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Just like many successful businesses, the NHRA has grown significantly over the years and with that growth comes more employees and related operational expenses. If they cannot meet those expenses through event ticket sales, memberships, and race car fees they have to get creative as a means of meeting their financial obligations. That is the most likely reason their sponsorship program is set up the way it is. Unfortunately, they have chased away some pretty good sponsors.

On another note, I was told that all racers in the pro ranks do not have to pay admission to any of the NHRA events, is this true?

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Nelson,
Your PM box is full.

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Sounds like the airline industry and their various little fees.

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Personally I think it's a hold out that should be stopped.
Think about it, nhra was the "authority" that would make sponsors pay out, if you won and somebody didn't pay it would be a battle to get your money as a lowly individual. But by giving the money to nhra it would get to the racer.
Now,
Jump ahead 30-50 years..today there is internet and how many times have you seen on here "XXXX COMPANY WON'T PAY CONTINGENCY" Everybody kmows instantly and the company better pay or people get wise real quick and stop running the parts/decals.

So, what is the purpose of nhra now? To guarantee racers get their money? LOL (that even sounded funny typing it)

I say there is no reason for the money to go to nhra. (especially when they charge company's for the processing fee)
All company's post their contingencies (heck put it in ND and nhra can charge the companies $50 for a year long "ad" or whatever) You mail the company directly, they mail you a cheque. Or they can have a rep at the track to hand out the cheque etc.
For a company to have to pay $7K or more for the "priveledge" of giving racers money seems rediculous to me.

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I heard NASCAR is even worse. You better bring a wheelbarrow full of cash to have your products endorsed by them.

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They are charged for the opportunity to advertise and promote their products to NHRA members and at NHRA events.

How the NHRA runs the program is another story.

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OK ,so who's business plan is this....let's grow the organization, oh wait a minute how are we gonna pay for it? This has played out in every city near us...all new schools, busses more teachers then WHAM OMG we need another levy passed, please support the schools. Same plan different wrapper.

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To add to what Joe said:
The operational policies of NHRA were set up way before any of the economy crunches hit or their growth demanded more people. One of the problems is the lopsided salaries some of the execs and past execs get. Most of the board is way over paid. Someone said there are a couple of double dippers, too. If you have ever seen any of their tax returns you could understand they are set up on Greed.

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Companies are better off sending some product and a hoodie to the guys on Street Outlaws. Way better exposure.

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It always seems with large organizations both public and private the more cash coming in, the more the people running the show help themselves to the goodies. There are executives here in Wayne County, (Detroit) that gave themselves a sweetheart deal where they get more money in retirement pension than they received in salary when they worked. This type of nonsense is what gets organizations in trouble. So what do they do, they charge more in taxes or for the products they sell. Wayne County at the moment is in big financial trouble.

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That is the nature of 501c's. More,More,More.So they can spend it all !!. The best way to spend it is on their own board and administrators. Haven't you seen the list going around of what part of the Dollar you give gets to the needy. Most of those are top heavy with large salaries. That is just like a racing organization we know a little about.

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Sounds like someone advocating cutting the payouts and just give trophies. Wally would be so proud..

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They have to pay for Compton's Bently, right?

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NHRA=Greed

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Simple question.. Does that up front money in any way help get a product on the the product acceptance list ?

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now Adger, that is a pretty broad brush. I have served with and continue to serve for some local charities that are staffed mainly with volunteers including the board members. I agree there are some out there that serve themselves more than the community. do the research before donating. Always look at the overhead costs when considering a contibution. the real issue is that NHRA has grown into a business that is way too top heavy and only is able to stay afloat because of the breaks they get as a non-profit. i wish they would flush the upper management and start over. the only problem is that they would probably call themselves a church, take more tax breaks and give compton another raise!

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The (tax exempt) Church of NHRA? Baptism by Nitro??

I think you're onto something here!!

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I just had to chime in here. My hat is off to the ATI crew for pulling out of NHRA.I got sick of NHRA'S greed a long time ago.I hope this is a new trend to cut NHRA out of the loop and have the manufacturers pay the winners
runner up ,class, etc.on their own. Also I feel it is the right thing to do to
run a manufacturers decal if he is paying me prize money.(remember they don't have to ) Shop-Rite isn't paying me class money just because I buy groceries there.I have and always will promote the people who help me
and pay me.As one racer stated on this thread , fans do come up and ask what and why you are using a certain product,engine , converter, etc.One last thing , I hope the stock-super stock races get bigger and stronger
run buy the racers -for the racers. Maybe the manufacturers will stop and take notice. As soon as i can afford it again that's where you will find my
big black Chevy wagon. Al jr.

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The 2015 contingency are up and Strange Axles are on the list right now, but like most it might not be right. Also Sunoco the official fuel of NHRA is not on the list. Total payout if you have all products are TF and FC 7000 for win 2100for RU. Super Stock is 20,585 for the win with all products [we know this not possible] and 8065. for the RU. Stock is 17935. 7765. for the RU. Tom

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Unfortunately if companies keep going around the system, Nhra will outlaw non contigency stickers, that will be a real slippery slope for everyone. Easy for NHRA to enforce, tech will make you fill out sponsor list and if caught running, not pay any winnings or contigencies.
Will make many racers furious, but look how NFL enforces rules.

Actually may be the best thing for NHRA management, drive all the sportsman racers away and just have the PRO's to deal with.

Problem, Where will all sportsman racers race?.

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IHRA,locally,independently etc Plenty of other options....

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Seven pages of bitchin about NHRA, but you all still keep supporting them, with entry fees.

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I just came across this on Facebook. And I have not seen it here so I thought I would forward it along for anybody interested.



Strange Engineering will continue its NHRA National Axle (Pro Race and Alloy) contingency program through NHRA for 2015.

Pulling out this year would not have been fair to the Hyatt racing trailer (which transports our displays and service products to all NHRA national events) to replace our spot on such short notice. The Hyatt’s have been very loyal to us, so we wanted to ensure they had ample time for a replacement. We will not be on the midway in 2016 and will review, towards the end of the year, if NHRA has made enough changes to give its contingency program a better value. To be absolutely clear – we WILL have a contingency/reward program(s) for our customer’s that race NHRA- no matter what we decide – Jeff Stange

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blkjack, you have a private message.

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I agree with Tim. PLUS, it's pretty hard to see a sticker on a car moving at 180 mph vs. a car sitting at the starting line staging.

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We were discussing this the other day and a couple of thoughts

1 How many parts are sold because Strange is on the Contingency list?
2 How many racers recommend Strange to Non Nhra racers because of Strange Contingency?
3 What does it cost for NHRA to handle the contingency program processing 24 nationals and 40 LODRS events?

The contingency list is advertising, if it cost $13K for strange to be in the program how else would strange spend this advertising money?
1/2 page ad in my local paper is $600 each time

I do not know the policies, but some things to think about.