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When I first started doing this, they took a 64 car field that was qualified. 75 or 80 stockers sometimes showed up to Winternationals.I'm afraid that could turn Pomona into a little Indy if we went back to something like that.

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Get ready for next year. Rumor has it. 55 car fields in stock and SS. Better start going to more divisionals

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Question ,if you go to a div race pay your $$ fill out a tech card go threw tech, sign your tech card along with the tech guy then brake on you way to staging. does this mean you would get a grade point, or do you have to stage, weight and fuel check, this would be in stock super stock. Now if you where in the super class do you have race first round to get you grade point. My point is that back in the day at the nat opens you could pay fill out a tech card using somebody else car and be on your merry way with a grade point in hand. Tom

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Tom ;The below comment is on NHRA web site .


"Drivers receive one (1) grade point for participating in a Divisional NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event or National Open event (must pass technical inspection). "

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Lot of precedent for folks renting a minivan that's in the guide, passing tech to get their grade point. Avis rent-a-racer....cheaper getting to the track too.

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Mini van would work for stock, but don't you have to have the grade point in the the class you what to run in. Say super stock would have meet those safety requirements? Also how did some of the pro racers get to run some nat events without a grade point? Can someone else get your car teched in for you if they have your membership and number card if you are going to show up late? Tom

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Tom the below quote is from nhra

"A Professional driver earning Top 20 status in the current or previous season will be guaranteed a Sportsman entry to any National Event. "

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Your money, your choice, hope you enjoy.

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Its your money use it when you need it JG wentworth whaley

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If car counts are going to be lowered, maybe NHRA should qualify 32 car fields, but allow 55 entries. Bring back performance to a performance based category!

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If I was as rich as Mickey I would go every weekend!

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Unlimited entry, 75 run.

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75 is too high. 64.

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No singles with 64, I want to see folks play the ladder within a performance based field.

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The more the quotas are lowered the higher the entry cost and the lower the purse ???

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With that line of thinking you could be a new hire in Glendora.

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I don't have any influence at Glendora just logical thinking as a businessman not rocket science .lol

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I agree with Charley. I've went to divisionals 4-5 hours away with a $500 budget...

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I would just hate driving over those bridges

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Kinda looks like any one who entered a Pro category this year is in the top twenty!

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Mike gets it....a good laugh for today.....

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i was alluding to the illogical thinking from Glendora. Why do they treat the racers like this? Strange days have found us.

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What is amazing is the huge amount of Top Fuel Dragster, Fuel Funny Car, Pro Stock Motorcycle, Top Alcohol Dragster and Top Alcohol Funny car entered This alone increased the entry fees ??? I did not know there were that many cars in those classes around so right now there is around 550 cars entered at The Vegas national event i find this very interesting ,I wish there was more room for a few more Super Stockers <Me lol:D

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If true that's phucking stupid (sorry Ken) that's the dumbest f'ning thing Nhra could do to date. Who comes up with this stupid s...

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As an outsider, but a life long fan of Stock and SS, I would think a 64 field would make sense. 65 cars and there will be a lot of bye runs, less some bye runs.

I guess that John Force needs space for all his rigs. I think we counted eight rigs for his teams at Ennis.

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My guess, if they do in fact limit the field to 55, is to keep the race to 6 rounds. A 55 quota allows up to 9 past champions, gold card holders etc. to enter and keep the race to 6 rounds.

Personally, I'm not against the quotas if it helps get races completed in a timely manner! It's not ideal to run first round and then sit around all day wondering when/if second round is going to happen.

I was in Vegas last year. After first round, we sat all day waiting for second round and then eventually it got moved to the next day. Then, we wait all day Saturday to run third and fourth rounds at the end in a rush because everyone is ready to go home! If limited quotas help run the race in a timely, more efficient manner then it could be a win for the racer and track personnel who seem to work 12-16 hour days at most races!

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And, if you are the current 1/4 mile National record holder ( in the class you enter in ), be counted as an additional grade point !!!

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That would sure limit national Event entries. If you can't run .8 under why even go? So only the fast (high dollar) cars would get to compete (or even enter), no room for the little guy/ low buck racer. Grade points would become irrelevant as many racers that are slower than .6 under would not want to enter a national event, and therefore would not even bother to get grade points.

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I understand the other side of the fence. Hence my statement of "performance" category. Maybe more vendors would participate in contingency if more cars had to be faster to race for the "bigger" money with NHRA? Don't know until its tried. If categories are going to be limited to such low numbers, why not make it about performance again, and make it more fun?

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I agree. If I could not run .8 under, I wouldn't feel like I was fast enough to run a national event. "Back in the day" we ran off national records. Didn't see slower cars at national events. Most went bracket racing when that stuff came along. Now they have us all bracket racing off these ridiculous soft indexes. We ran off the records, no dialing. We could run one tenth under, eleven under you break out. Around here, there was almost zero break outs. Only if we traveled to one coast or the other. Being fast meant something then. The Good Old Days. :-)
I like Sean's idea.

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I remember how I felt last year when I couldn't race the Winternational's because I had a grade three, and just missed out on it....I wasn't happy! However, I was bound and determined to make certain I wasn't denied entering that race this year, so I did two things and I believe Charlie touched on this one: I participated in five D7 pts races last year, so as to build my grade point count up, and most importantly (as I think Charlie also mentioned), I made a mental note of the very first day (Christmas Eve 2015), that grade 5's could enter the Winternationals, and when I entered, there was less than 10 (possibly less than 5) entered, so I made damn sure I wasn't going to miss it this year, and I did that for the Phoenix and Denver events I entered. Having a grade 5 was the main thing, but entering A.S.A.P. on the first available day with those grade points matters too.....If I recall correctly grade 4's and even some grade 3's made the Winternats this year....I will do my best to not have less than a grade 5 from now on, and that's the primary reason I moved from Colorado, to Arizona....I'm closer to more tracks, and can now run more points races for also around $500 bucks! :)

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Charlie the only people who'll get to count the 'Vegas points meet next Wednesday will be those who entered the April "rained out" 'Vegas race, that didn't back out when the race was postponed.

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There would sure be a whole bunch of 2V 302 FFFFords being built then! Probably be half of the field.

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I'm good with that Billy.....lol :)

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Billy there's something Sean forgot tell you about the new 32 car fields for 2017.
Stock Eli will now only be 1990 and newer cars only. SS will stay 1955 and newer.
Good luck to all.

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With a 32 car field, the AHFS might actually work.

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It would make it more effective, that's for sure.

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That's called a Qualified Field like it was 30 years ago. Nothing new there.

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Boy, that would sure kill the fields at points meets, wouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour
I understand the other side of the fence. Hence my statement of "performance" category. Maybe more vendors would participate in contingency if more cars had to be faster to race for the "bigger" money with NHRA? Don't know until its tried. If categories are going to be limited to such low numbers, why not make it about performance again, and make it more fun?

Sean you said PERFORMANCE and FUN in the same sentence, WHERE IS THE LIKE BUTTON!