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Dr. Ben Carson says 98% of coronavirus cases recover and ‘we can’t operate out of hysteria’
The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is now the leading cause of death for Americans. But Carson said there will be more death "if we destroy the economic infrastructure of this country."

He said the country may not recover economically if America does not open back up for business.

Despite this, the HUD Secretary said the country can't reopen too early.

"Obviously, we don't want to [resume economic activity] too early. We will wait for a couple of weeks and see if [the curve] continues down and then we also need to make sure that we have appropriate testing."

Carson suggested that the government's response to the virus has been extreme.

He also said that not enough attention was being given to the "number of people who have recovered" and that "98 percent" could expect to come through the virus.

"You probably do know someone that has it, you may have it, who knows?" Carson told Fox News host Martha MacCallum on Thursday. "But people have been terrified because we've talked about the bad."

"We can't operate out of hysteria," Carson said. "When people are hysterical, they don't do logical things."

Paul and Bruce both BLUE STATERS imagine that.

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The 98% estimate may even be low. It will never really be known how many people had the virus. Many have minor or even no symptoms at all.

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While that might be true. If everyone that needed or wanted a test could get a test. The truth is there is not enough testing being done or available.

So just what numbers did Dr. Carson use? Since at one point he worked at Johns Hopkins lets use their numbers.

► 37309 / 711197 = 0.052459 USA

► 156901 / 2284018 = 0.068695 World Wide

Stan


PS - Added Percentages

► 100 - ((156901/2284018) * 100) = 93.13% World Wide

► 100 - ((37309/711197) * 100) = 94.754% USA

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MY HUNCH:

If everyone was tested.......There would be 10 or 20 times as many cases
of the Virus as we are counting. That would indicate a Death rate of ten
or twenty times less percentage wise and about like common flu.

I am still going to be cautious in public but I am going out of the Darn
House.

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I just don't know how one can put percentages on human lives. 98% survival rate sounds pretty good........unless you are in the other 2%.

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Look up Stanford study of Santa Clara, CA. Article was on CNN of all places.
The numbers may be actually 50 - 80 times.

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Ben Carson is a neurosurgeon, hardly an expert on pandemics. Besides, Bill Bennett (conservative pundit) gave almost the exact same spiel during a Fox interview. Maybe they read from the same script.

I'm not sure what blue states have to do with anything here.

Anyways, Mr Greene if you insist on minimizing the effect of COVID 19, I suggest to take a roadtrip from Tennessee, stop in Washington DC, pickup Dr. Carson and go to one of the hospitals in the Bronx or Brooklyn. Take a stroll thru the ICU without PPE and witness the human suffering. Then volunteer to help the health workers putting in 16+ hour shifts. If that doesn't work you can come to the other end of New York State and visit the Erie County Medical Center. The county where I live has 2000+ cases of the COVID 19 virus. Perhaps you will change your thinking about sheep, goats and hoaxes.


pS

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I am really surprised why more, on here, are not outraged. This virus has proven deadly for those of us with "underlying" medical conditions. I suspect that most "baby boomers/Viet Nam era veterans all have "underlying medical conditions", therefore, likely to expire as a result of coronavirus.
The emphasis should not be on the 98% that likely would survive, but on the total, including the Viet Nam veterans that gave their all.
Echo Charlie Out.

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Sorry to duplicate, not smart enough to fix it. Lol

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[QUOTE=SStockDart;612638]I just don't know how one can put percentages on human lives. 98% survival rate sounds pretty good........unless you are in the other 2%.[/QUOTE

Where is the outrage against smokers kills 30% obesity, high blood pressure the flu is more deadly. No one wants to be in the 2% but if you are a fat smoker with high blood pressure it is probably a lot higher than that. If you take care of your body this virus is nothing.

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[QUOTE=Rod Greene;612659]This will be an obvious answer to most rational people. There is no outrage because a fat smoker can not kill a multitude of people. He can only kill himself.

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I am a Viet Nam era veteran (U.S. Navy from 1967-1971 on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships). I have never smoked, but I am 73 years old and I have asthma; otherwise, I am in excellent health. Due to my age and underlying condition, if I were to get this disease, the consequences most likely would be dire. Be safe everyone, I hope to see you at a race at some point this season!

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Bill, thank you for your service.

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You're welcome Bruce; you and I are in complete agreement regarding COVID-19 and several other things that I won't mention here.

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I left Missouri this morning, drove to North Dakota heading back to work. I drove through South Dakota on I 29, not much traffic, when I was north of Sioux City South Dakota, just north of town is a dirt track, the pits were full of late models and modified dirt cars, seen cars on the track and people in the stands, not sure if they were just hot lapping or racing, but looked pretty full to me, so there are people out there racing. Was wondering if Thunder Valley in Marion is open.

Randy Wells
C/SA
Wells Bros

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How close is that track to the Smithfield Pork Plant in South Dakota?

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Smithfield plant is 100 miles south, Sioux Falls, but most effected there are migrants, pretty sure they don't run in the same circle.

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I'm just trying to make some sense of all these people at this Dirt Track today? They are about 100 miles from what is now described as a NATION HOTSPOT for COVID-19, after the Smithfield announcement. A processing plant that has about 3700 employees. It has now been announced that close to 700 people, employees and people directly involved with those from the Plant have tested positive. With the pits full of Late Models and Modified Dirt Cars and people in the stands. Makes me wonder how many of the remaining 3000 people, may have attended this event? Meanwhile the rest of the people in THE WORLD have been ordered to stay out of the public and indoors if possible. What makes all these people attending and participating at this event SO SPECIAL that they don't have to follow the orders that have been given to the rest of THE WORLD, Hot Lapping or not? MB

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Constitutionally speaking, state and local government.
That being said, I wouldn't sit in any grandstand ,in close proximity to other people, at this time, no matter where it is.

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I heard on the news this morning a prison in Ohio has 73% of the inmates testing positive. I wonder if they tested everyone in America or for that matter the world what the % would test positive?

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The correctional facility in Marion county Ohio is a mere 56 miles from the Norwalk Dragstrip....Bad news travels fast....

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I hope Bill Bader's event happens sucussefully, safely with proper social distatncing, and peacefully. Ohio very much in the news these days. Respect the nation wide protest, wish they were done respecting social distancing. The one in Denver did not.

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There are 8 states in the country that have little or no restrictions in place from there Governors. Both of the Dakota's being 2 of them. So probably not in violation. The whole world may have guidlines from The President, Dr Fauci, the W.H.O. , CDC or whoever but not necessarily law.

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First off, thank you for your service. I wasn't in the service, but worked for the Post Office. My 1st few years was in the military mail section. We handle most of the mail going to the service men and women around the world. I hope all got everything that was sent to them, a few packages didn't make it. That was from 68 until 71 or there abouts.

I am 70 and have had asthma (mostly in my youth but some issues in adulthood). That being said I am very careful when I get out. Most of my food is brought to me by my daughter and her husband. I am very grateful for that. I do go for some fun food on occasion (ice cream and such). Being on house arrest (as I call it) is frustrating, but I get it. I pray daily and enjoy talking with people when I am out. We keep our distance and all seem to be doing quite well.

Common sense applies to anything that we do in these times. Unfortunately, many people don't have that and thus are possibly putting others in danger. I, for one, am willing to stay close to home and wait it out. Good luck to all and stay safe and healthy. Prayers to you all.

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South Dakota has a governor that understands the constitution, unlike some others. And I am not a republican.

To each his own, stay home if you want. I am 74, have RA, a cancer and SEPSIS survivor, even with that I intend to live my life as normal as possible.

Let's get to racing. Fresh air, a gentle breeze and sunshine is a hellave lot better then being couped up in stale house!

#5458

Curt Rees

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Not all of the Governors seem to understand the constitution or care. One of my favorite quotes lately is from New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy saying in regards to a question regarding the constitution .. " That's above my pay grade.."

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Looks as though the NASCAR teams are heading back to work...racing in May with no spectators is the plan. Could NHRA be far behind ?

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Paul,
What you don't seem to understand is most people in this country do not live like you city dwellers, we don't ride subways, or live on top of each other my county has 2 cases, no hospitalizations and most don't get flu shots so there immune systems are working. So you city folks deal with like you want, and in your case Paul your just hoping it destroys the economy so Pervert Joe gets elected, and us country folks will go racing hows that BUD

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[QUOTE=Paul Sarvas;612596]I'd rather be a live sheep than a


Amazing how many Commies are on this forum

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I dunno what this means. I don't live in a city. I'm not that close to a city really. I've never ridden on a subway. I've never seen a subway.


That's great. You are very fortunate sir. There are almost one million cases in the USA. That's ~ 1 in 325 citizens infected. God willing your county will continue to be almost virus free.


Nothing could be farther from the truth. I wish the virus never happened and the economy was not falling apart. Hopefully it will be back up and running as soon as possible. I dunno what Pervert Joe means.


Ya lost me there...


pS

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[QUOTE=Randy Wells;613209]
Forthwith, moronic replies will be graciously ignored.


Thank you,


pS

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[QUOTE=Randy Wells;613209]Your asinine statement is not worthy of a reply; but it reminds me of what Larry Morgan said several years ago "You can't fix stupid".

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[QUOTE=Superfan1;613241]Your right no name anyone that would back Pervert Joe, and his probable running mate Mike Obama is a commie and very stupid. So yes you can not fix stupid, you dont like it kiss my A**

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Why is that a problem? Since the present POTUS is a Pervert. :eek:


Stan

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[QUOTE=Stan Weiss;613245]Man you snowflakes are coming out of the wood work, and all from snowflake states.

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Understandable response. When the truth is told to you, all you have got left is name calling.LMAO


Stan

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Oh Stan my boy we have way more then that, what do you have, a senile pervert and a middle linebacker, good luck with that, you need to get out and get some fresh air, it will be ok.

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Clearly you know POTUS very well. So what brand of beach does he recommend drinking these days?


Stan