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rtr0id 05-30-2014 11:18 AM

Re: Live from Englishtown,NJ - NHRA Summernationals
 
us desk jockey racers really appreciate these "LIVE" threads

thanks!!

Jack Matyas 05-30-2014 12:55 PM

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Stock got their last shot this morning and will have their first round in an hour or so .S/S started their class runoffs .Today the temps have risen and most have slowed up .05 to .07 and climbing .

Ken Miele 05-30-2014 01:06 PM

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The first photo is Class Racer member Pistol Pete. Pete's 89 K/SA is sporting new an always cool back paint job.

The rest of the photos are in the staging lanes for Stk Q3.

Ken Miele 05-30-2014 01:09 PM

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A few more....Stk has just be called to the lanes for round 1. We are on hold for a bit, a super gas car, don't know the drivers name, hit the wall at the top end. He is out of the car and unhurt.

Robert McCoy 05-30-2014 01:39 PM

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Nice Run in GT/AA for Jeffery Lawrence -1.06

modelman1960 05-30-2014 02:00 PM

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Hey Ken, Thanks for posting a picture (or 2) of Allyson Smyth's Portatree
Firebird. Hard competitor there.
Walt

mat H/SA 05-30-2014 02:39 PM

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talk about a close race !
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
1122 TJ Boucher 13 Bryan Worner
C2 ****WINNER**** 0.050 9.658 137.98 0.003 9.707 137.25
GT/EA Index: 10.65 (+/-): -0.992 GT/EA Index: 10.65 (+/-): -0.943
Prior rounds:
C1 (B Stianchi ) 0.004 9.715 137.98 (R Panza ) 0.032 9.731 128.36
Qualified: #22 9.751 NS #52 9.939 127.69

Frank Castros 05-30-2014 07:08 PM

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Thanks guys, seriously, is D1 not the bomb!

Mike Brogniez 05-31-2014 09:01 AM

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Next to getting hurt or hurting the car's mechanicals at the track is being eliminated in the first round....to all in this situation, hope you put it behind you quickly, enjoy life and focus on your next race.

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 09:52 AM

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Good morning all, its a picture perfect day, sunny with the temps in the low 70's today. The only issues for this mornings eliminations is the strong tail wind. Getting the right dial will be tough.

Here a few shots of racers that are still in getting ready for this mornings action. Stock is out first with a 10:15 start.

Jack had to leave for business reasons, so todays reports will be from me. It will be a short version as I will be heading out after a few rounds of stk/ss.

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 12:07 PM

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Stock is done with their second round and Super Stock just finished up with their first. There was a unfortunate incident were Joe Santangalo missed his run by a few minutes. Everyone knows how much of a supporter I am of NHRA, probably to much so, but they really screwed up this time.

Joe just finished running a heads up in stock, and as most know heads up races are usually last. Super Comp finished up quick with only 15 pair to run between stk and ss. Joe's opponent, Robert Panza was told to go to the burnout box and then told to do his burnout and stage. Joe was being escorted through the pits by NHRA officials to get there as fast as he can, he was parked way past the finish line. Joe got up there and needed no more than 30 seconds to get ready, NHRA told Robert to stage and the rest is history.

What a terrible call by the NHRA officials, there were many cars all ready paired up and ready to go. Its amazing that the pit officials were escorting Joe and the track officials were telling Robert to race, do they use the same radios or what.

Just a little common sense would have made this a none issue. Now NHRA has two race teams upset with each other for a bad call.

I have lots of photos of stk/ss, as soon as I finish editing, I will post them.

Brett C 05-31-2014 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 433286)
Stock is done with their second round and Super Stock just finished up with their first. There was a unfortunate incident were Joe Santangalo missed his run by a few minutes. Everyone knows how much of a supporter I am of NHRA, probably to much so, but they really screwed up this time.

Joe just finished running a heads up in stock, and as most know heads up races are usually last. Super Comp finished up quick with only 15 pair to run between stk and ss. Joe's opponent, Robert Panza was told to go to the burnout box and then told to do his burnout and stage. Joe was being escorted through the pits by NHRA officials to get there as fast as he can, he was parked way past the finish line. Joe got up and needed no more than 30 seconds to get ready, NHRA told Robert to stage and the rest is history.

What a terrible call by the NHRA officials, there were many cars all ready paired up and ready to go. Its amazing that the pit officials were escorting Joe and the track officials were telling Robert to race, do they use the same radios or what.

Just a little common sense would have made this a none issue. Now NHRA has two race teams upset with each other for a bad call.

I have lots of photos of stk/ss, as soon as I finish editing, I will post them.


Terrible!

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 12:35 PM

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Second round of stock in the staging lanes and under the tower.

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 12:38 PM

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More Stock...

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 12:44 PM

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More Stock and first round of Super Stock in the staging lanes and under the tower.

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 12:52 PM

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More..

Ken Miele 05-31-2014 12:56 PM

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This is the last of the photos, and I'm just about to hit the road. I hope you all enjoyed the live from.

Jack Matyas 05-31-2014 01:14 PM

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Here are more S/S ers to enjoy ............

HR9121 05-31-2014 03:35 PM

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I hope Joe didn't get ugly with them because it will probably cost him more than his entry fee. If he did I'll donate.

tim worner 05-31-2014 03:50 PM

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Wonder who the "rent-a-cop" was at the starting line making the call.

Mark Yacavone 05-31-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 433300)
I hope Joe didn't get ugly with them because it will probably cost him more than his entry fee. If he did I'll donate.

No, Joe Sr and Jr wouldn't do that ..They are a class act..
Now on the other hand ..if is was me....

HR9121 05-31-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 433303)
No, Joe Sr and Jr wouldn't do that ..They are a class act..
Now on the other hand ..if is was me....

Pretty sure you would be reading about my fine this coming week.....

Rich67stang 05-31-2014 08:13 PM

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8pm and Supergas has never been down the track...what a Sh!t show. I particularly like what they did to Mr Santangelo, nice guy and good racer gets screwed. everyday people ask me why I do not race NHRA events, prestige my *****, it is only as important as an individual makes it. MIR in two weeks, Thank you.

Rich Biebel 05-31-2014 08:32 PM

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It's ridiculous and to think I was actually trying to get in for this torture....

Now I am very happy I was not able to get in....and this is the exact reason why I have not run an NHRA national event for many years....

C and W Racing 05-31-2014 09:08 PM

Re: Live from Englishtown,NJ - NHRA Summernationals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 433286)
Stock is done with their second round and Super Stock just finished up with their first. There was a unfortunate incident were Joe Santangalo missed his run by a few minutes. Everyone knows how much of a supporter I am of NHRA, probably to much so, but they really screwed up this time.

Joe just finished running a heads up in stock, and as most know heads up races are usually last. Super Comp finished up quick with only 15 pair to run between stk and ss. Joe's opponent, Robert Panza was told to go to the burnout box and then told to do his burnout and stage. Joe was being escorted through the pits by NHRA officials to get there as fast as he can, he was parked way past the finish line. Joe got up and needed no more than 30 seconds to get ready, NHRA told Robert stage and the rest is history.

What a terrible call by the NHRA officials, there were many cars all ready paired up and ready to go. Its amazing that the pit officials were escorting Joe and the track officials were telling Robert to race, do they use the same radios or what.

Just a little common sense would have made this a none issue. Now NHRA has two race teams upset with each other for a bad call.

I have lots of photos of stk/ss, as soon as I finish editing, I will post them.

I think Nhra should have waited. We all know that if it was Fletcher or Biondo, they would have waited. It should be fair for all of us that participate in this sport
Chuck

Casey Miles 05-31-2014 10:41 PM

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Does anyone know if NHRA did their jobs and have cars go to the barn? If not, why not, what are we paying for with our membership and ridiculous entry fees to NHRA? NHRA is supposed to do their "do diligence" and make sure that all the cars in the field are within spec. When I went to Englishtown back in the 70's and 80's, I was one of the cars always picked for tear down. Didn't matter where you qualified, you could be the one of many to be taken apart. (usually 10 to 15 stockers alone) I personally don't care, I would take my car apart anywhere no matter if I'm last on the Q sheet where I usually hang out.
I want to see cars come apart, not to make money for NHRA, but to see if all the players are fair and square.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

RJDUDEK 05-31-2014 11:06 PM

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GREAT pics.

Walking thru the pits..Fri.>

Just my 2c...Is this stunningly clean monster..(engine bay in a SS/CA) ..just off the charts?

Greg Barsamian 06-01-2014 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RJDUDEK (Post 433350)
GREAT pics.

Walking thru the pits..Fri.>

Just my 2c...Is this stunningly clean monster..(engine bay in a SS/CA) ..just off the charts?

John Kakalecik's, "Drop Dead Georgous" SS/CA Cuda,
One of THE BEST APPEARING AND BEST ENGINEERED Race cars on the planet! ;)

Frank Castros 06-01-2014 07:08 AM

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The Santangelo's obviously got screwed, because of a failure to communicate.

I have said this to my friends for years, if I still raced, you wouldn't see me at a NHRA national event.

What a joke, they should admit their mistake, and refund his entry fee.

Larry Hill 06-01-2014 07:14 AM

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It looks like Joe was in the first three pairs in superstock.

Ken Miele 06-01-2014 07:59 AM

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Yes, I did fail to mention that Joe was one of the three designated pair to run first. What I don't understand is why the officials did not pull the many cars that were already paired up and ready to go.

I know that rules are rules and we all know them, but a little common sense and courtesy towards the racer could have been easily applied with no time delay.

Dan Fletcher 06-01-2014 08:04 AM

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C&W, sorry to disappoint you, but you're dead wrong, there's zero percent chance NHRA would have waited for anyone in this situation. Its a far different scenario than being in with two cars in late rounds and NHRA waiting for you to get back with the second one. Anyone that runs two cars is afforded that simple courtesy. Joe has been in that situation many times.

This is the designated first 3 pairs deal that seems to make everyone sooooo friggin' happy. Joe is a friend of mine. He has driven my car before. I haven't spoke to him about this, but I can only guess he wasn't aware he was a designated pair.

Simple to address if he was aware, even being last in stock with 15 pairs of sc in between. Drive the stocker to scales, park it, scooter it up to the ss car that dad had waiting in the lanes. End of story. I guarantee it won't happen to him again.

I love to rail against the machine as much as the next guy, but I'm missing where NHRA did anything wrong.

Ken Miele 06-01-2014 08:54 AM

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I took this video of this C/SA heads up race between Joe Santangelo driving Anthony Bertozzi's 1969 Camaro and Paul Cambria in his 1994 Camaro, Joe gets the win. Its not the best quality, but thought it was still worth posting.

Click on the full screen icon to get a better view of wheelstanding Camaro's.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg7dFUid-Cw&feature=share&list=UUIPkN6w3aT8XGT1a4QTqU6g"]1969 Camaro C SA Joe Santangelo Supernationals May 31 2014 - YouTube[/ame]

HR9121 06-01-2014 11:34 AM

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Is it posted somewhere who the first 3 pairs for first round or announced?

Lew Silverman 06-01-2014 12:02 PM

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If you look at the bottom of the Eliminator ladder the three highest qualified vehicles, and the competitors they are paired with, will be the first out for the first round. The NHRA started doing this last year.

dannyboy 06-01-2014 12:06 PM

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At the NHRA Trailer where you get you Racer Credentials, right by Race schedule and qualifying sheets.

Dan Chipman

HR9121 06-01-2014 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 433397)
If you look at the bottom of the Eliminator ladder the three highest qualified vehicles, and the competitors they are paired with, will be the first out for the first round. The NHRA started doing this last year.

So it's up to the racer to know if they are in the first three pairings?

jmcarter 06-01-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 433402)
So it's up to the racer to know if they are in the first three pairings?

It's designated on the ladder.

Ron Ortiz 06-01-2014 01:44 PM

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I was one of the first three pair out at last years Gators, 2013. I was notified by NHRA e-mail on Tuesday before the race, of the first three pair out rule, which was a new thing.
Nobody came up to me to tell me that I was one of them as I was real slow at that event and qualified in the bottom three. I went to the scales in the morning as I was warming the car up and asked if I was one of the three on the bottom. The tech guy looked it up and said yes, you better get up there. Being an idiot and not having a watch with me i went back to my pit area to pic up my cell phone which was charging. As i got into the car I heard the first pair go out and halled butt to the lane to miss out by about 45 seconds.

This year at the Gators I was on the bottom three again but was told several times by officials who came by the previous day and in the morning.

It is the racers responsibility to know what is going on, but if I had been informed like this year, last years situation would have been avoidable.

I presume that NHRA should be aware of this situation now in its second year of enforcement and take the necessary steps to provide their "customers" with competition related information.

Now if they only would get rid of scales and fuel check during competition unless it is heads up, but that's for another thread

Ron Ortiz
U/SA been there done that

gbur 06-01-2014 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 433397)
If you look at the bottom of the Eliminator ladder the three highest qualified vehicles, and the competitors they are paired with, will be the first out for the first round. The NHRA started doing this last year.

But Joe was q'd 40th,that doesn't put him in the first few pairs, Panza was q'd 87


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