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Dan Fahey 05-08-2016 08:15 AM

Re: NHRA and the Master Plan
 
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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502925)
I read the post just fine Dan.And as far as Al and his"pure stocker" and for that matter pure stockers,crate motors and all the other ihra classes that all run ihra"stock eliminator" frankly i think they are a joke...it should just say pro et....run what ya brung....put some letters on the window and call it what u may! I think Al was confused and thought the Indy pts meet was an ihra race! But then again their are alot of REAL racers on here I have alot of respect for and then u have the other over opinionated, no race,dreamers like you Dan and your buddy Al!

Now we understand .... your grumpy deep prejudices!
We are all have fun doing what we do.
And yes we dream of winning, sharing, building, what to do next.
All kinds of cool liberalating ideas figuring how to do Drag Racing better....our way!

In the meantime ignoring your malicious behavior!

I love Pure Stock....moving on...bye..bye!

D

james schaechter 05-08-2016 09:06 AM

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Jason, your response seems pretty harsh. If you are going to judge these guys as not being real racers, maybe you should take the time to outline your extensive resume for them. I know your Father races and is a good sportsman. I meant your car that you bought or built and raced. You don't have to agree with everyone, but you know, we all are pulling for sportsman racing here. It is Not necessary to be so obtuse about it.

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502925)
I read the post just fine Dan.And as far as Al and his"pure stocker" and for that matter pure stockers,crate motors and all the other ihra classes that all run ihra"stock eliminator" frankly i think they are a joke...it should just say pro et....run what ya brung....put some letters on the window and call it what u may! I think Al was confused and thought the Indy pts meet was an ihra race! But then again their are alot of REAL racers on here I have alot of respect for and then u have the other over opinionated, no race,dreamers like you Dan and your buddy Al!


Jason McGinley 3383 05-08-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 502928)
Jason, your response seems pretty harsh. If you are going to judge these guys as not being real racers, maybe you should take the time to outline your extensive resume for them. I know your Father races and is a good sportsman. I meant your car that you bought or built and raced. You don't have to agree with everyone, but you know, we all are pulling for sportsman racing here. It is Not necessary to be so obtuse about it.

James.....maybe I was a little hard on them but they don't race and they have an opinion on everything! As far as my resume goes I have been around and involved with stock eliminator racing for 20 plus years.I have owned and raced a number of cars including Jerry Bennets old 79 Chrysler Lebanon In stk elim.I am a past track champ at Indianapolis Raceway Park. I raced 13 Times last year in my current car a 2001 camaro SS and went to the et finals.I just finished the camaro getting it ready for stk and will be at bowling green at the end of the month at the sportsnationals.

james schaechter 05-08-2016 10:25 AM

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Good to have you back in the stocker world then! I saw those guys on qualifying sheets and nitro Joe stats. I would say they race. I did not see you on there. I guess that explains it.
I also race as time allows. Stock and Superstock.

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502932)
James.....maybe I was a little hard on them but they don't race and they have an opinion on everything! As far as my resume goes I have been around and involved with stock eliminator racing for 20 plus years.I have owned and raced a number of cars including Jerry Bennets old 79 Chrysler Lebanon In stk elim.I am a past track champ at Indianapolis Raceway Park. I raced 13 Times last year in my current car a 2001 camaro SS and went to the et finals.I just finished the camaro getting it ready for stk and will be at bowling green at the end of the month at the sportsnationals.


Jason McGinley 3383 05-08-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 502934)
Good to have you back in the stocker world then! I saw those guys on qualifying sheets and nitro Joe stats. I would say they race. I did not see you on there. I guess that explains it.
I also race as time allows. Stock and Superstock.

You saw them on a qualifying sheet at a NHRA race? I don't think so.Maybe at a IHRA race.I guess that explains it.

Bob Mulry 05-08-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz (Post 502847)
There is no minimum ET requirement to qualify in an NHRA pro eliminator. If the numbers of entries allows it you can qualify by idling down the track on every run.

And your point being what........

This is an illustration of the lack of participation in the PRO classes....

Bob

Gary Smith 05-08-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 502575)
Anybody else paying attention to the outlaw races out there? Recently at South Georgia Motorsports Park the had a race called "Lights Out" that netted over 60,000 spectators! That's right, SIXTY THOUSAND spectators (they were climbing over the fences to get in when the gates closed)
to watch all sorts of big and small tire, turbo, supercharged. N/A race cars do battle for unbelievable amounts of money. Is this the way of the future? Jim

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I remember asking Carl Weisinger about his October "street car" shootout race many years ago, told me he felt "this is the direction the sport is going". When the one who holds the "entry gate keys" he will know best. NHRA needs to follow the money, not the nitro.

james schaechter 05-08-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502937)
You saw them on a qualifying sheet at a NHRA race? I don't think so.Maybe at a IHRA race.I guess that explains it.

Jason, I do know Dan is a pure stock racer so yes IHRA, but ALMack has raced more nhra races than you have lately. He has a right to an opinion same as you do, that's all.

BBF67 05-08-2016 03:18 PM

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Just to set the "record" straight here's ALMack's credentials. He currently holds the NHRA P/SA and Q/SA 1/4 mile records.

P/SA 12.34 105.94 10/11/15 Alan Mackin - Bardstown, KY '84 Thunderbird Brownsburg, IN

Q/SA 12.26 107.41 05/24/15 Alan Mackin - Bardstown, KY '84 Thunderbird Bowling Green, KY

As for his slow qualifying time at the Indy LODRS, he is starting with a totally original '09 Mustang GT with 281 engine and his goal is to build it into a competitive NHRA stocker. It will be interesting to watch how the car progresses from a street car to an all out Stocker and with a combo that is not a cookie cutter piece.

Jason McGinley 3383 05-08-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BBF67 (Post 502953)
Just to set the "record" straight here's ALMack's credentials. He currently holds the NHRA P/SA and Q/SA 1/4 mile records.

P/SA 12.34 105.94 10/11/15 Alan Mackin - Bardstown, KY '84 Thunderbird Brownsburg, IN

Q/SA 12.26 107.41 05/24/15 Alan Mackin - Bardstown, KY '84 Thunderbird Bowling Green, KY

As for his slow qualifying time at the Indy LODRS, he is starting with a totally original '09 Mustang GT with 281 engine and his goal is to build it into a competitive NHRA stocker. It will be interesting to watch how the car progresses from a street car to an all out Stocker and with a combo that is not a cookie cutter piece.

I agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion,we do live in America.I am also well aware of Al being the current record holder in a car he BOUGHT not BUILT himself.I'm sorry but that doesn't impress me at all.Especially in a combo as soft as the t-bird.

Jason McGinley 3383 05-08-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BBF67 (Post 502953)
Just to set the "record" straight here's ALMack's credentials. He currently holds the NHRA P/SA and Q/SA 1/4 mile records.

P/SA 12.34 105.94 10/11/15 Alan Mackin - Bardstown, KY '84 Thunderbird Brownsburg, IN

Q/SA 12.26 107.41 05/24/15 Alan Mackin - Bardstown, KY '84 Thunderbird Bowling Green, KY

As for his slow qualifying time at the Indy LODRS, he is starting with a totally original '09 Mustang GT with 281 engine and his goal is to build it into a competitive NHRA stocker. It will be interesting to watch how the car progresses from a street car to an all out Stocker and with a combo that is not a cookie cutter piece.

Instead of spending all my money on my cookie cutter Camaro maybe I should have called Marty and seen if he would have sold me his Mustang and I could set the records and be everybody's hero on here. But no on second thought I built a car to try and win The Eliminator, and that is capable of winning not a turbo Thunderbird or a U/SA 302 Ford or any other high class car that doesn't have have a snowball's chance in hell of winning an Eliminator. I'm not saying it can't be done but when was the last time a high-class car won a national event? Not trying to offend anyone either in particular just stating my opinion and some facts.

Ed Carpenter 05-08-2016 04:28 PM

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Why do people care what other racers race. Who gives a S..t Let people have fun their own way......

Jim Wahl 05-08-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502925)
I read the post just fine Dan.And as far as Al and his"pure stocker" and for that matter pure stockers,crate motors and all the other ihra classes that all run ihra"stock eliminator" frankly i think they are a joke...it should just say pro et....run what ya brung....put some letters on the window and call it what u may! I think Al was confused and thought the Indy pts meet was an ihra race! But then again their are alot of REAL racers on here I have alot of respect for and then u have the other over opinionated, no race,dreamers like you Dan and your buddy Al!

I'm thinking maybe you should rethink your statement there Jason as you are not only talking about me but about half the racers on this forum. Remember about 75% of the IHRA Stockers "of all the other IHRA classes that run IHRA "Stock Eliminator" frankly I think they are a joke." also run NHRA Stock Eliminator. Jim


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Ed Carpenter 05-08-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502937)
You saw them on a qualifying sheet at a NHRA race? I don't think so.Maybe at a IHRA race.I guess that explains it.

WTF I'm so sick of people saying ihra isn't racing. Total bulls..t! I've races against the Emmons brothers,Cummings family, Latino, Etc. You telling me these guys aren't real racers? Get a life.....

Ed Carpenter 05-08-2016 04:41 PM

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By the way call up Allen Sherman and tell him he's not a real racer for running IHRA. First off he'll out qualify your *** by a ton then spank your *** in the eliminator......lol

Jim Wahl 05-08-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 502960)
WTF I'm so sick of people saying ihra isn't racing. Total bulls..t! I've races against the Emmons brothers,Cummings family, Latino, Etc. You telling me these guys are real racers? Get a life.....

Jason, I beat Anthony Bertozzi in the final of Stock Eliminator at an IHRA D2 race last year. Go tell Anthony that IHRA racing isn't real racing. Jim


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Jason McGinley 3383 05-08-2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 502960)
WTF I'm so sick of people saying ihra isn't racing. Total bulls..t! I've races against the Emmons brothers,Cummings family, Latino, Etc. You telling me these guys are real racers? Get a life.....

I didn't say ihra wasn't racing . I was making reference to the made-up classes in their stock Eliminator to let everybody race not an NHRA legal stocker.

Jim Wahl 05-08-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502964)
I didn't say ihra wasn't racing . I was making reference to the made-up classes in their stock Eliminator to let everybody race not an NHRA legal stocker.

That's NOT what you said pal. " and for that matter pure stockers,crate motors and all the other ihra classes that all run ihra stock eliminator" frankly i think they are a joke..."

Pretty clear to me. Jim


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Jason McGinley 3383 05-08-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 502965)
That's NOT what you said pal. " and for that matter pure stockers,crate motors and all the other ihra classes that all run ihra stock eliminator" frankly i think they are a joke..."

Pretty clear to me. Jim


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I left out the word specific! All the other ihra specific classes is what I meant to say. I know there's a lot of tough Racers that run ihra as well as NHRA. No offense to any of them you included Jim.

BBF67 05-09-2016 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502956)
Instead of spending all my money on my cookie cutter Camaro maybe I should have called Marty and seen if he would have sold me his Mustang and I could set the records and be everybody's hero on here. But no on second thought I built a car to try and win The Eliminator, and that is capable of winning not a turbo Thunderbird or a U/SA 302 Ford or any other high class car that doesn't have have a snowball's chance in hell of winning an Eliminator. I'm not saying it can't be done but when was the last time a high-class car won a national event? Not trying to offend anyone either in particular just stating my opinion and some facts.

That's the spirit Jason. Who wants to hold a record anyway? Especially one that is one of those high-class cars that cannot ever win an eliminator. You better be sure that all of us will be watching in anticipation of seeing you in the winners circle at all the races you enter. Remember everyone that number is 3383 in stock eliminator. Looking forward to seeing your photo in the winners circle Jason.

james schaechter 05-09-2016 04:58 AM

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Jason good luck with the new combo in stock. I hope at least you are impressed with yourself. You seem to be all over the place here. I suggest you give some of these guys a break. I know everyone else's combo looks easier, but you really only have to work on your own. Talking on the Internet is the easy part...making your first real stocker endeavor quick and fast. That is the hard part. Recognizing others as the good people they are without bashing them might be tough on the Internet, but it is easier in person if you try.



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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502955)
I agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion,we do live in America.I am also well aware of Al being the current record holder in a car he BOUGHT not BUILT himself.I'm sorry but that doesn't impress me at all.Especially in a combo as soft as the t-bird.


Jason McGinley 3383 05-09-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 503008)
Jason good luck with the new combo in stock. I hope at least you are impressed with yourself. You seem to be all over the place here. I suggest you give some of these guys a break. I know everyone else's combo looks easier, but you really only have to work on your own. Talking on the Internet is the easy part...making your first real stocker endeavor quick and fast. That is the hard part. Recognizing others as the good people they are without bashing them might be tough on the Internet, but it is easier in person if you try.

I respect your opinion James and I will back off you are correct.

Jason McGinley 3383 05-09-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BBF67 (Post 503006)
That's the spirit Jason. Who wants to hold a record anyway? Especially one that is one of those high-class cars that cannot ever win an eliminator. You better be sure that all of us will be watching in anticipation of seeing you in the winners circle at all the races you enter. Remember everyone that number is 3383 in stock eliminator. Looking forward to seeing your photo in the winners circle Jason.

Thanks for your support,I'm going to try my hardest! Lol

Jim Wahl 05-09-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 503035)
Thanks for your support,I'm going to try my hardest! Lol

Originally Posted by BBF67 View Post
"That's the spirit Jason. Who wants to hold a record anyway? Especially one that is one of those high-class cars that cannot ever win an eliminator. You better be sure that all of us will be watching in anticipation of seeing you in the winners circle at all the races you enter. Remember everyone that number is 3383 in stock eliminator. Looking forward to seeing your photo in the winners circle Jason."

Pretty sure this was laced with a little sarcasm Jason. You pretty well insulted most of the racers here on the forum whether you know it or not. The only way I see you digging your way out of that hole is to build a car and win a few "eliminators" yourself my friend! Jim


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Jason McGinley 3383 05-09-2016 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 503058)
Originally Posted by BBF67 View Post
"That's the spirit Jason. Who wants to hold a record anyway? Especially one that is one of those high-class cars that cannot ever win an eliminator. You better be sure that all of us will be watching in anticipation of seeing you in the winners circle at all the races you enter. Remember everyone that number is 3383 in stock eliminator. Looking forward to seeing your photo in the winners circle Jason."

Pretty sure this was laced with a little sarcasm Jason. You pretty well insulted most of the racers here on the forum whether you know it or not. The only way I see you digging your way out of that hole is to build a car and win a few "eliminators" yourself my friend! Jim


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I have built a car,2001 camaro SS to run C/SA. It's not fast enough to win class but I'm going to try my hardest to win The Eliminator, the first race is going to be at the end of the month at the sports Nationals in Bowling Green. If I insulted some people on here wasn't my intention,but so is life.

Jim Wahl 05-09-2016 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 503059)
I have built a car,2001 camaro SS to run C/SA. It's not fast enough to win class but I'm going to try my hardest to win The Eliminator, the first race is going to be at the end of the month at the sports Nationals in Bowling Green. If I insulted some people on here wasn't my intention,but so is life.

I believe you mean "Such is life". You could have done without that snide comment. Jim


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fordteacherguy 05-09-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 502956)
Instead of spending all my money on my cookie cutter Camaro maybe I should have called Marty and seen if he would have sold me his Mustang and I could set the records and be everybody's hero on here. But no on second thought I built a car to try and win The Eliminator, and that is capable of winning not a turbo Thunderbird or a U/SA 302 Ford or any other high class car that doesn't have have a snowball's chance in hell of winning an Eliminator. I'm not saying it can't be done but when was the last time a high-class car won a national event? Not trying to offend anyone either in particular just stating my opinion and some facts.

You don't need to set records or go fast to win NHRA races on any level...you need to pay attention to what's going on and drive....period. As a racer of a slow P/SA stocker that is totally home built I can compete with the best of them. The beauty of this sport is once you can make the index and drive...you can take on anyone at any level and win if you know how to race. Can slow guys win? Absolutely...I runner upped last year at Seattle nationals and didn't lose because I had a slow car...it was I was on the wrong side of a great race. Yesterday another Wally on the shelf at our national open, Multiple championships and much fun! Build what you can afford, and come on out! It isn't always heads up, rarely so if you can read a ladder sheet and move a bit..just good racing......the most money doesn't always win.

rk3800 05-09-2016 08:16 PM

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What is a Chrysler Lebanon? Is that like a Chevy Kamero?

Jim Wahl 05-09-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rk3800 (Post 503063)
What is a Chrysler Lebanon? Is that like a Chevy Kamero?

It's a four door Chrysler FWD car that's made in Israel. Jim


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Mark Yacavone 05-09-2016 10:10 PM

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Those phones aren't as "smart" as you think...
And that's all I'm gonna say about this thread..
The Mighty Quinn nailed it on the first page.

Jason McGinley 3383 05-09-2016 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 503066)
It's a four door Chrysler FWD car that's made in Israel. Jim


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A 79 lebaron is a 2dr hdtp rwd car built by the same two guys that built your car.widuch and bennet.Jerry won the Nat in Atlanta in it.

Jason McGinley 3383 05-10-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 503066)
It's a four door Chrysler FWD car that's made in Israel. Jim


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A lebaron is a two-door hardtop rear wheel drive with a 360 cubic inch motor runs I,J and K.And was built by the same two guys who built your car,Widuch and Bennet.

Steve Sullivan 05-10-2016 12:30 AM

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Jason,
be careful there young man you might break your arm patting yourself on the back or beating your chest too enthusiastically. LOL The more you "crow" the nastier the taste will be when you have to eat it. Insulting people long in the tooth will win you very few of the friends you may need to further the spectacular career in stock you have laid out for yourself.

By the way if your chasing a certain slow red M/SA Mustang in a race and the driver is displaying what he thinks your IQ is, it's probably going to be me. LOL

Jason McGinley 3383 05-10-2016 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sullivan (Post 503085)
Jason,
be careful there young man you might break your arm patting yourself on the back or beating your chest too enthusiastically. LOL The more you "crow" the nastier the taste will be when you have to eat it. Insulting people long in the tooth will win you very few of the friends you may need to further the spectacular career in stock you have laid out for yourself.

By the way if your chasing a certain slow red M/SA Mustang in a race and the driver is displaying what he thinks your IQ is, it's probably going to be me. LOL

The more responses I get the more I laugh! Their are a bunch of over sensitive liberals on here.I bet you voted for Hillary didn't u Steve! LOL!!!! Or was it Bernie? U think somebody owes u something....like respect? U can insult me,I don't care! And if u don't like what I say we can discuss it face to face at bowling green BIG GUY!

Ed Fernandez 05-10-2016 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason McGinley 3383 (Post 503086)
The more responses I get the more I laugh! Their are a bunch of over sensitive liberals on here.I bet you voted for Hillary didn't u Steve! LOL!!!! Or was it Bernie? U think somebody owes u something....like respect? U can insult me,I don't care! And if u don't like what I say we can discuss it face to face at bowling green BIG GUY!

Somebody check this guy's IP. Maybe it's Ed O'brian come back to shake the trees.

Bob Don 05-10-2016 09:08 AM

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Last time I looked, you need at least 1 grade point to enter a national event so it would be tough to debut at Sportsnats.

Ed Wright 05-10-2016 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 503087)
Somebody check this guy's IP. Maybe it's Ed O'brian come back to shake the trees.

Sure sounds like him. LOL

Lenny5160 05-10-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Don (Post 503096)
Last time I looked, you need at least 1 grade point to enter a national event so it would be tough to debut at Sportsnats.

Better look again. You EARN a grade point for competing at the Sportsnats.

Kevin McKenna 05-10-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Don (Post 503096)
Last time I looked, you need at least 1 grade point to enter a national event so it would be tough to debut at Sportsnats.

You do not need a grade point to enter the JEGS SportsNationals. In fact, beginning this year with the revived Bowling Green event, I believe you actually get a grade point for attending.

barnca2010 05-10-2016 10:29 AM

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