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It was and it should be gone.

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D-Darts had factory modified (intake openings bored out to accept Holley) standard 273 intakes. AND adapter plates.

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I have found the early 64-66 blocks are better, i have a 65 block in my car, with some fill, all good so far, and i am just using the hooker headers for now, until i have Performance Welding build me a set someday.

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what size headers are you using?

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The D-Dart intake manifold, P/N 2536771, is identical to the 318 marine engine intake.
It's a single plane cast iron intake with an adapter for the Holley carburetor.

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hi, just curious, I seen marine intake for 318, casting number is2846707. the carb flange is angled quite a bit from level, thanks

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The ones I've seen had angled spacers under carb, dad had two 400s with them. First boat had a ford 351 engine, angled spacer under carb.

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771 is also listed as 66 California.

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The LD4B Edelbrock intake was approved as a replacement for the 273 due to the fact it was available with a Chrysler part number. The same rationale used on the 440 Chrysler 6-Pack engine with the Edelbrock intake. The 6-Pack intake was available in both aluminum and cast iron.

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Looks like it would flow better than that boat anchor.

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And using that rationale, the 283s and 327s should have the Z-28 intake and the AMCs should have all of the group 19 stuff back.
Come on out and race the new and improved Stock Eliminator! The same as ET-2 only more expensive and with a lower purse!

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There are already 283 engines running the approved 327 intake.
The AMC Group 19 intake and carburetor was removed because of your diligence with NHRA. You should have probably done the same with all the other bogus that has been running out there for many years.

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1 5/8, to a 2 1/2 collector, i going to install a different collector next year.

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I agree, the 283 should NOT have a 327 intake on it. BUT, at least it's an iron dual-plane intake replacing another iron dual-plane intake not an aluminum high-rise dual-plane replacing an iron low-rise (at best!) single-plane intake.

I absolutely wish that I could. I won't live long enough! Wouldn't it be nice if NHRA set aside a date like January 1 2018 and "reset" all of the f**kups.

Care to start a separate thread pointing them all out?

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Billy,
Please do, you're the man for the job.

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the amc r4b had the amc part number as well,, am 4485729,,

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Awesome idea billy, starting Jan 1 let's get all the bogus welfare off the cars and back home on the shelves where they belong.The cowl hood on 69 camaros.Looks as though NHRA took the initiative to correct this one, I just wonder why they stopped with the chevys and didn't correct the chryslers.

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What hoods on Chrysler? Or correct what?

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I'm just guessing but I think maybe the Camaro racers took it upon themselves to start using that hood and the Chrysler racers have the factory's books to back them.

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You would have to set the date a lot further out than that. The issues that would have to be resolved span generations and multiple layers of egos and facts. The first issue is who makes the final decision? (No offense, Billy, but I'm not sure I would want you to be that person. You have a GM mind.) At this point, most of the errors and falsehoods have been absorbed into the system and adjusted for so that racing is reasonably stable. But, I'm still waiting for someone to build a 1970 Monte Carlo convertible.


As a well-known NHRA tech personality once told me, "If it is in the NHRA books it is legal whether it is right or not."

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Paul, one thing that I have found about Chrysler Racers is that the "factory" books generally say what ever the Racers want them to say. When I go looking for the reality of it all, I go to the collectors and restorers. Cars worth hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars on the auction block aren't pieced together with a Racers hearsay.

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I told James to post on here about the car he wanted to build. Certain people have turned this post into something else. I think if someone new wants to get involved in class racing they should be encouraged not deluged with all the BS that this has turned into. I for one am thankful he is not a sheep and building another Camaro.

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and you're absolutely right. I would never want to discourage anyone building whatever it is that they want to build (especially a Stocker!). Good luck with your build Mr. Miller and have fun with it!

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Absolutely correct Rod, I am guilty as charged....and I am going to flog Billy Nees next time I see him....

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Hey dog not sure what MR. D.C. is referring to? But fact is in 1966 MOTHER MOPAR had NO fresh air on anything, no books required!!! NONE!!! but they're out there.

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I can appreciate Mr. Nees appreciation for keeping Stock pure, but I think the horses knocked down the barn and burnt it to the ground. All the Edelbrock heads and whatever else that has been approved, but on the other hand I can sympathize with someone running an old combo like a MW Mopar and trying to find good old heads and crossram, or even worse aluminum body panels. I'm sure a lot of racers with other brands have the same problems.

We did get a bit off track from my original request for suggestions. I've talked to Paul Wong a bit and got some good advice from him and others. I'm not out to set records or whatever. I am having trouble throttling my engine builder back as his thing is Full Tilt Boogie Engines. I don't want to pour that much money into the project.

Thanks for everyone's input and info. I didn't think I'd hardly get a post on here and the thread sort of had a life of it's own. I didn't know there were so many (less than 10 really, but that's still a lot for a 273 Mopar) people interested in this combo.

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I'm pretty sure you're right about that, I can't remember seeing anything at that time. What car are they using the fresh air on? Very few models had scoops thru those years 62-69, only Max Wedge, Hemi or 440-6. 70 up there where a lot. Almost forgot, air grabber on the RR-Super Bee. How could they get that allowed? Ask the old guys, they know. That's why I like the Stockers, right off the show room look. Makes me feel like I'm back in those days again.