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BKSG1198 08-31-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 63corvette (Post 596120)
Tony, we all play by the rules NHRA gives us or at least most of us do.
A few years ago the SST, SG, and SC guys and gals were given a vote chance to lower the index's by a half or a full second for all classes. It was voted down by the majority mostly due to so many not being able to compete at the faster index or due to the cost to the racers to go that much faster.
My SG car can go the full second faster so it was ok with me however, I understand others issue's by voting it down.
Should the delay boxes be outlawed by the rules that will be fine with me. It is a easy change for me. I can adapt. Just give me the rules and I can play by them.
I did not complain and that is basically the same issue I hate to see. People on here trashing a class just because they do not run that class.
I watch and support all the class's and have race friends in all class's up to and including a few in the Pro class's
If we do not support all the sportsman class's as a whole we may not like the final outcome.
The Sportsmen class's are just filler the Pro's are the show and most of know that.
Some on here just do not get it and think of themselves and live in there own bubble.
The Pro's are currently running here at Indy so I am off to watch some of it.
End of second rant.
Rick Cates

Rick,
Wish I knew you were here, I’d come over and BS with ya.

Floyd Staggs 08-31-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenney Kelley (Post 596129)
Floyd my Brother-in-law had the same set up as you had and he was runner up at the Gatornationals the first time they had S/C there.
Kenney Kelley

Basically the same system today. Slightly larger engine, still a Brogie roadster, run 8.60 index in NE2 Heritage series. Still use a bolt.
https://i.imgur.com/CWf3zMV.jpg

63corvette 08-31-2019 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 596145)
Rick,
Wish I knew you were here, I’d come over and BS with ya.

We are still here and will be until probably Tuesday when we leave for Earlville.
We are parked about 3 rows south of gate 8 on the east side 3 trailers to the inside.
Look for a white trailer with Texas tags. Lots of white trailers just not many with Texas tags.
Rick Cates

BKSG1198 09-01-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 63corvette (Post 596191)
We are still here and will be until probably Tuesday when we leave for Earlville.
We are parked about 3 rows south of gate 8 on the east side 3 trailers to the inside.
Look for a white trailer with Texas tags. Lots of white trailers just not many with Texas tags.
Rick Cates

Sorry Rick,
Rolled out last night to beat the traffic home since we live near the shore and this being a holiday. Hopefully see ya next year...we’ll, that’s if the .90 cars are allowed at Indy since it seems like we’re a headache to other classes.

Keith 944 09-03-2019 09:21 AM

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How did a thread on parking turn into this??????
anyway, Rick your post on looking for the white trailer reminded me of a joke I played at Atco.
I called a pizza delivery joint and told them to come in track and look for the white trailer.
I got a cold pizza but It was worth it. ��

Fireofficer5 09-03-2019 09:33 AM

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looking for a white trailer in the pits is like looking for black luggage on the carousel.

BKSG1198 09-03-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith 944 (Post 596483)
How did a thread on parking turn into this??????
anyway, Rick your post on looking for the white trailer reminded me of a joke I played at Atco.
I called a pizza delivery joint and told them to come in track and look for the white trailer.
I got a cold pizza but It was worth it. ��

I said the same thing Keith but, I erased my post about 3 times before hitting submit to the thread. That’s the reason nobody will ever stand up and do something about how people are treated, they’re too busy bashing another class for absolutely no reason. It doesn’t matter what you care to race, just be glad you get to do it. I had a great time at Indy and I’d do it again. This was something planned for over 3 years on my bucket list and would have been done in 2017 but, I lost my Mom & Stepmom to Cancer so I made it a point for my Dad and I to hit it in 2019. Yes, there was a lot of negatives with the event (parking, stacking, loss of a time run, 1st round Thursday) but, I don’t bring that up. Have fun and live life.

Mike Fuller 09-03-2019 07:06 PM

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I feel that this mess has cured me from going to the us nationals. nhra did not have any plan at all in place. They did not have enough people parking the rigs. Lets face it. During this time of the year in Indy it rains almost every time during the nationals.I have been to this race race since 1987 and the races that it did not rain were far and few between. On another note they need to make this race go fast or go home. They have added top sportsman and top dragster. Super gas and super do not fit this description. The pits are not big enough to accommodate any more cars. This fiasco is a testament to this. I was pitted it a spot that was on a 15 degree slant to one side. THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.THE GRASS WAS ANKLE DEEP. THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.

5389stk 09-03-2019 07:42 PM

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So did nhra vp in charge of parking walk through sportsman pits with kick me pinned to the seat of his pants. Never could figure this stacking thing out . Talk about a fire hazard could you imagine being parked 4 deep in 10 rigs front and back. Rig in front of you starts on fire at 2am. How would fire dept put that mess out.

Mike Fuller 09-03-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 5389stk (Post 596562)
So did nhra vp in charge of parking walk through sportsman pits with kick me pinned to the seat of his pants. Never could figure this stacking thing out . Talk about a fire hazard could you imagine being parked 4 deep in 10 rigs front and back. Rig in front of you starts on fire at 2am. How would fire dept put that mess out.

This is a great point. We need to keep the local fire departments aware of this every time it occurs. Actually the nhra brass really doesn't give two s****
about the filler dregs. As long as they get paid thier 6 figure salary nothing else really matters to the brass at this not for profit corporation.

MR DERBY CITY 09-03-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 596556)
I feel that this mess has cured me from going to the us nationals. nhra did not have any plan at all in place. They did not have enough people parking the rigs. Lets face it. During this time of the year in Indy it rains almost every time during the. I have been to this race race since 1987 and the races that it did not rain were far and few between. On another note they need to make this race go fast or go home. They have added top sportsman and top dragster. Super gas and super do not fit this description. The pits are not big enough to accommodate any more cars. This fiasco is a testament to this. I was pitted it a spot that was on a 15 degree slant to one side. THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.THE GRASS WAS ANKLE DEEP. THIS IS UNACCAPTABLE.

This organization ?? will do anything to save $$$. , and it’s usually at the Sportsman’s expense. I have NEVER understood their business plan but I look for a reduced QUOTA for stock and superstock next year. When you can’t get your CUSTOMERS in the track and pitted in time to make their time runs something is WRONG ....

a pontiac 09-03-2019 08:23 PM

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I spoke with a person involved in the parking. This years crew was cut in half from last year and the supervisor was the only one with parking experience. The track opened 930am Sunday staging in the grass, 100 rigs could have been parked easily. Anyone with internet knew the 70-90% rain forecast would happen Monday thru Tuesday. As far as parking help goes it was funny there was a parking attendant for sportsman golf carts at the grandstand.

Jerry Terry 09-03-2019 08:24 PM

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I think we all know where their [NHRA] priorities lie especially after watching them run the sportsman finals last night after the stands had emptied. The sportsman finals were awesome last night congratulations to all the sportsman for putting on a great show.




Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

BKSG1198 09-04-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by a pontiac (Post 596572)
I spoke with a person involved in the parking. This years crew was cut in half from last year and the supervisor was the only one with parking experience. The track opened 930am Sunday staging in the grass, 100 rigs could have been parked easily. Anyone with internet knew the 70-90% rain forecast would happen Monday thru Tuesday. As far as parking help goes it was funny there was a parking attendant for sportsman golf carts at the grandstand.

I also heard from a few people that the reason that the parking didn’t start till Tuesday was due to the insurance not kicking in till then. I guess if they decided to park Sunday or Monday and something happened to someone it wouldn’t be covered. I’m not sure how true it is but, that was the grumblings in the stands during Friday Night qualifying. You could tell that by Tuesday Night the parking crew was worn thin and beat from being short handed, in fact some fellow .90 racers had to control the lines getting into the place because it started to become a cattle heard when they started to empty out the staging lanes. The first lanes moved and then numbers #450+ started to get in before the 290 & 300’s so they went and controlled the front of the lanes and the joke was that they should send NHRA a bill for their services...lol

4543 09-04-2019 08:27 AM

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I think people should quit guessing what the problem was with parking at Indy. It was a joke. The SRAC Reps from every division and every class should address this with a united effort. While NHRA can’t control the weather everyone could see the forecast and they could have adapted to the situation by parking people as they arrived. Parking earlier would have allowed an earlier start on the first day which might have meant an earlier finish on Sunday.

Frank Castros 09-04-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 4543 (Post 596619)
I think people should quit guessing what the problem was with parking at Indy. It was a joke. The SRAC Reps from every division and every class should address this with a united effort. While NHRA can’t control the weather everyone could see the forecast and they could have adapted to the situation by parking people as they arrived. Parking earlier would have allowed an earlier start on the first day which might have meant an earlier finish on Sunday.

The core issue to this disgrace is to minimize expenses, whether it's insurance, personnel or other. It's not poor planning or management, they know exactly what they're doing, it's expenses.
At the biggest drag racing event of the year this is unconscionable. Every sportsman classed contestant should contact the following to voice their disappointment;

Peter Clifford Chief Executive Officer
Glen Cromwell President
Kasey Coler Vice President -Track Management & Operations

sc583 09-04-2019 09:05 AM

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I know they couldn't control the weather, but poor planning is inexusable. I was one of the last ones in and around 11am one of the NHRA officials came down to the holding lot and told us, "I don't know where we're going to put you but we're working on a plan". That in my mind was inexusable not to have a Plan A, B, C, etc ready and waiting for all scenarios at the biggest race of the year.


I also found it frustrating, when being parked, to pass numerous racers that had 3, 4 and in a couple scenarios, 5 spots saved for folks that weren't there yet, and remember, this was 2:00ish on Wednesday when I was getting parked.

Steve Polhill 09-04-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris1529 (Post 595727)
Why don't they just park around the clock as folks show up?

$$$$$$$$$$ That's why they don't park on Monday anymore either.

X-TECH MAN 09-04-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 596625)
The core issue to this disgrace is to minimize expenses, whether it's insurance, personnel or other. It's not poor planning or management, they know exactly what they're doing, it's expenses.
At the biggest drag racing event of the year this is unconscionable. Every sportsman classed contestant should contact the following to voice their disappointment;

Peter Clifford Chief Executive Officer
Glen Cromwell President
Kasey Coler Vice President -Track Management & Operations

The core problem is "THEY DO NOT GIVE A POOP" !

Billy Nees 09-04-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 596632)
The core problem is "THEY DO NOT GIVE A POOP" !

The core problem is that THEY who DO NOT GIVE A POOP know that there's almost no chance what-so-ever that Sportsmen Racers will stick together and do whatever is necessary to accomplish positive (for Sportsmen Racers) change.

Mike Jones 09-04-2019 02:35 PM

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President Trump says he doesn`t blame China for taking advantage of us...maybe there is something to be learned.
Mike A114

Ralph A Powell 09-04-2019 04:21 PM

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Me thinks it maybe Wayne Township there a bunch of city's merdged into this Wayne Township deal.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 596567)
This is a great point. We need to keep the local fire departments aware of this every time it occurs. Actually the nhra brass really doesn't give two s****
about the filler dregs. As long as they get paid thier 6 figure salary nothing else really matters to the brass at this not for profit corporation.


jwsamuel 09-05-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Terry (Post 596573)
I think we all know where their [NHRA] priorities lie especially after watching them run the sportsman finals last night after the stands had emptied.

They should have locked all the fans to their seats to keep them from leaving. Seriously, what did you expect them to do?

tim worner 09-06-2019 08:08 PM

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Did anyone remember when we went in and out of the track everyday

Rich Biebel 09-06-2019 08:28 PM

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Went to many national events with a suburban and either an open trailer or a 22"- 24' enclosed

Shared motels with as many as 4-6 guys

Indy, Gainesville.....

Drove home from Etown every night (50 miles)and had a suburban and an open trailer......Did that many times.....

Maybe if motel prices did not skyrocket over the years the Motorhome era would not have become so popular and so fast.

Having one is a must anymore though to me. Could not race without some comfort....

Nmbr1GMfan 09-08-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Terry (Post 596573)
I think we all know where their [NHRA] priorities lie especially after watching them run the sportsman finals last night after the stands had emptied. The sportsman finals were awesome last night congratulations to all the sportsman for putting on a great show.




Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

There were hundreds of sportsman racers in attendance at Indy, there were probably 20 racers in attendance that actualy watched the final rounds. We don't even want to watch it ourselves!

Jerry Terry 09-08-2019 10:36 PM

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And Todd it was an awesome final I was in S.C. but watched it on NHRA TV wish I could have been there. Hope you and your daughter enjoyed it. Your car looks awesome and first time out you guys did great.




Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

Nmbr1GMfan 09-08-2019 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Terry (Post 597160)
And Todd it was an awesome final I was in S.C. but watched it on NHRA TV wish I could have been there. Hope you and your daughter enjoyed it. Your car looks awesome and first time out you guys did great.




Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

Jerry, you need to come out of retirement and come race with us!:D:D:D

BKSG1198 09-09-2019 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tim worner (Post 596991)
Did anyone remember when we went in and out of the track everyday

I remember having to do it at Delmar every day after the D1 Race was over...could you
Imagine doing that now...lol


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