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Thanks for the Covid Quarantine entertainment. Continue, as I have a giant bowl of popcorn to inhale!

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Sean, I don't want to get any more threads closed, nor this one ;-)

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You're a really sick man. But then again, Brian is your dad LOL!!!!!!:D:D:D

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No, even worse you race Stock Eliminator!!!:eek:

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So anything you don't want talked about is gossip I guess. Get a clue, forums are for discussion, not just for those that "have all the facts"

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You just don't get it.
When you are not aware or don't know the facts, why even discuss it?
It becomes gossip.

Add your previous statement that NHRA rescinded the rule because some people "cried"?

Your posting gives many the impression that John builds illegal engines when the fact is his engines have undergone many teardowns throughout the years and set many records and always deemed legal. Let's not forget there are others that have been doing the same work on their cylinder heads with other makes and they are considered legal. Is there a bias?

By the way, I do not have any involvement in the lawsuit.

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A couple posters in this thread seem ridiculously sensitive to this post.

As a completely outside observer but one who follows most topics on the board pretty closely, I don't think anything actually posted by the OP is anything close to out of line.

Nobody is saying (that I see) the racers that had Gulius stuff or used similar mods are or were cheaters. The stuff was made illegal via rule change, there was a huge uproar, and NHRA reversed the rule change. If I had stuff that checked legal and was made illegal with a stroke of the pen, I'd complain or cry too. The OP said the same. That doesn't infer anything negative about the complainers, IMO.

Now there is a lawsuit that is likely related, and a post was made here. I don't think one needs to know every facet of a topic to make a post about it.

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So, you are saying that Gulius was doing port work before it was legal, doing chamber work before it was legal, gas porting pistons before it was legal because his customers wanted it? In your words, is that what you are saying?

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And who are you, the Attorney General? I didn't SAY any of those things. You inferred them. What I ACTUALLY SAID was that it's a shame that, in a world where rule bending and breaking is accepted as the price of admission, it's a shame that a long-established leader in Super Stock engine building has to defend his work and career. And that's ALL I said.

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I didn't say I didn't say it, I said I didn't say I said it...








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The tech dept has no doubt found many illegal items only to be overridden by the powers that be. Why? More than likely to avoid lawsuits by the competitor towards his engine builder. When push came to shove, the engine builder did not talk to the techman who found the illegal item. The engine builder went straight to the top and confronted the powers that be saying the illegal part had passed tech many times before. Of course those many times before may not have been in tear down but in tech at a points meet probably by a guy who normally teched S/G. Now that some real rules with some teeth in it have been proposed they start rubbing the engine builders the wrong way and all #### breaks loose.

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It would be interesting to know what Mr Gulius motivation to bring a law suit against NHRA. Money, respect. I know he closed his business down supposedly because of this head issue. He is 75 years old. His stuff was always very fast but sometimes didn’t pass tear down. I know of some that got their privilege suspended that were his customers.

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It doesn't matter where, when, or how....if a "shirt" with the logo of "NHRA" tears someone down, there better be a consistent rule implementation. I find this to "NOT" be the rule of thumb with the "sanctioning" body of our sport.
Too many "John Wayne" wannabes floating around!
Sad, very sad!

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It was before I started racing, but I heard back when Farmer Dismuke was the NHRA National Tech Director, he had the final say, and very little "funny stuff" got past him. Seems that things were a lot more "black and white" when he was in command.

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It baffles me how this thread keeps going with very little and/or no knowledge about the facts. As I have pointed out previously, to other posters on here, please refrain from making statements you are not educated on. If you would like the facts, although I doubt any of the parties involved will tell you, go get them from the source. If not, your speculative BS is exactly that...BS, and you know who you are! Never heard so many people love the sound of their own voice...keyboard!

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Kevin, my Pop passed away in 2005, still feisty at 98, he coined a colloquialism for the phenomenon you describe. He would say, "Sounds like a man with a paper asshole on a windy day!" Took years for me to understand what he was talking about but then one day I heard it...