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Yes, I had one back then. Set a couple of records with it.
NHRA Pure stock never had much of a car count either.
They won't add it back now.

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Maybe they will if enough of us ask!
Ed please help and spread the word.

Fwiw....one of the other blogs was about the future of Stock.
Well this is one answer to save Stock bringing back Pure Stock.
Use or mod the IHRA rules to make it better.

There is a building interest and get a good bit of emails.
Every track I go to racers are talking about Pure Stock.
They want to run Stock and not enough budget or time for a full Stocker.
Me I like the economy of the class. Such as using pump high test.
Putting the car back on the street is fairly easy.

Two weeks ago at Empire Raceway four of us met and had a great conversation!
Two were building new Pure Stockers.
Got to meet the owner of the rocking quick A/PS Belvedere.

One last thing.
Stock has a following and racers that want to compete.
Some of us can put a little in at a time to make it more competitive.
I raced my 1995 ImpalaSS in ECIRS for several years.
Got it to run quick enough to run under the index.

I did not have room for a trailer at home.
So drove the car to the tracks changing tires.

This is a great opportunity waiting to happen.
Especially the young kids with the hot new cars.

All of us Pure Stocker racers..please add your voice.
Send a letter to NHRA asking them to add Pure Stock.

Then let's kick some butt!

Dan

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Dan anybody in particular to send the letter to ? Im in my sixties and excited to start racing in the Pure Stock class.

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I went to the NHRA site and sent to all the Directors.
Will send a follow up.

Dan

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Dan , Iam doing the same right now, letters and prayers.

Jerry

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Maybe, but slim for NHRA to consider, best of luck Dan

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Gary and all
To be in the game you got to ask to play!
If this happens it is because we had the balls to do it together!

D

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NHRA thinks present Stock & Super Stock cars are a tech pain in the rear. Your stuff would have more strict rules. I can not imagine them adding you guys. Looser rules = easier to tech. No more cam duration checking like Stock is now. I have been through several tear downs under the old Stock rules. Cam checking was time consuming, and difficult in some engine compartments. Ask yourself why they would want to take on more of that.

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Ed
Understand this well. Been through several tear downs.
You figure with new technology you can determine duration and lift with an AP on our phones.

Think there need to be a rethink on the Spring Rule.
Limiting to 100# Seat and fixed Spring Slection.
Measure the cam like in Stock, lift only!
Requires less time in tear down.

Again...will have to deal with it.
But going to solicit NHRA.
D

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Dan I understand you're passionate about this, but looking at Nitrojoe's IHRA stats as of May 25, I'm just not seeing much demand for it.

1/8th mile
52 traditional stock
1 FWD
3 GT
37 CM
11 PS
21 EFI

1/4 mile
27 traditional stock
1 FWD
2 CM
1 PS
20 EFI


There are over 3 times as many crate motor cars and I'm not hearing anyone clamoring for them in NHRA. It's just too many classes. With all those PS, CM, EFI, and stock GT classes diluting the field when was the last time you had a heads up?

I'm oversimplifying as this doesn't apply to everyone of course, but IHRA stock just seems much more focused on bracket instead of heads up, 1/8th mile, and lower cost cars like PS and CM. Doesn't mean it is bad, just different. I think to ever make your case you'd need to have much more PS participation in IHRA than there is currently.

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Well stated.

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The way I'm seeing all of this, if they have pure stock with a cam lift check only, that I could take my traditional stocker, put a mech. fuel pump,stock rockers,waterpump and pulleys and run pure stock. To me that's two classes way to much alike and I don't think any sanctioning body would go for it.. Just my 2 cents worth.

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KDanner...
My experience has been the number of people who email me with questions.
The number one comment made preventing people from building.
No IHRA tracks nearby but lots of NHRA.
Most of the Pure Stockers are in the east because there are enough IHRA tracks.
The number would easily multiply if NHRA would allow Pure Stock.

As for crate motor classes, most cars are on the East Coast too.
However I do not see anyone from the CM racers willing to take a stand.
Which is sad!
Because these are classes that will also help invigorate Class Racing.

There was a long thread not to long ago about the future of Stock.
Well here are two solutions to help it progress!

Requires liberal doses of asking and persistence.
You want something to improve.
You got to get off your fat *** and do something about it!

Write!!

Peace
Dan

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Add Mufflers, Stock Spring Pressure, no fancy Roller rockers or Shubeck lifters, do not need forged Pistons, or fancy rods, no racing gas, mostly no roll bar.
Keep stock seats and seat belts which do not have to be certified.
Keep your ABS system, AC, and can put your street tires on to drive on the street if you keep it licensed.

If you want you can still graduate to full Stock upgrading, testing and so on.
All the while still racing Stock.

It is about getting more racers into the game.

D

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Well that's true of course, people aren't going to build a car they can't race within a reasonable distance. I like numbers, let's look at how many PS participants in each division.

If we call Div 1, 2, and 9 the East, those 3 divisions accounted for:
D1 - 4 in 2014, 3 in 2015
D2 - 4 in 2014, 5 in 2015
D9 - 5 in 2014, 3 in 2015

I see one racer listed in 2 east coast divisions for 2014, 2 for 2015, which makes the total for the entire east coast:
12 racers in 2014, 9 racers in 2015

OK, if that's the hotbed where most PS are, let's check other areas where there are IHRA tracks/races:
D3 - 2 in 2014, 0 in 2015
D4 - 0 in 2014, 1 in 2015
D6 - 0 in 2014, 0 in 2015

I just don't see the numbers, even in places where anyone could run PS right now.

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Do no not know where you got the numbers.
I know two Pure Stockers are being built now.
Chris Kilrane just built a H/PS Mustang.
Few other Stocker racers have Pure Stockers as back up cars.

Check out the Pure Stock Photo gallery.
11 Pure Stockers show up at last years AutoMeter Class Nationals.
Pure Stock Drags.com group has ton of them that would fit in Pure Stock.

Getting NHRA to follow along.
IMHO a lot more racers will build a Pure Stocker.

As for the grumpy anti Pure Stock community.
They just have to get past the jealousy !

Dan

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I used NitroJoe's stats for the year 2014 and for 2015 through May.

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Just went to the site.....other than asking NitroJoe where are they?

d

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No matter what u say delusional dan will keep wasting bandwidth. Dan just likes talking to himself Pure Stock ain't dead it never existed

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some people

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They are in books which Joe sells, you can contact him via his website to purchase a subscription.

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OK cool..
Have emailed him..!

BTW just got an email of a racer wanting to buy a Pure Stocker.
Please pass the word.
Gave him a couple suggestions..

Brent Darroch has a D/PS Camaro and Corbitt Marshburn may have one too.

Dan