Originally Posted by Steve Polhill (Post 615966)

Why even bother having class at Indy then?

Originally Posted by Robert McCoy (Post 615946)

When they answered me on the Live Video one has to guess Phil did not have all the details. Phil is a pretty straight up guy in my experience, so he answered the best that he could at the time.

Originally Posted by Robert McCoy (Post 615970)

Exactly........If NHRA is making Some effort to have class, why do it like this, a 20% solution IMO. Maybe 10%. Time constraints and $$ one would guess.

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 615974)

But Phil did have the scheduled number of days that would be contested at Indy along with the info about the extra categories such as the Allstars. I don't see how someone on the inside couldn't calculate what we could see from the outside that there weren't enough hours in the day or days in the event to run the traditional class eliminations at Indy. That is simple logic.



If the NHRA wanted a solution that showed some effort would be to do all the class eliminations and qualifying for Stock/Super Stock on Wednesday and start parking as early as Monday. That has zero impact on the Pros if they get held over from the week before at Atlanta. Any Stock or Super Stock racers that are that late into eliminations at Atlanta are probably happy as I would be and the drive to Indy wouldn't be all that bad as a rush.

Sorry for the multiple quotes, but you hit on two points that I feel the NHRA laid down and gave a lame solution.

Originally Posted by 354valiant (Post 616084)

Anybody remember the Class Nationals @ Byorn Dragway in 2001? I believe it was a 3 day event with Class for Stk/SS & 2 days of Racing for Stk/SS with additional gamblers races too... Not a Bad idea for the Class Racing Community to determine the best Stk/SS in the country this year, Maybe reach out to Byorn Dragway (Midwest location for both Coasts) to consider it for this year...

Originally Posted by BRINK (Post 616102)

Great idea except for a few problems that now exist. Namely both Alex Denysenko and Ron Leek have passed on. The 2001 Class Nationals at Byron Dragway would not have happened without their guidance and leadership. Secondly, Byron is in Illinois. I don't believe that the Governor will allow any kind of motorsport activities in 2020 until a cure for Covid 19 has been addressed. Joliet closed down for this reason. Ultimately it would be great if Bill Bader, Jr. would promote the event at Norwalk for 2021.

Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 616123)

Indy has always been a special race for me. Although I have missed several I try to make it every year. I'll be 65 this year and I decided a few years ago God willing that I would not to miss another one. I love all out Class Racing. And Indy brings out some of the best in all the classes. It's one of the few Pro and Sportsman National Event's that the Sportsman racers have a few days that we are important to the race. I would hope that someone from NHRA would post anywhere what is the reason why they have cut this from the race. Indy cost more to enter. Will the entrance be less this year? Please ad Wednesday back in and let us have Class for Stock and Super Stock. Barry Parker

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 616109)

Great points Bill, Michael Beard did ALL he could to help the Stk/SS community BUT in the end there was not enough SUPPORT from us ! Thanks again MICHAEL !!!!....There won’t be any more of these races similar the the US Class Nationals UNLESS a promoter wants to work his AZZ off, schedule a race , listen to US gripe about time and location, work his AZZ off only to lose money when many of us don’t attend. Alex somehow made this happen, on the hottest weekend of the year in Byron, Illinois and it was MAGICAL....RIP my friend.....

Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 616135)

MJ Indy has always been the Super Bowl of Drag Racing. With this schedule it's been turned into another Pro National Event with Sportsman racers to fill in the down time. They wont' get my money this year nor my brothers and several other friends that make the long trip. None of us come by our self and we all spend money at the track. Barry

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 616155)

I forget the year, a big surprise, but due to rain class was this at Indy.

Same class cars went down together. If you missed that run no class for you. Class win was determined by fastest winning time. If you red lighted, late and did not turn on win light, or failed fuel or weight you lost. It was the fastest winning time.

Don Little or Mike Fuller could tell us the year. I think Mike got by Don by .001. It was not what everyone came to Indy for but due to weather that's how it worked.

Indy is everyone's yardstick. I want to know if all my work this year closed the gap between Mr. Jim and I.

Cutting the schedule and cutting out Class is WRONG.

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 616169)

I do know how to read a rulebook

Originally Posted by Marty Buth (Post 616185)

Larry, I know you work hard as anyone on your cars.

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 616206)

You don't get it, Larry is proud of how he has manipulated the rulebook. For years he told everybody who would listen about his scheme.