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Jack McCarthy 06-25-2016 07:16 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
he said he could make a hemi run, the west coast and east coast guys laughed at him ... then he kicked thier asses....

ill bet he gets this thing flying too... he is smart and works his *** off > tough combination to outperform ...

and i notice he is only one out there spending HIS money... all the haters just wannabes

captain jack

bet he can make a 60 wagon run too

V M Kauffman 06-25-2016 07:31 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Charlie is fighting a up hill battle. Could be down as much as 70 hp and with a very bad car aero wise as Larry found it the body has issues. Ford will not step up and do a 2016 car which is what needs to be done even if they had someone to do it! They spent their wad on LeMans!

The Hawk 06-25-2016 09:03 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 507544)
'splain to me why session 2 6.77 don't count, Charlie qualifies with 6.8something
Stupid NHRA, I know the top 12 qualify initially, but they "throw out" early runs?

The qualifying format they have now was new news in 2008. I still don`t like it.

Frank B. 06-25-2016 09:51 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Possible bad news Charlie was charged with an oildown on his last qualifier.

JHeath 06-25-2016 10:26 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Are you sure, they were cleaning up in the other lane.

Frank B. 06-25-2016 11:24 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Left Lane: Charlie Westcott Jr. Runs 6.818/202.58, Now #15; Best prior run: 6.853/203.34, Was #15
Right Lane: Curt Steinbach Runs 6.762/204.94, Now #14; Best prior run: 7.212/188.86, Was #17

Westcott Jr. improves on his run from earlier today...Steinbach launched hard and keep it hooked up and made his quickest pass of the weekend to move up to the number four spot. Curt Steinbach's incremental times: 60ft-1.019 sec., 330ft-2.840, 660ft-4.354/162.51 mph, 1,000ft-5.661. Charlie Westcott Jr. was charged with an oildown, #1 for the season. That will cost 5. I was only posting what was reported Jerry

JHeath 06-25-2016 11:48 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by V M Kauffman (Post 507548)
Charlie is fighting a up hill battle. Could be down as much as 70 hp and with a very bad car aero wise as Larry found it the body has issues. Ford will not step up and do a 2016 car which is what needs to be done even if they had someone to do it! They spent their wad on LeMans!

Where did you see the Mustang was bad aero wise? Larry got a different front end approved, and it was the best out there.

V M Kauffman 06-26-2016 08:47 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHeath (Post 507568)
Where did you see the Mustang was bad aero wise? Larry got a different front end approved, and it was the best out there.

Areo just doesn't mean a new front end! It's all about aero balance. Low drag with the down force you need to keep the car hooked. Who stated it was the best car out there? Unless you ran all three in tha same wind tunnel on the same day no one can say one is better than the other.

Randall Klein 06-26-2016 09:35 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
I thought they would look better without the huge hood scoops, guess not in my opinion....yuck

As far as throwing out the non qualified ET's, I guess I never saw slower times in the "good session", although I don't really watch it that closely

Bill Diehl 06-26-2016 10:17 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
After its all said and done ,the 77 would have kept him in the number 16 spot anyway...but, I am not a fan of the 12 format either...maybe when there was 30 to 40 cars trying for a spot I get it..... but now :confused:

larrylomascolo 06-26-2016 10:09 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
This class is becoming the Line and Anderson show,same 2 cars in the finals every event,do you think thats good for the fans same 2 cars,Its a f,n JOKE,put the carbs and scoop back on ,you think the way it is fans are liking it ,,,,,not

Alan Roehrich 06-26-2016 10:55 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 507590)
I thought they would look better without the huge hood scoops, guess not in my opinion....yuck

As far as throwing out the non qualified ET's, I guess I never saw slower times in the "good session", although I don't really watch it that closely


Just looks like the whole front end is as tall as an 8" cowl hood. The cars really look stupid now, at least to me.

So much for the changes breathing new life into Pro Stock. At this rate, it will be on life support by season's end. Used to be the best class in drag racing, what many sportsman class racers dreamed of, the "big league".

Ed Fernandez 06-27-2016 12:31 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Yeah let's have some drag racing welfare, some sharing of the wealth. I have no love for Anderson and co. but they're getting it done. Either they have it figured out or they're cheating their asses off. I think they're just ahead of the curve.

larrylomascolo 06-27-2016 07:34 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Im a S/SS person who loves the performance made up of these cars,pro stock was the next step one time when the cars were real production cars made to go fast in sheet metal,that was the draw they were REAL CARS

Frank Castros 06-27-2016 08:26 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
I have been told the Summit team made 700 pulls on the dyno last winter.

Also, the Camaro seems to have superior areo over the Dart and Mustang.

Pro Stock really sucks right now and needs to be reviewed by the NHRA.

Mike Pearson 06-27-2016 08:36 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Congrats to Charlie for making the field at the first 2 national events that he has entered. He is not the fastest but was not the slowest either. He is a popular underdog. Hopefully he got some good data from that two races he has been to so he can improve.

jims5600 06-27-2016 09:17 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Couldn't agree more with you Mike.
Jimmy

novassdude 06-27-2016 09:55 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larrylomascolo (Post 507664)
This class is becoming the Line and Anderson show,same 2 cars in the finals every event,do you think thats good for the fans same 2 cars,Its a f,n JOKE,put the carbs and scoop back on ,you think the way it is fans are liking it ,,,,,not

So are Jason and Greg supposed to slow down and let others win? As a huge Jason Line fan I am enjoying the prostock races this year.

SSGT Mustang 06-27-2016 12:00 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 507674)
Yeah let's have some drag racing welfare, some sharing of the wealth. I have no love for Anderson and co. but they're getting it done. Either they have it figured out or they're cheating their asses off. I think they're just ahead of the curve.

Exactly. The Summit team needs to give their "fair share." Time for NHRA to tax them for working hard and enjoying their success.

I'm going to go now and stomp my feet and repeat over and over...."it's not fair, it's not fair".....

Paul Precht 06-27-2016 12:10 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang (Post 507707)
Exactly. The Summit team needs to give their "fair share." Time for NHRA to tax them for working hard and enjoying their success.

I'm going to go now and stomp my feet and repeat over and over...."it's not fair, it's not fair".....

That's what happened with the Hemi in Pro Stock back in the beginning as well as NASCAR

Ed Wright 06-27-2016 01:08 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 507708)
That's what happened with the Hemi in Pro Stock back in the beginning as well as NASCAR

Jmho, but MOPAR needs to get their heads out of their rears, and make a decent cylinder head casting, instead of more of that outdated hemi crap. If they don't flow like the GM heads (I'm told they do not), they won't run like the GM cars. Give their loyal MOPAR racers a break. Several years ago, I over heard, probably the top cylinder head guy in the U.S. at the time, tell one of his customers I'm well aquainted with, that he used the same CNC program to port both Dodge and Chevy Pro Stock heads. They also ran very close numbers back then. It's not the EFI holding the Dodges back. Sure have to hand it to Anderson & Line for their hard work. It certainly shows right now. Guys that work harder and smarter go faster.

Ron Ortiz 06-27-2016 02:04 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
The Anderson & Line Show......I like Jason, he watches Stock and will talk to you.
The Erica Elite Show...........Killer lights.
The Jeggie Show...........Great sportsman.
The Wayne County Show......?????
The WJ Show......he hardly ever smiles.
The Bob Glidden Masterpiece Show........hard knuckles.
The Bill Jenkins Show.........a Vega.

But not as dominant as the John Force Regime

And the current series of The Hines/Hines/Hines/ Kraweic Show.

But the best is the Frank Manzo Performance Show.

I watched Charlie Westcott just blow everybody away at the first Cajun Sportsnational in a Mopar with a huge Bowtie decal on his dash for the TV cameras. I think he will do just fine.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA the show must go on.

Ed Wright 06-27-2016 02:57 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 507723)
But the best is the Frank Manzo Performance Show.

I watched Charlie Westcott just blow everybody away at the first Cajun Sportsnational in a Mopar with a huge Bowtie decal on his dash for the TV cameras. I think he will do just fine.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA the show must go on.

I remember the Bowtie. LOL
Always impressed with that guy.

killer1 06-28-2016 02:37 AM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Charlie is a hard worker and a class act he will get it done !!!!!!!!!!

Mile High 06-28-2016 01:00 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 507727)
I remember the Bowtie. LOL
Always impressed with that guy.

Maybe he needs a bowtie on the roof of the Mustang. LOL! Not under the hood.

Jeff

jackarnew 06-28-2016 03:53 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High (Post 507851)
Maybe he needs a bowtie on the roof of the Mustang. LOL! Not under the hood.

Jeff

Some say Charlie is a little out spoken. Don't know never met or talked to him but seems to me only problem is for others in the class he wants to runs as like Jason he can always in time make his car as quick as or faster than the comp. No body yet has been able to put the blue oval in the P/S winners circle that I know of but if it is possible I think he will get it there and that's with almost no help if any from FORD

HOPE IN TIME HE WILL DO IT! WOULD LOVE TO SEE A FORD TAKE A WALLY just to make the class a little more interesting to watch cause right now it ain't so

joespanova 06-29-2016 02:18 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
I didn't want to inject anymore "spew" into this thread BUT........And I see Wescott reads these posts............if Ford has such little interest in Pro Stock.....read that ZERO , why give them the satisfaction of "showcasing" their product?
And from a Chrysler guy.........why not just stick with a Dodge?

RJDUDEK 06-29-2016 02:19 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by V M Kauffman (Post 507548)
Charlie is fighting a up hill battle. Could be down as much as 70 hp and with a very bad car aero wise as Larry found it the body has issues. Ford will not step up and do a 2016 car which is what needs to be done even if they had someone to do it! They spent their wad on LeMans!


..Or a 4 dr Maverick? ... A Ford Fairmount ... ?

:)

SSDiv6 06-29-2016 02:58 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 507927)
I didn't want to inject anymore "spew" into this thread BUT........And I see Wescott reads these posts............if Ford has such little interest in Pro Stock.....read that ZERO , why give them the satisfaction of "showcasing" their product?
And from a Chrysler guy.........why not just stick with a Dodge?

Because he has always been an innovator and enjoys the challenge.

SSGT Mustang 06-29-2016 03:23 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 507929)
Because he has always been an innovator and enjoys the challenge.

Also, from what I have read, Chrysler did nothing but try to sell him parts for a ridiculous amount of money when he asked about going pro stock racing. Nice payback for all the time, effort and money he put into dominating the hemi challenge, and making the whole program a lot more competitive.

Ford, on the other hand, sold him a bunch of bare heads and blocks at a significant discount, as they were going to be scrapped after their decision to drop out of NHRA drag racing.

joespanova 06-29-2016 05:25 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 507929)
Because he has always been an innovator and enjoys the challenge.

More of the Wescott fan club ............has spoken.
Obviously , he has a passion for drag racing , just like the rest of us.
The Hemi challenge was a completely different dynamic.
The "Pro Stock" challenge , my guess , is going to prove to be extremely taxing for an individual .
No doubt , there was little place else to go after the Hemi stuff.

Superfan1 06-29-2016 06:46 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 507946)
More of the Wescott fan club ............has spoken.
Obviously , he has a passion for drag racing , just like the rest of us.
The Hemi challenge was a completely different dynamic.
The "Pro Stock" challenge , my guess , is going to prove to be extremely taxing for an individual .
No doubt , there was little place else to go after the Hemi stuff.

Charlie is an innovator who makes most of his parts; and he is a relentless worker who will not be afraid of, or back down from, the challenge that he faces.

SSGT Mustang 06-29-2016 07:49 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 507946)
More of the Wescott fan club ............has spoken.
Obviously , he has a passion for drag racing , just like the rest of us.
The Hemi challenge was a completely different dynamic.
The "Pro Stock" challenge , my guess , is going to prove to be extremely taxing for an individual .
No doubt , there was little place else to go after the Hemi stuff.

Westcott should have cleared it with you before going into pro stock. He should have known that you would think he was wasting his time, especially after not winning an event by his second time out. What a failure.

Yeah, I'm sure he'll hang his head in defeat for not seeking your approval first and relying on your powerful psychic ability to predict his success. He must have been avoiding you, knowing that you would have bad news for him.

I'm sure he, and all of us rooting for him, will be disappointed when he is forced to throw in the towel after hearing about your expert and professional opinion.

Thanks for letting us know.

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 06-29-2016 08:14 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Commitment to a Challenge with Confidence, Ability and Determination make Charlie Wescott Jr. a Winner. MB.

joespanova 06-29-2016 08:30 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang (Post 507961)
Westcott should have cleared it with you before going into pro stock. He should have known that you would think he was wasting his time, especially after not winning an event by his second time out. What a failure.

Yeah, I'm sure he'll hang his head in defeat for not seeking your approval first and relying on your powerful psychic ability to predict his success. He must have been avoiding you, knowing that you would have bad news for him.

I'm sure he, and all of us rooting for him, will be disappointed when he is forced to throw in the towel after hearing about your expert and professional opinion.

Thanks for letting us know.

You're an *******.
If he has something to say he can speak on his own behalf.
I'm sure he sits back and "gloats" reading these comments from his small army of nutswingers.
Get off my back.

SSGT Mustang 06-29-2016 08:39 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 507963)
You're an azzhole.
If he has something to say he can speak on his own behalf.
I'm sure he sits back and "gloats" reading these comments from his small army of nutswingers.
Get off my back.

The funny thing about your post is that if you turn most of your comments around and direct them at you, they fit to a tee.

Here goes:

"You're an *******." ✔

"If he has something to say he can speak on his own behalf." ✔

"I'm sure he sits back and "gloats" reading these comments from his small army of jelous naysayers." ✔ (with minor modifications)

SSDiv6 06-29-2016 11:49 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 507946)
More of the Wescott fan club ............has spoken.
Obviously , he has a passion for drag racing , just like the rest of us.
The Hemi challenge was a completely different dynamic.
The "Pro Stock" challenge , my guess , is going to prove to be extremely taxing for an individual .
No doubt , there was little place else to go after the Hemi stuff.

Not a member of the Westcott fan club.
The man deserves respect for what he is doing.
He knows the challenge ahead and was not afraid to undertake it even with the odds are against him.
Again, he is doing it because he loves challenges. Going 6.77 on his second race is not shabby to me when compared to the other teams.
By the way, there are many NHRA approved parts for Stock and Super Stock that are made by Charlie like pistons under Militia Products.

As a matter of fact, I know of some very fast cars that run his camshafts although they display a different make decal on their cars.

joespanova 06-30-2016 12:09 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
For those of you who don't understand..........let me be a little more clear.
I don't care about WHAT Wescott has achieved , where he's been or where he's going..........and I sure as **** never said anything contradictory /derogatory about WHAT he can or can't do.
I stated that he has a hell of a battle ahead , that's it and all you "fans" jump on me and give me *****.
Go find something else to do and get off my ***.

340Cuda 06-30-2016 02:29 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
Pleased to see this photo posted by Ford Performance on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/FordPerform...type=3&theater

Charlie A 06-30-2016 03:18 PM

Re: Charlie Wescott Jr
 
From one Charlie to another:


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1465436346


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