart Beat' Los Angeles, California SS/BA (Automatic) 70) Chuck Poole,,,,,,,,,'Holeshot II' Sacramento, California,,,'Arden Chrysler-Plymouth' SS/BA (Automatic) 71) Town & Country Chrysler-Plymouth Phoenix, Arizona SS/BA (Automatic 72) Dorchester Sales & Service,,,,,'Burke & Jensen' Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada SS/BA (Automatic) 73) McCallum & Wilson Chrysler-Plymouth Oakville, Ontario, Canada SS/B (4-Speed) About as close a list as possible,,,,,, The original BO29's. Unfortunately I cannot post the VIN#'s and/or delivery dates at this time. |
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Wow Charlie A.. That is awsome info to add to this thread, thanks.
This will be great info for people trying to find out about these cars. Hopefully we will get some of the owners of these cars to post the history of their cars so we can create an archive of the Cudas and Darts all in one place for people to research. |
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Paul: Is there other cars that may have been produced and not recorded? The reason that I ask is that Trenda Motors in Grand Forks, ND received an automatic car. When it was delivered, one of the original Owens Corning windows was broken in shipment. The service manager raced it with a fabricated stock style glass until an original OC glass was shipped out. It took along time to get an original OC glass through parts.He moved and the car ended up in IL and raced with the old UDRA regional group of racers.I talked to the original owner about 10 years ago when he came back for a visit and he told me that he never cut the car up to be competitive with the UDRA while he raced it in the IL area. The car was sold way back in the seventies in the IL area. He also raced a new 426/425 auto 1966 belvidere I two door post car in SS/B and it was sold through Trenda Motors too.
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Mr Big Six Man,
There is always a mention of a 1968 Factory Hemi Super Stock 'popping up' {Mystery Car} somewhere. One that is always mentioned is the BO29 out of Brodlieb Motors in Woodmere, New York. (Supposedly crashed into a telephone pole during a midnight test run). And another BO29 found in a garage in Brooklyn, New York. And another BO29 found in Northern - New Jersey. Also Sox & Martin getting a shipment of several ('4') 1968 Barracuda 383 cars (less engine and transmission) in July 1968 or at the end of the 1968 'Production Run' and converting them to SS/B or SS/BA cars, so they could sell them for $10,000 to make some 'dollars'. |
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the car i mentioned being in the backyard in Wilson, NC had a Hemi hood on it and was undeniably a former racecar. i know the hood is something easily swappable from car to car but how many of those hoods ended up on other cars? maybe it was a legit car and maybe it wasn't but someone took that car and did something with it, hopefully it wasn't scrapped.
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Charlie A., Clayton's "Slo Motion" was the original Thomas & Updyke car out of Tyrone, Pa., number 9 on the list provided.
I remember it when it was new, it raced a lot at old Peterson Memorial in Altoona. I sort of think that there was an owner between Thomas & Updyke, that Clayton is the third owner. But, I could be wrong.... I don't think it's been run for years. In addition, the Lydon & Johnson original car is sitting in Jim Lydon's game room, in Pittsburgh. Really. I'll try to come up with some pics. |
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August 1968
Two from my home track, Dover Drag Strip - Wingdale, New York Charlie Castaldo 'SS/B' LO23 Hemi Dart based out of Scarsdale, New York "Heads Up' - John Macey 'SS/BA' BO29 Hemi Barracuda based out of Bridgeport, Connecticut. John got this BO29 with help from Harris Auto Sales, East Providence, Rhode Island. http://doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3/dow...fe190f66579611 http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...1&d=1345784461 |
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http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/f...hemi_plymouth/
This car is owned by a friend in the Tampa area. Paul occassionally drives it to car shows in the area. He gave me a ride to a show at a Steak & Shake in Tampa about 1-1/2 years ago. Of course he had to show off with some hard shifts. That car is brutal. I think he said it is detuned from what is listed in the article. He gave me a scale model of the car with the pink paint job. He also has a Daytona Charger. I took photos of it with my cell phone, but the photos in the article are probably better. I'm sure Stewart has some good photos of it, so I'll check with him. Funny how many Mopar guys are in the Tampa Bay area. When I grew up there, I didn't see many Mopars at all. Now there seems to be a lot of them. |
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I'v never seen that car around here but I haven't made it over to Quaker on Thursdays. I never seem to make it back to Tampa in time to head over there before everyone leaves. I work up in Port Richey about 40 miles north and we close at 6 seems like everyone leaves there by 8, so by the time I get back here they are all going home. I miss the old days when the car stuff lasted till 11 or 12 and racers would go off and the rest would go home.
Thanks for sharing I will make an effort to get over there to see if he's around, I would love to see that car up close. |
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Back in the mid 80's, I started getting an accute need to own either an original LO Dart or BO Barracuda. Having owned an original 70 hemi cuda since 1976 the desire to have the ultimate of muscle cars needed to be fullfilled. There were basically 2 cars that stood out above all the rest for me. One was Paul Emiro's Barracuda, the other Tim Hennessey's Hemi Dart. At the time Paul's car was in a pearl white paint. There was some magazine coverage done on both cars, along with a video of a ride along of Paul's car. I must have it bad or something, because I must of watched that video 50 times, maybe more, & studied pictures of those cars for literally hours.
Very few people take these things out to stretch their legs, & I applaude Paul for having the Kahonnies to do that. Let's face it, they were never meant to be drivin on streets & simulate a freakin pissed off bear doing it. Paul's car never came up for sale, and as carma goes, I now own Tim's car . Hmmm, who woulda thunk it???? liteweight ps; still own that same 70 cuda today, & that particular Dart's been in my corral since 2001.. pss. Great to see you started this thread skypower. That black Barracuda in your avator yours? Is it a BO? |
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Would make a killer picture to see them side by side on a street somewhere. I would LOVE to be part of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad you are geographically so far apart. |
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Sports park. I did race my street car at Oldsmar a few times. There were lots of really cool cars in the area when I grew up. I have owned my Camaro since I was 17. Now 54. |
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This is the original Hemi Cuda that belongs to Jimmy Lydon from Pittsburgh. At one time it was owned by Jimmy DeFrank, and Rick Houser drove it way back. Lydon has had it a long time....and, yes, it is in his game room at his home.
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The 'only' original BO29 that was New York-based.
Ed Miller, sponsored by the Syracuse Region Plymouth Dealers. http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...3b15d476de.jpg |
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Motor made 550hp, 516tq on the dyno, with big tube headers so should have some more torque with my 2 1/8 tti's. |
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Arlen Vanke (1969 Photo)
Dragway 42 (Salem, Ohio) AHRA Classs = B/HR http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...ArlenVanke.jpg |
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The 'Mystery' Barracuda
Here at New York National Speedway in 1969. A real BO29 or a Garage Manufactured Car. 'Jerry's Automotive' http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/717/img030kj.jpg |
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Sox and Martin car on the block at mecum 195,000 bid goes on.
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http://imageshack.us/a/img706/9980/unknowncuda2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/3417/schmaltz.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img15/1862/schmaltz2.jpg Any idea who the first Cuda's owner is? M68 |
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http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1319/unknowncuda.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/9751/rossisiemer.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img580/1950/johnarchambault.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img10/8070/johnhagen.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img21/2842/stevebagwell.jpg Any idea who the first Cuda belongs to? Centolanza Bros.? M68 |
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