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X-TECH MAN 11-18-2019 12:31 PM

Re: NHRA rules for everyone but STEVE TORRANCE
 
Its fuel queers.........Who cares ?

CMcAllister 11-18-2019 01:17 PM

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Emotions running high, everyone tighter than a piano spring. Right or wrong, Torrence thought the guy was trying to screw him up rather than race him clean at the climax moment of the season.

Understandable he would be cranked up when he got out of the car. He's high strung anyway. Agreed, he shouldn't have gone hands on. They shook hands, made up, maybe have a laugh over a beer and become pals. No one knows what transpired after the fact. Ferre gets noticed, maybe some new found notoriety. It's over with.

If NHRA wants to fine him and maybe dock him points for a race next year, after all the banquet festivities are over, that would make sense.

cmracing 11-18-2019 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 602124)
Emotions running high, everyone tighter than a piano spring. Right or wrong, Torrence thought the guy was trying to screw him up rather than race him clean at the climax moment of the season.

Understandable he would be cranked up when he got out of the car. He's high strung anyway. Agreed, he shouldn't have gone hands on. They shook hands, made up, maybe have a laugh over a beer and become pals. No one knows what transpired after the fact. Ferre gets noticed, maybe some new found notoriety. It's over with.

If NHRA wants to fine him and maybe dock him points for a race next year, after all the banquet festivities are over, that would make sense.

How did he not race him clean?

Was Autostart turned-off?

Were they holding the tree for DEEP???????

Get real!

He got hung-out for a tad bit, but ALL WITHIN THE RULES!

And when he finally staged he rolled right into DEEP!

Did John Force get slapped, punched, yelled-at by anyone he Deep Staged against this year?

Did John Force NOT race cleanly?????????

I was a Steve Torrence fan, but after that bull**** ***** slap, he can go ***** himself! People with money think they can do as they please.

Doug Herbert would have folded him up like a suitcase!

greg h williams 11-18-2019 04:53 PM

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The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams

John Kissel 11-18-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stock1080 (Post 602108)
another thing I got out of this was that Tony Pedregon comment "that he should have just gotten out of Steve's way" because he was running for a world title. Really? we all do that, right? He is the worst "play by play" man ever. Greg Anderson really takes the cake also, Erica just won and he couldn't wait to say something, good lord.

Everytime that pedregon opens his mouth, i hit the mute button. John Kissel

Jim Kaekel 11-18-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by greg h williams (Post 602143)
The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams

If he was a sportsman racer, he would have been thrown out of the event. I saw this coming from his previous on-air comments. He should NOT get a pass just because he races Top Fuel.

Bill Grubbs 11-18-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by greg h williams (Post 602143)
The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams

There is a significant difference between desire and taking action!

Tony Fagnilli 11-18-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by greg h williams (Post 602143)
The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams





Desire, yes. But, I'm not an eight year, I can control my emotions. And, so should he. He's a bitch.

Keith 944 11-18-2019 06:30 PM

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Biggest problem I have with this is it was done right in front of an official. if any of us would have done that we would’ve been immediately suspended. why the double standard???? Shouldn’t the rules be enforced the same?

gsa612 11-18-2019 06:59 PM

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NHRA posted "We are evaluating the matter and any potential penalties will be assessed after a thorough review".NHRA has to be aware of whatever penalties are given (if any) it will set a precedent for future similar incidents in all classes.They may just impose a"big fine" and a public apology which would not be acceptable.Have to see how it plays out...gsa612

pmrphil 11-18-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 602160)
NHRA posted "We are evaluating the matter and any potential penalties will be assessed after a thorough review".NHRA has to be aware of whatever penalties are given (if any) it will set a precedent for future similar incidents in all classes.They may just impose a"big fine" and a public apology which would not be acceptable.Have to see how it plays out...gsa612

Yeah, a big fine to a millionaire family that just won a half million probably won't mean much to ST, just like his "apology" doesn't hold much water, either.

jmcarter 11-18-2019 07:27 PM

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NHRA posted about their “disappointment” over the incident, but apparently not so much that they stop posting promotional videos about it. Gimme a break, they’re pondering the precedent set by it when if a sportsman behaves similarly the precedent is already established, DQ’d on the spot.

Jim Caughlin 11-18-2019 07:37 PM

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Well, consider that if NHRA decides to impose a fine, they get to keep the money, that might motivate them...

Ed Carpenter 11-18-2019 09:15 PM

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Torrence is a punk and nhra is a joke

gsa612 11-18-2019 09:47 PM

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The NHRA awards ceremony was today,I wonder if he received his Championship Wally.By rights it should be held pending on the findings of NHRA's "thorough review" of the incident.And after the review is complete that they still deem him worthy of being a "Champion"...gsa612

doglover44 11-18-2019 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 602175)
The NHRA awards ceremony was today,I wonder if he received his Championship Wally.By rights it should be held pending on the findings of NHRA's "thorough review" of the incident.And after the review is complete that they still deem him worthy of being a "Champion"...gsa612

There's nothing to review clip is all over the web the clip tells the whole story

Ed Fernandez 11-19-2019 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by greg h williams (Post 602143)
The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams

Yeah, and Adolf Hitler was just a misunderstood painter.

Larry Hill 11-19-2019 10:36 AM

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What ever happened to "Triple Dog Dare" ? It is approaching the Christmas Season.

nhramnl 11-19-2019 10:42 AM

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Dammit, we need Ed Bigley to tell us how we're supposed to feel about this!

63corvette 11-19-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by greg h williams (Post 602143)
The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams

So tell us Greg are you one of those Sportsman Racers that CAPCO says they support on their website?
That could tell us all a great deal.
Striking a competitor is an automatic DQ and more upcoming actions for any of us who are only lowly Sportsman Racers.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Bob Don 11-19-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nhramnl (Post 602198)
Dammit, we need Ed Bigley to tell us how we're supposed to feel about this!

uh...no we don't.

Bob Mulry 11-19-2019 12:27 PM

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Even in the NFL, if you cross the line you will be ejected with a fine to follow...

I guess it's who you bl-w, after all...

dartman 11-19-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 602211)
Even in the NFL, if you cross the line you will be ejected with a fine to follow...

I guess it's who you bl-w, after all...

Well in the NHL (national hockey league) you only get 5 minutes for fighting lol

BG56 11-19-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dartman (Post 602215)
Well in the NHL (national hockey league) you only get 5 minutes for fighting lol

Good point!

pmrphil 11-19-2019 01:21 PM

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Maybe they have a double-secret rule for un-pro like conduct. Obviously unsportsmanlike conduct rule DIDN'T apply, like it would for any sportsman competitor.

Bill Grubbs 11-19-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dartman (Post 602215)
Well in the NHL (national hockey league) you only get 5 minutes for fighting lol

Yeah...but in TF time that is 75 rounds (at 4.0 seconds per run). That is almost a full season!

davidhuff 11-19-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 602211)
Even in the NFL, if you cross the line you will be ejected with a fine to follow...

I guess it's who you bl-w, after all...

I agree 100%,but you do not punish the whole team and take their championship from them that the whole team won.

Jim Kaekel 11-19-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 602222)
I agree 100%,but you do not punish the whole team and take their championship from them that the whole team won.

There is literally no defense for what Steve Torrence did. It was inexcusable and he needs to be punished for it. There would be no argument from anybody if he was a sportsman racer. You can't make acceptable to sock somebody just because of who you are.

gsa612 11-19-2019 04:38 PM

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Seeing ST was awarded the TF Championship last night says to me there is not going to be any hard disciplinary action.With all the comments on various sites NHRA wants to down play this as much as possible for the sake of losing sponsors,fans etc.It's always about the money!.I'm sure they had a long talk with both involved.I see the next step being they hold a press conference with ST and Ferre present.ST opologizes for his"heat of the moment reaction" Ferre accepts, they bump fists end of story.Then the only action NHRA "MAY" take is a fine.Hope I'm wrong but we all know who were dealing with...gsa612

GUMP 11-19-2019 04:52 PM

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They should put on gloves and have a charity match in the ring.

Bob Smith 11-19-2019 07:19 PM

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Steve Torrance is a disgrace and not a true champion. A champion shows class in good times and in bad, under pressure, after a loss and after a win. His folks should be embarrassed.

As for NHRA they have posted it everywhere for media attention and the almighty $$.

Frank Castros 11-19-2019 07:56 PM

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Torrence is a jackass for sure.

Jim Wahl 11-19-2019 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dartman (Post 602215)
Well in the NHL (national hockey league) you only get 5 minutes for fighting lol

Last time I looked Drag Racing is not a contact sport. If you want to sucker punch people, take up boxing!
Jim


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Jim Wahl 11-19-2019 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by greg h williams (Post 602143)
The Torrences have been our close friends for over 20 years.Nothing was given to them.They are fierce competiters in business,sports and life in general.They are hard working,good people.As long as there is competition,there will be altercations.If you have never had the desire to give someone a shove,you probably need to get your testosterone level checked.Congratulations to Steve,Billy,Kay and all those Capco Boys!

Greg Williams

Oh, he shoved him also? What I saw was Torrance clock him in the face. A cowardly sucker punch. Nobody's buying what your selling Greg. Jim


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davidhuff 11-19-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 602261)
Oh, he shoved him also? What I saw was Torrance clock him in the face. A cowardly sucker punch. Nobody's buying what your selling Greg. Jim


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I wish we all lived a perfect life like you and we could all go around judging other members posts that we disagree with.LOL

doglover44 11-19-2019 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Smith (Post 602243)
Steve Torrance is a disgrace and not a true champion. A champion shows class in good times and in bad, under pressure, after a loss and after a win. His folks should be embarrassed.

As for NHRA they have posted it everywhere for media attention and the almighty $$.

That makes me think it was scripted and planed

Dinsdale 11-19-2019 11:07 PM

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No double standards at NHRA. I believe it was Greg Anderson who got a big fine for flipping up his visor before leaving the racing surface a few years back and then we have this guy who only got a finger wag..

Darrel Goheen 11-20-2019 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 602232)
Seeing TC was awarded the TF Championship

TC?

gsa612 11-20-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 602284)
TC?

Sorry, ST... Steve (sucker punch) Torrance...gsa612

Ron Ortiz 11-20-2019 10:06 AM

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Will this altercation be added to the new video being produced by RAP, (Racing Antics Productions), "Drag Racings Contact Disagreements Vol 1".

"See all your favorite drives and/or crews participate in contact disagreements. Action packed, up close, with sound! Watch the near misses, slight grazes and full contacts with oohs and ahhs. From pros to sportsman, we've got em all".

RAP also has Dirt Track, NASCAR and FORMULA 1 associated videos.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA 3 easy payments.


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