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More than 15,000 members and only just over 200 voted. Come on people, let's see your vote on this so NHRA knows what the masses want. Remember they work for us!

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Keep the AHFS. Though the air sucks it's the place where it has the highest chance of working. The AHFS is FAR from perfect but it's the only thing we have. Too many soft combos that could use a little whacked off the top.

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It does not work because too many know how to manipulate the numbers and play the game.

Ron

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Yes But the 120 under will help Should get the hp. That was exsposed
No mulligans at Indy

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James with your way of thinking and Epping Nat having Stock Class. With the weather high of 74 on Friday and the track being Sea Level. It should be almost 2 tenths faster than Indy. We should have a bunch of 120 under runs. But we won't for the same reason you won't see it happening at Indy with the AHFS in place. For most of us it's not worth getting HP for a class trophy.
The majority of races have voted to not have AHFS at Indy. The majority should prevail. How don't you understand that. BP

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Whatever Barry. I guess it’s ok for people to go 120 with no penalties
Sure what’s the sense . Just let everyone do what they want.
No tear down anymore. No tech. Who cares. I see that’s fine
But back when Bill Hawk was abusing you guys running the 396/375 it was OK to have the 120 under trigger. Correct? Say it ain’t so.

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James I can't run with several fast cars especially the 2015 Camaro's. No where did I say the rest of what you said. It's my opinion to let Indy be the ONE National that there is no AHFS. At least Indy is one of the few races where there is a good chance if you do go fast enough you will be torn down. Or change the AHFS to reflect the improvements the cars have made in the last 20 years when it was first implemented. Have you seen the list of parts you can use now. It's not the same list that was there when the AHFS was started. BP

And James Bill's car with the specs it has should still be able to out perform the 396/375 cars. I laughed when I saw him pull an aluminum drive shaft out from under his 1967 stang. I doubt even the pro stocks had them in 67

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I think they should tell everyone theres no AHFS then do it so everyone gets caught up in their own BS.

maybe its about time to reindex the classes themselves.

I dont see the fun in having more car then youre supposed to. I think if they want to catch people up in stuff they should start teching the cars that are letting off before the finish in class or qualifying. pretty obvious when someone is running .8 under but at 20 less mph than everyone else in class somethings up.

WFO. run your damn cars all out thats what we built them for. at least i did.

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Another no name that wants to tell me how to run my car. Send me a check and I'll run it what ever way you want me to. Better yet you build one spend a bunch of money and hours working on it so an antiquated AHFS can render it a slower car when your already not the fastest in the class. How about they fix the system and bring it up to date.
Epping had some great air and there were several cars that could have gone faster than 1.20. A lot of 1000 foot racing again. Epping was about 2 tenth faster than Indy and no one went 1.20 under. Why does anyone think guys will go 1.20 under at Indy unless their combo is so soft the hit will not matter. BP

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What’s the point of building a combo if you don’t have one big race to go air it out? At first I was bummed hearing it was in affect this year….With that said I guess I’m also for it as a few cars could use a HP wack. So how ever it plays out we will work with it

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I would fair guess those with fast cars know their limitations. Well most do anyway. Some don't care about AHFS. Indy makes time for tear downs. Fast cars take good drivers to still hit the tree to avoid unwanted power added. Specially when class and heads up racing comes into play. Either way it makes for good racing in stock and superstock.
Both cars in the final of Epping found an extra 2 tenths when needed. AA/SA isn't the easiest class to run like they did. Hats off and Fun to watch!

Paul Haszlauer

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nhra should look at this poll and change indy back to no ahfs. the vote is in

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A truer statement has never been made... thanks!
Why have it at all if you are not going to use it.... especially at the biggest race of them all!

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For me Indy is about seeing our racing family from all over the country and beyond, some of whom I only see once a year and the excitement of heads up class racing. Working on the car all year trying to make it faster, prepping it before class runoffs and racing against the best/fastest racers in your class are what Indy is about. I have raced at Indy where I was sweating out the final qualifying sheet to see if I made it in to the other end of the spectrum where I’m pretty sure I can qualify. AHFS will never work if class is run as last year. In a competitive class with 5 or 6 cars tightly packed together some people simply made the decision to use the passes to just qualify and not prep the car for an all out run. The way class was run last year really took the luster off of Indy for me. A solution to the AHFS could be run class the way we have for the last 50 years excluding last year. If a race qualifies as a mineshaft race should it be mineshaft for everybody? Indy should be the one race where we let it all hang out, leave everything we have on the track. The poll indicates the racers wishes. If NHRA wants confirmation they could do their own poll of the class racers who have attended Indy.
Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

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2021 US Nationals AFIS. Has any new information about use of the AFIS system been decided? It is truly a shame to dum-down class racing at Indy.

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Has anyone contacted NHRA to see if they would even reconsider the AFHS for Indy? It appears a large majority would like it reconsidered, but is there a process to ask to even do that?

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If you think about the AHFS at Indy it will be no different at any of the races this year. The #128 qualifier will be at or about -.850 under the index, so the race will be mineshaft. At a mineshaft race you can’t help or hurt your average or trigger a review with two runs of -1.00 under the index. The only part of the AHFS that will be in play will be -1.200 under rule and the Monday morning adjustment. This will create a delicate dance at the finish line and increased front tire sales for the tire folks. An unexpected tail wind could be real expensive. The plus side is you may squeeze by the fast car if they think they’re going sub -1.20 under for the class win.

Bring your dancing shoes but don’t crash.

It’s Indy......... Go Fast Or Go Home!, I’m just reading what was on the drink holder.

C ya at Indy

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I believe to be a mineshaft the number 64 car needs to be .85 under

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At this time there are more stock and ss cars entered at the National event before and after Indy. Talked to a few people in Columbus this passed weekend and they felt the same way as me why was this done without getting the pulse of the guys that race Indy year after year.

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Larry it's Indy Go Fast but not faster than 1.20 and go home with more weight. BP

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1347 Please read the rules number 65 has to be -.850 under for a 128 car field to be mineshaft. Check the rules I could be wrong. As always two heads are better than one.

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You are correct Larry, my bad. You would think after it has been posted several times on here, even asking the scenario of the odd number field, I would get it.
I think I got it this time! Lol

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Yep 50% of the field Plus 1.
So 65 it is !!

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So. The 120 under hit will stand.
So you under factored rocket ships will have to use a condom and control your cars
Deal with it. Like at the Sports Nationals. Be careful
It’s the only way to even things out.
Good Luck to all.

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Indy will be mineshaft. Each racer that can go - 1.20 under needs to decide if the Class Win trophy is worth adding more lead to the trunk. This is a very simple concept.

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Isn't that what Indy is all about, winning class against the best in the business? Why invest so much time and money to have the fastest car in class if you're not going to use it. This is exactly why there shouldn't be AHFS at Indy.
I'm sorry but this washed up racer and keyboard jockey doesn't get. Right James?

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Epping was fast .Many cars could have gone 120 under. How many cars went 120 under. That would be NONE. So what got evened out. NOTHING. We are a performance based class. And yes Indy is fast in the morning. But just like Epping no one or very few will go 120 under. All the work and money spent to go fast is worth more to me than a trophy. . Good luck to all that are going. Me... I am staying home this year. Gary Parker

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Who wouldn't want to go to Indy and be the number one qualifier, win class and maybe be awarded best engineering or appearing? I would.

Winning the eliminator would be a bonus! LOL!

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I went last year with a possibility to win class, but the El Camino showed up. That took care of that idea. I am not going this year.

#5458

Curt Rees