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When someone tries to do something good or promote what is right and harmless,,someone steps in a destroys it,,ie,,the Confederate flag,and the statues,,but the sad part is we stand by and let it happen. We are getting very weak as a society and I am very happy that there are a few that have the initiative to promote the good and sensible that we need to continue to enjoy our great United States and the world as a whole.
It's gotten that a few are trying or are destroying beautiful places that good US citizens gave their lifes so us,,,GOOD AMERICANS could enjoy life with our families as we see fit.
I AM THE ONE WITH THE
TRUMP
PENCE
2020
On my Stock Eliminator 69 Camaro doors.
I'm not protesting or I'm not saying vote for our great,,and he is one of the greatest Presidents,it's just my way,,and I don't have big balls,of supporting a great cause.
It's really sad how our Country has gotten soooo weak and quiet as to not stopping the distruction of our great Country and the Constitution that so many people gave their lifes for.
My wife and I just want to live the rest of our lifes in a FANTASTIC Country that has so many wonderful things to offer,,including our great sport of NHRA Sportsman Dragracing.

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I'm afraid your right. We have a African american female chief of police and does not allow the nonsense to get out of control. I think she learned from Joe Arpio. I hope someone in council is strong enough as this is suppose to be 100% yes to move forward

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GOD bless America! Please!
We need it!

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I would not be so sure. Many of us still believe in freedom and freedom of speech .. I am very sure I would not be “ crapping blood“.

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Interesting

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Mr Bill I appreciate your common sense attitude and especially your service but from what I've seen many in the Democratic party have fallen for this pandering for votes and wanting to make everyone's feelings not be hurt. I grew up in a Democrat family and was one most of my life until a few years ago I switched my registration to independent. I don't feel like I left the party, they left me! I've voted the last several years with my heart and who I honestly thought would do the best job. I can appreciate everyone's point of view as I sure you can by reading your post here but too many people these days don't see it that way. Most have lost their sense of humanity and can't have a conversation about politics with someone of a different view point without calling them ignorant or uninformed. It's a sad situation for sure, as Mike said you would be welcome in my pit if we ever cross paths for sure and I promise you would have nothing but a civil conversation and a beer or three!

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Yesterday's rule book amendments included the following. Suppose we'll see how enforcement goes at BG:

The NHRA logo or name may not be used in conjunction with political
candidates.

If a race team legitimately is sponsored by a political candidate then the
candidate’s name and the year of the election may appear on the race vehicle

(but the vehicle will not be prominently featured/emphasized on television or in
other content, per broadcast standards and practices). Decal size will be limited
to 144 square inches on a race vehicle and 48 square inches on a motorcycle.

Location will be limited to the rear quarter panel of a race car, outside for the
driver’s compartment of a dragster and wheelie bar side shields on a motorcycle.
If a matter is deemed by NHRA not to be in the best interests of NHRA and the sport of drag racing, then NHRA will not allow such matter to be displayed or advertised on site or in connection with NHRA in any manner whatsoever. NHRA, in its sole and absolute discretion, may take any action, up to and including disqualification of a driver, for violation of this rule.
By way of illustration and without limitation, online gambling is an activity deemed by NHRA to be not in the best interests of NHRA and the sport of drag racing, and an activity that NHRA will not allow to be displayed or advertised on site at any NHRA event or in connection with NHRA in any manner whatsoever. Websites that allow gaming that is entirely free and for fun may be permitted pursuant to further guidelines that may be requested from NHRA. Violation of any part of any such guideline will be treated as violation of the NHRA Rulebook.

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They aren't messing with anyone's rights. It is a privilege to race at an NHRA event not a right, All NHRA events are on privately owned property and they have the right to enforce rules at that event.

If you dislike those rules the option is simply to not attend. Just like stores have the right to enforce mask rules

Ever heard of No shoes, No shirt, No Service? Same thing.

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The horror...




pS

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With all the bad grammar, caps lock and exclamation points I would have thought Trump himself wrote that.

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I guess great minds think alike then :)




IS this WHERE I'm supposed to APPOL0gize lol lol lolo lololololololol

And start a proteST AND **** EVERYTHING UP AND BURN **** DOWN THAT I USE Everyday IN MY LIFE and blame someone else for everything LOL LOL LOL

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This does not apply any more, the left has given every numbnut that wants to identify as a unicorn the ability to sue a business owner if they don't cave to someone else's beliefs!

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Knock off all this lousy demagoguery! A person would think this board is full of whining little Trumpets. NHRA can not by law or by its own charter engage in any form of political advocacy. NHRA must control every word on the grounds of it's race tracks to avoid losing its's not for profit status, and that includes what is written on the side of our cars. In my 72 years on this planet I have never seen such whining from grown men. Many of you guys are so damn paranoid that you can't understand that there are important rules that NHRA must abide by if it wants to stay in business.

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If this type of Cancel Culture keeps up well all be part of the CCP.

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And there are a lot of nutty radicals on the right too, I'm not one of them.

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And that from a man that wanted to sue them!!!

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NHRA, by the words "discretion", "deemed by NHRA" along with said discretionary choice, clarifies a biased position in favor of the cancel culture. I have no further questions.

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Huh?

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It's ok to knock the messenger but how about debating what I posted. Stay on topic.

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Kenny,
I respectfully request that this thread be moved to the Lounge or other.

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I believe that Bruce is correct, in that NHRA has the right to do this at their ballgame.
Now, the question is, will it include these fake, communist backed political outfits ,that try to disguise themselves as advocacy groups.. We shall see.
This is where Goodyear went wrong, and it cost them.

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Why now? It was just fine when you guys were having fun. What changed?

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I am not sure that an individual racer's promotion of his candidate of choice falls under the Department of Treasury's guidelines that you are referring to for non profit organizations. The Department of Treasury has provided some clarity on what they consider prohibited activities and I don't see where someone like Butner's car or anyone else would put their status at risk according to their guidance.

Please clarify within their guidance that you think their non profit status would be at risk or where this would fall.

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Bruce,
Check your PM.

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It does not matter. It is NHRA's playground and they set the rules. If you don't like it, play somewhere else.

Get your own racetrack. Start your own sanctioning body. Set your own rules.

It's that simple.

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I didn't suggest that or say it wasn't their playground to do as they wish. Read my post in context as to asking why it was stated "NHRA can not by law or by its own charter engage in any form of political advocacy." This was stated by Bruce and I asked under that parameter.

I am of the opinion they are doing it by their own choice (which they can) and it isn't due to a legal reason.

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You democrats that drag race can kiss your sport goodbye if Biden wins.Go find the new green deal.,if you can.It doesn't just cover petroleum products,it's a whole range of social changes.1984 is 36 years late

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Kyle,

A few years ago we did some research on this subject, And as I remember a 501(c)6 must declare, at the time they make application, whether or not they intended to do any additional lobbying other than for it's exempt purpose. I believe NHRA indicated they were only going to lobby for it's intended purpose. It will be forced to pay taxes if NHRA attempted to step outside of it's intended exemption. We all know how long and hard NHRA has fought to avoid paying taxes. NHRA also mentioned it's 501(c)6 status in it's memo. Of course, I am not a lawyer but I think Bo's political statement, or anything like it, would cause real headaches for NHRA with the IRS.

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The way it is going, we will have to take RFC off our cars so we don't hurt some POS snowflakes feelings.

Randy Wells
Wells Bros
C/SA
I/S

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Well, that's not really true. It's so you cannot deny service based on someone's religion or sexual preference. The "No Shoes, No shirt, No service" is a safety and hygiene issue, and nobody wants the sweaty/hairy guy in the grocery store without a shirt lol

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Nah most of us nonreligious types don't really care. In fact most of us support the idea of believing whatever you want.

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Then you should be alright with a Trump sticker on a race car. A Biden sticker on a race car wouldn't bother me a bit, it would tell me how ignorant the driver is thats it.

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Nope, a Trump decal would just tell me that I need to speak slowly to the driver and remind them which lane is the right/left when we are flipping for lanes. LOL I'm kidding obviously.

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Good Monday morning everyone from Beach Bend Raceway!! We made it to the 3rd round in Stock Eliminator,but it's going to be a long day,but that's Dragracing.
A final decision was made and rules are set on how or if we can show support to our President or any political party.
We made one pass Friday with our support proudly displayed on both doors of our Camaro. Shortly after the Division 3 director came over and,,, Very Professionaly" explained the new rules and our options on removing or covering up our,,"Larger than accepted" lettering. We decided to cover it up and today we will remove them,,but,,thanks to a visit from Mr. Bo Butner an amendment to the amendment was made in 24 hours that will allow 144 square inches on both quarter panels of support for an,,,"Individual" that we support!
Mr. William Tharpe,,Division 3 Director, was again,,VERY POLITE AND VERY PROFESSIONAL and made my wife Linda and I very comfortable with the decision that was made!!
Indy is going to be fun!!!

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Thanks for posting this Tim , good luck at INDY!!