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Mark Yacavone 07-25-2020 11:31 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 619316)
police force in all cities are more that capable of controlling those protests and enforcing the law.

Good one, Einstein.

Jeff Stout 07-25-2020 11:39 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
[QUOTE=Stan Weiss;619324]We'll prosecute: Two chief prosecutors tell Trump and federal agents to back off their cities

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...f-their-cities


Where were these prosecutors when the breaking and entry was going on, arson, bodily harm, blocking roads? These are also crimes yet crickets. Now feds are protecting federal buildings and they are bent on prosecuting them for doing the job they are legally allowed to do.. Funny how nobody is above the law per Pelosi yet here we are. Picking and choosing what is considered a crime. What a joke.

Mark Yacavone 07-25-2020 11:41 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619294)
Sure, I'll stand up; I'm a Democrat and proud of it. I served this country for 4 years in the Navy during the Vietnam War era on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships. I gave 4 years of my life to have the freedom to support the political party that most closely aligns with my values. The last time I checked, I still have that freedom today!

Ditto on the Thanks.
Now Bill, If I remember , you were one of the few preaching for maximum caution, a few months ago..Stay home .Wear your masks everywhere...DON'T bring the virus home to your loved ones, etc. Fast forward to July, when some wishy washy governor four states away gives an okay, off you go to the races..What makes YOU so sure it was the right thing to do, all of a sudden? Why can't the state of Colorado exhibit the same precautions? That's the point of this thread, and probably why a few un-named folks here got called out.
Anybody else see a bunch of liberal hypocrisy here?

Stan Weiss 07-25-2020 11:49 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 619325)
Far Left spin /BS , that doesn't dignify a specific response ..I thought you were smarter than this..Guess not...


‘Wall of Veterans’ Arrives in Portland to Protect Black Lives Matter Protesters from Trump’s DHS Troops

https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd...ps-dhs-troops/


Stan

Jeff Stout 07-25-2020 11:58 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619332)
‘Wall of Veterans’ Arrives in Portland to Protect Black Lives Matter Protesters from Trump’s DHS Troops

https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd...ps-dhs-troops/


Stan

Protect from what? If they are peaceful nothing happens to protesters. When start breaking the law then Trump troops take them away and arrest them for committing crimes. Common sense.

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 12:08 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 619334)
Protect from what? If they are peaceful nothing happens to protesters. When start breaking the law then Trump troops take them away and arrest them for committing crimes. Common sense.


Quote:

The veterans say they were inspired to join the protests after U.S. Navy veteran Chris David was repeatedly beaten with a baton by one DHS agent before being directly pepper-sprayed in the face by another.
U.S. Marine Corps veteran Duston Obermeyer attended that protest last Saturday with David and was part of Friday’s wall.
“We were attacked,” Obermeyer told the New York Times. “We decided that, based on the requirements of the Constitution–the Constitution and the oath we all took–we needed to be out here to ensure, and we contacted other veterans to be out here to ensure, our citizens did not have their right to free speech and their right to protest taken away from them by federal security forces.”

Stan

Mark Yacavone 07-26-2020 12:13 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619332)
‘Wall of Veterans’ Arrives in Portland to Protect Black Lives Matter Protesters from Trump’s DHS Troops

https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd...ps-dhs-troops/


Stan

This one gets a response. Dan Abrams ..not at all a big fan of Trump...On the record.
Other than that, as Jeff said..if they break the law by attempting to damage federal property, lock 'em up ..Really quite simple, isn't it , Stan?

Jeff Stout 07-26-2020 12:23 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619335)
Stan

A victim of circumstance. Hanging with
a crowd throwing frozen water bottles. Explosion fire works,blinding lasers you are taking a chance on getting hurt. Peaceful groups of protesters will not be harmed. When a few bad apples are in a group then the entire group could be at risk. You should e able to understand as in the demo world one bad cop means all cops are bad. Defund the rioters.

Randy Wells 07-26-2020 12:29 AM

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Stan how many of these so called veterans are really veterans, a lot of stolen valor from the left, and the Moms for BLM, I seen the video and pretty sure most those ladies in the video swing the other way, also when you have the leader of the hause calling the Chinese Flu the Trump Virus, nothing else needs to be said about how political this is. All I can say is thank god Trump is the president, or maybe not, if Hillery was President half of us would of never heard of the Covid 19

SSDiv6 07-26-2020 12:32 AM

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Wow! There are some unbelievable statements!!!

To those geniuses...I have some questions...

How can law enforcement prevent and stop these riots and destruction when the city councils, mayors and governors are defunding the police departments, to the extent that some want to eliminate law enforcement departments and give the oversight to unarmed civilians?

Due to the disrespect and defunding, New York, Minneapolis, Seattle, Phoenix and many other cities are seeing large amounts of police officers either quitting or retiring. As a matter of fact, due to the large amount of resignations and retirement requests, the police departments of Chandler, Tempe and Glendale Arizona have been told by their bosses that they may have to respond to calls in Phoenix because the reduction of law enforcement personnel. Who wants to put their life at risk for others if they are not going to be supported and made the culprit because a few bad actors?

As regards to the use of federal law enforcement agencies, educate yourselves on the Insurrection Act of 1807. It gives an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 so the President can suppress civil disorder, riots and rebellions. It has been used throughout the years by Roosevelt, Eisenhower, John F Kennedy, Johnson, Bush and many other president's before them. So why is only okay for other presidents to use the law and not our current one?

You guys have your panties wadded up believing what other liberal news media state say and write without doing any research. No matter what prosecutors may say, the President has not broken the law with the use of federal agents, it is the law.

Jeff Stout 07-26-2020 12:32 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Some how this thread got off track. Still looking for answer to why Bandimere cant open.

Mark Yacavone 07-26-2020 12:34 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619335)
Stan

I suppose this means something to The NYT but not to me. Who's next ? Portland Prius Drivers who smelled tear gas protest group?
Mr Vet fought for the right to destroy courthouses? If not, why was he on the front line?
See if you can find that in the NYT and get back to us...or just wait for the Don LeMon interview.

(yawn)

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 12:37 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 619336)
This one gets a response. Dan Abrams ..not at all a big fan of Trump...On the record.
Other than that, as Jeff said..if they break the law by attempting to damage federal property, lock 'em up ..Really quite simple, isn't it , Stan?


WASHINGTON — A federal judge in Portland, Oregon, entered a temporary restraining order on Thursday that blocks federal law enforcement officers from arresting or using physical force against journalists and legal observers as they respond to anti–police brutality protests there.


Stan

MR DERBY CITY 07-26-2020 01:14 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
This site has 15,300 members. So far WE have heard from 3 DEMS....Where are all the DEMS ?? Bandimere cant operate because of all the HYPOCRISY with the DEMS.....Our sport is being PLAYED by the DEMS....What’s Next ?????

Mark Yacavone 07-26-2020 01:30 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619343)
WASHINGTON — A federal judge in Portland, Oregon, entered a temporary restraining order on Thursday that blocks federal law enforcement officers from arresting or using physical force against journalists and legal observers as they respond to anti–police brutality protests there.


Stan

Yeah, so?
Like they really needed that R/O ..All that means is anyone with a camera needs to wear a name tag now.
Oh, and these are not anti–police brutality protests .They are Soros backed pro Fascist /anarchists trying to fundamentally change the country to their twisted desires. ...Learn it...Live it!

davidhuff 07-26-2020 01:47 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 619345)
This site has 15,300 members. So far WE have heard from 3 DEMS....Where are all the DEMS ?? Bandimere cant operate because of all the HYPOCRISY with the DEMS.....Our sport is being PLAYED by the DEMS....What’s Next ?????

The Democrat members are in Portland,Or. protesting against the STORM TROOPERS.LOL

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 03:13 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619294)
Sure, I'll stand up; I'm a Democrat and proud of it. I served this country for 4 years in the Navy during the Vietnam War era on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships. I gave 4 years of my life to have the freedom to support the political party that most closely aligns with my values. The last time I checked, I still have that freedom today!

Yes sir, you do. For now. Although it seems some voices are being shouted down and forced to shut up or pay the consequences, depending on who's attention you have attracted.

Might I suggest that the Dem party of today is vastly different from the days of Kennedy and even Clinton. Might I also suggest you look at what the Dems stand for, advocate for and what their vision for America really is. I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing you have a good understanding of who's running the show and what this country will look like next summer if Joe wins and his handlers are running the show.

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 03:56 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 619340)
Some how this thread got off track. Still looking for answer to why Bandimere cant open.

From Jefferson County Health - "There have also been inaccurate claims that events have been “canceled by JCPH.” We understand the community’s desire to return to the events that bring them joy, but stand firm in our mission as the health department to keep our community safe." Blah-blah-blah - same old BS.

While they may not have told Bandimere that they can't open, I expect that the restrictions and the confusion caused by a moving target makes it impossible to actually open, be legal and make a buck. A 175 person limit? There's been 10 times that amount of people trying to burn down Portland every night for 8 weeks, and the mayor is all about protecting the rights of the "protesters" to behave that way. But they are wearing masks.

Kind of like the clown show in PA. The Governor has graciously allowed the state to "open". But with the recent cooked numbers - I mean "surge" - restaurants are limited to 25% capacity. Many of the places that have actually tried to reopen have now said the hell with because it's impossible to operate under those restrictions.

"You can open, but you can't have any people" Liberal insanity.

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 10:23 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 619349)
Yes sir, you do. For now. Although it seems some voices are being shouted down and forced to shut up or pay the consequences, depending on who's attention you have attracted.

Might I suggest that the Dem party of today is vastly different from the days of Kennedy and even Clinton. Might I also suggest you look at what the Dems stand for, advocate for and what their vision for America really is. I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing you have a good understanding of who's running the show and what this country will look like next summer if Joe wins and his handlers are running the show.


And today's Republican party is not the same as Ronald Reagan's.


The Reagan Foundation has told the Trump campaign and RNC to stop using the ex-president's image



Stan

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 10:25 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 619346)
Yeah, so?
Like they really needed that R/O ..All that means is anyone with a camera needs to wear a name tag now.
Oh, and these are not anti–police brutality protests .They are Soros backed pro Fascist /anarchists trying to fundamentally change the country to their twisted desires. ...Learn it...Live it!


Yes they really did.



Stan

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 10:28 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 619345)
This site has 15,300 members. So far WE have heard from 3 DEMS....Where are all the DEMS ?? Bandimere cant operate because of all the HYPOCRISY with the DEMS.....Our sport is being PLAYED by the DEMS....What’s Next ?????


Maybe you actually posting factor and not ASSumptions ? :eek:


Stan

Bart Kilraine 07-26-2020 10:51 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Yep,the demorat controlled city of philly,good place to be far from.try crossing the bridges during the riots.I'd be leary crossing ben franklin going to Atco.....Like I posted two months ago ,you live in a dickheaded demorat state,you;re problably not racing this year.

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 11:11 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 619291)
First JACKAZZ to the front, Welcome Stan Weiss.....Would the other 7-8 Dems on this forum please stand up....LOL !!!!!!

The owner of this site makes the rules and how they are enforced, certainly his prerogative. I have read more than one post by the site owner threatening members that they will have their accounts deleted if they mention Covid19. Seems Teddy, Mr. Quinn and Mr. Wells have swollen testicles when the site owner has their back.

BTW Mr Quinn, The fact that you find even one Covid19 death humorous
speaks volumes.

I better stop, I prefer to keep my posting privilages if possible.

pS

MR DERBY CITY 07-26-2020 11:23 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619372)

BTW Mr Quinn, The fact that you find even one Covid19 death humorous
speaks volumes

pS

I
I see that you have finally crawled out from under your rock. I find NOTHING about COVID 19 humorous. I have LOST 3 friends from this horrid disease. As a matter of fact, I have been to as many races as you have this year.....0.......HUMOROUS is a GROWN MAN like yourself that feels THREATENED by my posts. I sincerely hope I didn’t hurt your FEELINGS this morning. ....LOL. !!!!!

MR DERBY CITY 07-26-2020 11:26 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619368)
Maybe you actually posting factor and not ASSumptions ? :eek:


Stan

DETROIT ......MEMPHIS.......BIRMINGHAM.......BALTIMORE.... ...FLINT.........ST.LOUIS........Is that enough FACT for you ???????

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 11:30 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
M.J., you should certainly know by now that liberals never let facts get in the way of a good story.

BRETV 07-26-2020 11:46 AM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Still so confusing to me that you Dems are so worried about saving all these lives now from Covid and you vote for abortion of living breathing human beings.Thousands killed everyday!!! Their the ones " THAT CAN'T BREATHE" Explain that? So tired of the nonsense and hypocrisy!!





Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 12:13 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
This article taken from that great bastion of liberal B.S..

https://time.com/5864803/oxfam-hunger-covid-19/

So, it would seem that not only do we get to lose a year of our lives but instead of being able to die a reasonably quick, painless death we now get to die a long, agonizing one......Not to mention those who will die fighting over what food will be left.

(How's that for fear-mongering?)

Mark Yacavone 07-26-2020 12:33 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619372)
The owner of this site makes the rules and how they are enforced, certainly his prerogative. I have read more than one post by the site owner threatening members that they will have their accounts deleted if they mention Covid19. Seems Teddy, Mr. Quinn and Mr. Wells have swollen testicles when the site owner has their back.



pS

First, the guy takes a shot at the boss, then at long time racers and contributors here.
Nice.
bS, what are you even doing here? Why don't you have Stan refer you to the Daily Kos forum, and quitting buzzing around here like a mosquito, and let the adults solve this problem?

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 12:41 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 619375)
DETROIT ......MEMPHIS.......BIRMINGHAM.......BALTIMORE.... ...FLINT.........ST.LOUIS........Is that enough FACT for you ???????


Boston Tea Party Damage. 340 chests of British East India Company tea, weighing over 92,000 pounds (roughly 46 tons), onboard the Beaver, Dartmouth, and Eleanor were smashed open with axes and dumped into Boston Harbor the night of December 16, 1773. ... The destruction of the tea was a very costly blow to the British.


This is the way this country was founded.


Stan

MR DERBY CITY 07-26-2020 12:45 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619372)
The owner of this site makes the rules and how they are enforced, certainly his prerogative. I have read more than one post by the site owner threatening members that they will have their accounts deleted if they mention Covid19. Seems Teddy, Mr. Quinn and Mr. Wells have swollen testicles when the site owner has their back.

BTW Mr Quinn, The fact that you find even one Covid19 death humorous
speaks volumes.

I better stop, I prefer to keep my posting privilages if possible.

pS

There is one recurring THEME in your DIATRIBE. You sure feel THREATENED an awful lot on this FORUM....Put your BIG BOY pants on SNOWFLAKE !!!!!!

Bob Smith 07-26-2020 12:47 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619384)
Boston Tea Party Damage. 340 chests of British East India Company tea, weighing over 92,000 pounds (roughly 46 tons), onboard the Beaver, Dartmouth, and Eleanor were smashed open with axes and dumped into Boston Harbor the night of December 16, 1773. ... The destruction of the tea was a very costly blow to the British.


This is the way this country was founded.


Stan

Terrible comparison and analogy to what is happening today! ...businesses (entire cities) being burned down by the Left, people (of all colors) being shot and murdered. Certainly quite different than the Boston Tea Party and worse than the loss of tea.

MR DERBY CITY 07-26-2020 12:53 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619384)
Boston Tea Party Damage. 340 chests of British East India Company tea, weighing over 92,000 pounds (roughly 46 tons), onboard the Beaver, Dartmouth, and Eleanor were smashed open with axes and dumped into Boston Harbor the night of December 16, 1773. ... The destruction of the tea was a very costly blow to the British


Stan

Nice try, but MJ doesn’t drink tea.....sweetened OR unsweetened.....

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 01:20 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 619373)
I
I see that you have finally crawled out from under your rock. I find NOTHING about COVID 19 humorous. I have LOST 3 friends from this horrid disease. As a matter of fact, I have been to as many races as you have this year.....0.......HUMOROUS is a GROWN MAN like yourself that feels THREATENED by my posts. I sincerely hope I didn’t hurt your FEELINGS this morning. ....LOL. !!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 619383)
First, the guy takes a shot at the boss, then at long time racers and contributors here.
Nice.
bS, what are you even doing here? Why don't you have Stan refer you to the Daily Kos forum, and quitting buzzing around here like a mosquito, and let the adults solve this problem?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 619385)
There is one recurring THEME in your DIATRIBE. You sure feel THREATENED an awful lot on this FORUM....Put your BIG BOY pants on SNOWFLAKE !!!!!!

Preach brothers preach...Y'all have the green light...Preach brothers preach...

pS

Mark Yacavone 07-26-2020 01:35 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619390)
Preach brothers preach...Y'all have the green light...Preach brothers preach...

pS

Oh we intend to... without you ,if we could be that lucky.

https://vimeo.com/70753317

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 02:09 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 619383)
First, the guy takes a shot at the boss,
Nice.


Honest to God Teddy, you're like the squealer in grade school that would tattle when kids would shoot spitballs at the teacher...sheesh


pS

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 02:32 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619384)
Boston Tea Party Damage. 340 chests of British East India Company tea, weighing over 92,000 pounds (roughly 46 tons), onboard the Beaver, Dartmouth, and Eleanor were smashed open with axes and dumped into Boston Harbor the night of December 16, 1773. ... The destruction of the tea was a very costly blow to the British.


This is the way this country was founded.


Stan

That was a protest against high oppressive taxes, something the Democrats are very vocal in their support of, but I digress.

So, in your mind, it's okay for a group of people - Marxists mostly - to decide they don't like this country or any of the things about this country that has made it great for the last 250 years. And then form a violent insurgency, riot, firebomb, attack local LE and federal officers, in an attempt to get the government, justice system, welfare system dismantled and rebuilt in the fashion they want, capitalism abolished, Constitution trashed and replaced by Socialism/Marxism?

BRETV 07-26-2020 02:56 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
So funny how they have NO answer to the abortions. So again Dems what life matters more?? Come on give me one of your answers that explains murdering one life over another. You have NONE!! Better wear those masks tho, you might kill someone!!






Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 03:26 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRETV (Post 619398)
So funny how they have NO answer to the abortions. So again Dems what life matters more?? Come on give me one of your answers that explains murdering one life over another. You have NONE!! Better wear those masks tho, you might kill someone!!






Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

Bret, it's not that they have NO answer, they don't WANT to answer. It won't benefit them for at least 18 years. BLM will (they hope) benefit them now.

Superfan1 07-26-2020 03:26 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRETV (Post 619398)
So funny how they have NO answer to the abortions. So again Dems what life matters more?? Come on give me one of your answers that explains murdering one life over another. You have NONE!! Better wear those masks tho, you might kill someone!!






Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

The answer is that you evidently believe that life begins at conception; and I believe that life begins at birth. You are Pro Life and I am Pro Choice; you have your belief and I have mine.
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy? Are you still against the woman's right to have an abortion?


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