Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 561486)

Mark for 30 plus years NHRA official's would tear down the winner and runner up at each race. So theirs tons of time after the race to teardown cars if time/man power during the race is a issue. Mark I do agree there are quite a few tech guys at the div level that bust there butts all weekend long.

Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 561497)

Im not denying this but it totally makes no sense. Unless maybe the final was a heads up? Or if 1 or both cars went really fast? Why would you tear somebody down for being a good driver? Or knowing how to dial their car?

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 561500)

J Allen you better get to work, Hp was increased 116 to 599. I am sure its lack of proof reading. All in all some outstanding performance by all purchasing lead today!

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 561486)

Mark for 30 plus years NHRA official's would tear down the winner and runner up at each race. So theirs tons of time after the race to teardown cars if time/man power during the race is a issue. Mark I do agree there are quite a few tech guys at the div level that bust there butts all weekend long.

Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 561497)

Im not denying this but it totally makes no sense. Unless maybe the final was a heads up? Or if 1 or both cars went really fast? Why would you tear somebody down for being a good driver? Or knowing how to dial their car?

Originally Posted by Mark Callanan (Post 561507)

Charlie
Making nasty comments about our division one officials isn't the issue here
I agree with with some of your thoughts but dont attack a great bunch of guys who work for little money and work very hard
I say we support them and thanks them for what they do

Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 561510)

I'm sorry I don't get it.....because you made it to the final, there's a better chance your not legal? as opposed to somebody who lost first round?

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 561512)

Why don't we start off by assuming that everyone will pass? Wouldn't it be better to tear down the guy that is getting paid over some guy that is already pissed because he is out?

I am fine with random after the last qualifying run.

Heck I am fine with tearing one down after the first round bye..........

(I also think they could have torn Allen down to the bare block and he would have passed!!)

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman (Post 561401)

I wasn’t “trying” to get HP on the combination. I had it weighted down, timing out and other measures trying to run about 1.05-1.10 under, yes I did intend to be number one qualifier because it’s good for business. This was the 9th run ever on the car and it’s been giving us fits. It left extremely lazy and I figured no way it was going fast enough to worry. Unfortunately or fortunately, it seems maybe we fixed the problem we were having in the car and it went faster than I thought. The combination has TONS of untapped potential left so from my standpoint I’m not upset about it because I know we have more left in it, I didn’t intend to ruin it for others or anything like that, but sometimes it happens. Considering it’s been hit with 33hp before I ever touched it I’m definitely not the first one to hit it...lol

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach (Post 561537)

I guess if the 'tune up' was this lame then maybe this combo can stand an additional 25 HP on top of the HP added by the 1.20 under.

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman (Post 561520)

FWIW I’m 110% in agreement with tear downs after a 1.20 or more under run as well as after a win or runner up. That’s what makes stock and super stock racing different than just a bracket race. I take great pride in being able to go fast and be within the rules, so I’m all for making sure all the things we do are done legitimately.

Originally Posted by PLankford (Post 561564)

Well, it looks like you are off the hook... Apparently the horsepower increase came from “Virginia” ;)

Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 561522)

So not being a wise *** here, just asking a question. So what if we get beat semi final round. The person that's beats us gets torn down after the final and is not legal...are we back in?

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman (Post 561565)

Phil they also added 116hp instead of 16...lol

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 561570)

Allen, how about you building me a 273 2bbl that will out run them Fords. You think you're getting heat from a few people now, you'd drive everybody crazy with a fast 273. Just think, unlimited potential, no other class to fall into, spaces for lead everywhere, able to get aftermarket pieces approved due to limited parts availability, newer tech people not knowing what a 273 is, having all the tools you need in a small tool box, and best of all, plenty of room to lay down in the backseat for a nap while waiting for tear down inspectors to return from their other track duties.

Congratulations on your performance. Run with the big dogs or stay on the porch.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA the wagon weigh 3690#

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift (Post 561582)

"I guess if the 'tune up' was this lame then maybe this combo can stand an additional 25 HP on top of the HP added by the 1.20 under."


Absolutely accurate in your assessment. Factor the combination properly.

Originally Posted by Brett C (Post 561593)

FS/C is 7.0 lbs per HP....16 HP x 7.0 = 112 lbs

Originally Posted by Dave Crysler (Post 561633)

thanks for that Ross