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Bill, your last statement sums it up. This is not racing. However in the process of clarity, the Challengers have the same front end. Any car with an IRS is allowed a straight axle and the attachment points are specified by NHRA. All the Vettes have them, the Dodges and 04 ish GTO's; with the LS!, all come to mind and there are more. If it was all Chevrolet cars, there would be no problem. Kevin is going into the seimi's today in Houston in two of them. Wait till the Hellcat (actually in process now) and the Demon (planned) get here.

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Jeff, did you have to change your non vin. pink car rear end? 9in. ford or Chrysler when NHRA. approved the rear end set up 4 bar, Per Joesph Teuton.

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Just because it's allowed doesn't it fair But rules is rules
NHRA has turned car classification into a political spin zone
The pen is mightier than the sword Paper cars rule
Good luck today Kevin

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Jeff you are correct. I do think the older vettes are still a little more restricted than the leeway that has been given to the newer cars (all the newer cars)

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Tom not sure what your getting at here. The pink car has the rear end that was approved by NHRA. I believe it's been stated that all IRS cars were allowed a straight axle.

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No one questioned whether or not straight rear conversions were allowed.
Sound like a lawyer wrote this one .

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Mark I'm sure NHRA had their lawyers look over it before they made it official! Lol!

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Joesph, factory drag pack race cars can use 9 in. ford rear, normal stock cars have to run corp. rear end. Dana or 8 3/4.

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I guess I have a lot to learn here because I don't understand where the misunderstanding is. It's a factory car available to anyone that has a straight axle swapped into it just like any other IRS car running stock.

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I'm sure.
But I don't think you answered Tom's question, so I'll ask my own.
Do your Stockers have an 8 and 3/4 or a Dana center section?

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Guys why are y'all beating a dead horse? I believe we all have copies of the rule books. If y'all minds are that needing to know look it up! Look up what rear ends are legal for showroom production cars. Y'all both know the answer to yalls question. I agree that the new cars need their own classes but if NHRA is allowing them to run in stock eliminator and we happen to have cars that fit then why not run them? This goes back to find what combo you want to run and run it. Y'all crack me up with this rear end thing when there are soooo many other issues that need to be addressed. And like Mr. Larry said our car was out ran by an older combination so maybe get off the key boards and get to work. David has already beat Goliath

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Joseph, I guess NHRA should change the rear end section in the rule book for Drag Pack cars changed over to regular stock.

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I guess Tom! What's that old saying...Can't please everyone!

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Short Version: This car was vetted to death two years ago in Indy. Including parking a driver next to it. No issues whatsoever. Been running it since. Closed. Now I'm going watch it win Stock Eliminator in Houston I Hope. Any more info needed, try NHRA.

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I honestly didn't know that you could use a 9" Ford rear in any make of Stocker, 2008 and newer. Someone just directed me to the rule amendment.
Doesn't surprise me. Nothing does anymore.
I wonder why they chose 2008?. If they went back to 2004, they could have included the GTO, and a few more Corvettes.
Anyone care to speculate?

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Tell Kevin good luck!

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Let's be proactive and include the new Copo Camaros, and Ford Cobra Jets, that will be converted to traditional stockers in the near future!.. Y'all gotta understand this isn't a dead horse, it's a newborne colt, that is about to be let outta of the barn.
I'll bet that Yo Ken and John Shaul haven't forgot nearly / getting thrown out for having the wrong 9" Ford rear end in his Ford and The wrong Mopar Rear end in his Mopar. Just saying...........

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That's right,Jim.
Fair is fair. Right is right..Same rules for everyone.
I get enough politics on Facebook.

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I had to look for it and read it myself.
Page 10 of the Feb 2017 amendments

http://promod.nhra.com/Userfiles/Fil...s%202-6-17.pdf

Copy:

Swing axle differential may be replaced with conventional housing; 9-inch
housing permitted in 2008 and newer vehicles; stock trailing arms must be
retained, may be beefed up and adapted to housing, must retain transverse
spring. Must install Panhard bar. Frame may be notched for driveshaft clearance.
Distance between OEM backing plates and OEM wheelbase must be
maintained. Coil-over shock or four-link adaptations prohibited. See General Regulations 2:11.

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Shouldn't it have to weigh the stock 4300lb + shipping weight minus the amount allowable to any other car? Is a Ford guy allowed to run a 71 Torino Squire wagon 429 SCJ (lighter car than a new Challenger when both are stock!) at 3600lbs too? And the 392 is rated at 485 net HP when in the showroom at dealerships. Most net ratings are increased to be NHRA HP... for example the 302 2V Mavericks and Mustangs II, the 305 Chevy, even 360 Mopars.

Maybe we can petition NHRA to allow the blown Copo / Jet / Paks into SS/A & B to chase the cool old musclecars out of those classes too?

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Jim, I have a nice Dana out of DP, and I will swap it to you for your 9" in your car. Too much Royal Crown for you.

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Jeff, my old school junk still has a dana in it . Now about that Crown ...lol.

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How can there be a "wrong" mopar rear in a mopar ??? isn't any corporate rear end ok ?

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Because it's not legal to use an Alum center section in the old cars. That's reserved for the new cars with Ford Rear Ends, or the New Chrysler 8 and 4 quarter Rear Ends.

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Right, I'd forgot about that. Certainly makes sense...........not.

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Just wondering if they get to run an Aluminum Center Section like the FS cars do?
There was an issue about the Aluminum Center Section being run in the "Traditional" Ford Stockers that had a Ford part number on it and was clearly available from Ford Parts Departments. It had a Strange tag on it.

Was explained to me by Bruce that only the 2008 FS cars got to do that (CJ's COPO's Pak's) and that was the reason "Traditional" Ford Stockers were not allowed the Ford Aluminum center section. I still have the Ford Racing parts catalog with it listed.

Like I said....just wondering?

RJ