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I try to roll coal every time a Prius pulls up next to me.

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winner!!!!!!!!!!

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You may never have to replace the brakes. In driving it I got use to letting the motor slow and stop the car.

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The Tesla Charging Station take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100% on the original 85 kWh Model S. Stop have lunch and drive on.

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5 minutes to fill up a car with gas and no government subsides.

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How is the electrical power being generated that is being sold and/or given away at the Tesla Charging Stations? Highly toxic solar panels or bird-killing windmills being driven by the wings of angels?

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I live in the Palm Springs area of SoCal, about 85 percent of the older homes, schools and government buildings have solar panels, new construction are mandated to include them in the price and the west end valley has over a thousand windmills and more being constructed. The fact that cadmium can be washed out of solar modules by rainwater is increasingly a concern but in my area, rainfall is less than 5 inches per year with almost no humidity. The internal combustion engine will go the way of the horse and buggy, the big three are already moving in that direction. The EPA is already taking steps to in Washington state and California with recycling programs to protect the environment.

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I have a 28 gallon on my truck, takes more than 5 min to fill it up and I have never had a NASCAR team come out and fill my tank. Oil Change International estimates United States fossil fuel exploration and production subsidies at $20.5 billion annually. At least, if you buy an EVA the state and Feds pays you via tax break.

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Made up of a hard-core group of left-wing intellectuals.

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I'm sitting here reading this and just shaking my head in disgust.....
I think that I sent you a PM about what goes into the thought process behind stuff like this.
Does this qualify as delusion, ignorance or stupidity?

I think that this afternoon I'll go dump some waste oil in my well.

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Oh, I feel much more secure knowing that.

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Feel same about nukes and coal.

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I remember when EPA poisoned the Colorado River. Pretty trust worthy group.

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Thanks for that info. I have 2 vehicles that suit me just fine for now. I have a 2006 Chevy Trailblazer that only has 65,000 miles, Very comfortable on trips and should last me about 8 to 10 more years with normal maintenance. Mid 20's for mileage on the road and no payments -it's mine. My other is a 2007 Kia Optima, was my wife's car, kinda hard to part with this one. It has over 150,000 miles is is basically trouble free. It gets mid 30's plus and is nice to drive. Again no payments - it's mine. I will stick with these vehicles until they need major work and then decide what to do. I am starting to put money away for their replacement, but that will probably be at least 5 years away. Just my 2 cents, but having fun anyway.

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Same here, just not ready to jump on the bandwagon. Took one for a test drive....impressive. As I mentioned earlier, my daughter loves it.

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And just how far can you go on a 50% charge? I don`t know about you, but when I gas up my truck, I don`t fill it to 1/2 a tank. Maybe you are fine with taking a 75 minute lunch breaks every time you need to charge an electric car (assuming that there is an available charging station waiting for you to arrive. Can you make a reservation in advance to secure a charger?) While you are knoshing on your gluten free, organic tofu quiche, waiting for your planet savers batteries to charge, I will be another 80-100 miles toward my destination.

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Now that is for real !! Bubski been in and out of power generation for years . Nothing is "free" Nukes got a little city to run them and the enormous toll on the earth in mining and processing fuel and the energy thats required !! not to mention the waste !! coal and gas aint no picnic either !! Wind and solar are WEAK !! Just like racing and life without getting "enhancements " for whining !! It is what it is for now and theres no way around it !! Until someone figures out how to plug an extension cord into the ground for "free" electricity !! Unfortunately energy comes at a cost !! Easy to point at pollution that the mainstream tells you!! and ignore the pollution hidden in the process !! Bubski would now like to enjoy his monkey poop, free range mocha latte !! And a small serving of Paleo snacks !!

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My daughter bought the extended range, 322 mile. The S model gets 402 mile range. Was reading an article where Tesla service stations are planned. In 15 minutes, you will drive in and the battery in automatically exchanged...plug and play.

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Eddie, thanks for taking the bullet for us closet EV owners...

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Have her check the range with either the heater or A/C on.

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I was a fork lift mechanic for 25 years. We had a fleet of 60 trucks, half gas and half electric. The gas (propane) trucks took about ten minutes to fill. The operators did it their selves. Had to take the tank off the truck, fill it, then replace the same tank they took off. The battery powered trucks were charged two ways. The drivers scheduled the recharge's around their break times and lunch, or between shifts. Or, if they ran out of electric during peak demands, they drove their trucks into our battery shop and we swapped out battery's. Took ten minutes. Sounds awful similar to me Eddie. Even with all the modern emission controls and management, those electric trucks were 10 times harder to work on than the gas powered ones. Their a complicated SOB. Your run of the mill mechanic is going to struggle. They rarely have issues and are quite trouble free, but finding intermittent drivability issues is a real challenge. I'm sure the factory's will get a handle on it, but there is most certainly going to be a learning curve, and the American public is going to be the lab rats ...

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Kind of like the good ole days when you pulled back on the reins and said whoa to stop and getty-up to go. Until that young fella, Henry, I think that was his name, came ago with the internal damnation called the horseless buggy. Ran the buggy people out of business and now we have all these useless horses and the crap to contend with....what is this world coming to.


Jeff, the only thing that I didn't like about the car was the size of the computer monitor, it was large and a little distracting. Comfortable seats, no center hump, lots of head room and too quiet, you actually hear the tires.

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Funny thing is, many of Henrys Motel T Fords are still around, 100 years later.You still see them in parades and at car shows every weekend in the summer. Even a few Detroit Electric and Stanley Steamers , you know, the "new" technology that was going to make internal combustion engines obsolete in the 1920s, can be seen in a museum now & then. I wonder how many of these Teslas, and other electric cars will still be on the road, in say, 15 or 20 years from now. Certainly a car that costs $100,000 to buy should be able to last much longer than a "normal" fossil fuel vehicle, right? Electric may be fine in the big cites, but now that I am living in a semi rural area, even a gas/electric hybrid, like a Toyota Prius is a rare sight to see, and in the 4 months since I moved, I have seen exactly ZERO Teslas, where they were a daily occurance in Vancouver. Long distances, hot or cold climates, hills and towing, all kill the claimed range of an electric car. Considering most on this site, (at least those that actually race a car), have a large truck or SUV , to tow a trailer hundreds or thousands of miles to race, I just can`t see electric making much of a dent. And highly unlikely that campers or RVers, criss crossing North America on vacation, will be happy to plug in an electric Winnebago for 2 hours, every 2 hours, on their way to Wally World.

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Talking about 300-400 mile range on a charge. I'm sure that's in flat states. Mountain states I'm sure that would drop in half. Spending a half hour in a charging station wouldn't fly with most. The wait time to get a charger should be interesting too.

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Technology will only get better as time goes by, we shall see.

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As for what happens when 30 Teslas arrive at the ten spots. The video from Thanksgiving weekend in California is still on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqEwLle8xKU

But if you plan ahead to expect miles long lineups and sleeping in your car awaiting your turn at recharging the next day it should be OK.

A friend works in the "Green Power" industry and has many stories of the ridiculous methods they use. Spending fifty million to develop fifty dollars worth of power is par for the course. Check how they actually dispose of the batteries and let us know if that will be an issue for the grandkids.

Then there is the safety issie of the cars themselves...

https://www.thedrive.com/news/28420/...ecall-in-sight

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As one of my favorite singer, songwriters once said, “ The times they are a changing”.

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I last towed a race car with a 4-WD 3/4 ton Suburban and an open trailer. No problem, towed with ease.

I have played with the idea of getting back into the game. Chances are that it won't happen, but never say never. IF I did it would be with a1 ton Dually pickup and a trailer with living quarters. What are the possibilities of having an electric pickup that could tow that trailer??? I can see me trying to pull into/or out of a charging station with that combo. Funniest home videos comes to mind.

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Ron, don't wait until you're old enough to regret it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

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Ford has an all electric F 150 prototype. They demoed it by towing 10 double deck freight cars 1000 feet. I'm as much a gas guy as anyone here and my house blows breakers on an air compressor so I'm not going EV anytime soon. Brian (T) says hybrid tech is good, but plug in has a way to go.

As far as the track goes for you, don't wait. Get or build a streetable racer like Al Young does with his Plymouth and run Sportsman. A Chevy wagon would give you sleeping quarters or tow a small trailer. I started towing a home built teardrop trailer to the track with my Mustang and went from there.

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Look up electric cars catching fire while charging. Then decide if technology is ready yet.

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Idiots in gas stations never catch their car on fire while fueling.

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"Idiots" manage to burn down their houses and choke on cheeseburgers too! Most go into politics. Maybe what humanity needs to do is eliminate "idiots".

Have you ever seen a lithium-ion battery overheat and burst into flames in a cellphone while it's in the owner's pocket? Or in a laptop while it's on the owner's lap? Or in an EV while it's going down the road? There's stuff like that all over the internet.
The point being, it's beyond the users control. If a person can "catch their car on fire while fueling", then "it's" probably something that they are doing and it probably has something to do with idiocy.

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FCA/Stellantis closed down the SRT division this past week, with its employees being moved into their respective "base car" groups from what I understand. I doubt we ever see anything like the Demon again :(

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1. Please get back in to the game!

2. I am sure you could find an electric truck to tow with, I doubt it would have much range with the trailer.

3. I am sure charging would be an adventure!

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I'm not sure if I should order my 2035 electric COPO to replace the 2019 yet. It ain't wore out, goes like hell and is the most fun I've encountered. Letric cars have their place but I hope the Gubmint don't shove them down our throat. If we could just let the people that need combustion vehicles do their stuff and allow the Letric stuff play by the same rules it would be OK. But I doubt it will play out like that. Gubmint don't work that way. Just sayin.........

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That will be the LAST time I ever buy a GM product !!!!!!

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Interesting read on the advancement of battery technology. An 80% charge in 5 minutes by 2023...


https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/...r-over-the-air

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You individuals that live in 70 degree temps year round need to come to South Dakota and make a customer trip of 300 miles in minus 10 degree temps with your lectric vehicle and we will see how far you get. Your heater will drain your battery/batteries in the first hour.

But, I will follow you with my trusty diesel and have my tow rope available to pull you to the next charging station, which is probably Sioux Falls, Rapid City, Aberdeen, maybe Mitchell. Dress warm!

You can keep you lectric vehicle. Thank you very much!!

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Curt Rees

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You guys are on your own with electric vehicles. I can see it now, lines extending for miles just to charge your battery at a charging station POWERED by a sooty, smoking diesel generator. Gimme a break........