Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 673290)

What happens when someone at NHRA sees this and decide that when the person that entered backs out no one can / will fill that spot?

Stan

Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 673286)

I'd argue that any serious competitor is going to use all 6 potential claims, but I'll stick with your 3 for now.

What does a serious points challenger from Divisions 1, 4, or 6 do when they do not have 3 in-division national events and the 'home division' racers are given priority at all other events?

There are no California racers currently entered in the Gators but I do appreciate a good strawman.

In reply to Daryl - unfortunately it would pretty much require a 'burn year' to acquire grade points before someone could seriously battle for a championship in most classes.

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 673299)

Actually it’s best 3 of 5 nationals for championship points. I was using California as an example. Typically at the end of the year if you are top 10 they make exceptions to compete for the championship. Most likely if you are a hitter and capable of competing for the championship you will have enough grade points to enter. I don’t get enough time off of work to chase national points. Although I have been top 10 in D2 the last 2 of 3 years. Not bad for an old man with a home built car.
I would have to check but i think most divisions have 3 national events

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 673287)

Just out of curiosity, where and when can "car owner" grade points be used for entries?

Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 673300)

Best 3 of first 6 national claims count for points except for TS and TD which are best 3 of 5.

For the last 4 national events, racers in the Top 10 are guaranteed entry as are racers in the Top 20 with a chance to get into the Top 10.

The 21 national events are spread around the country as follows:

D1: 2
D2: 4
D3: 4
D4: 1
D5: 3
D6: 1
D7: 6

I'll never argue that the current system has no flaws. It is more or less fair to the racers who support the series, and everyone should know the requirements by now. Every racer has a choice to do what is required or not.

Running a full schedule, whether divisional-only or national, is a huge commitment and I understand why some are unable or unwilling to do it. I just don't understand the constant bitching about it.

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673206)

Do you want to go to racing at NHRA National events but just don’t have time to get those pesky NHRA Grade points every year. Or are one of those guy or gals that try’s hard every year to get 8 but can only get 6 or 7 grade points by years end, only to get locked out of races like the Gatornationals, Reading or fall Vegas 90 days before the race even starts year after year. Then boy do we have the answer for you. Myself and a few of my competitor’s that are able to obtain 8 plus grade points each year will enter select national events in the stock or superstock in the class of your choice for only a measly $500-$1500 (prices vary by demand of each event) when each event opens at a grade 8.

This program (GPA) will give you the upper hand over racers with more grade points then yourself that are trying to enter when someone drops below the quote. So give me a call and don’t worry about checking the NHRA registration web site 5-6 times a day to see if a spot open only to be disappointed. Stop looking like a clown begging people to call you if there going to drop out of the event.

We at GPA don’t discriminate if you have 1 grade point or 7 your money is good enough for us. We are just here to help you achieve your dreams of participating at the highest level of competition the NHRA national event.

We currently have 3 of our 4 SS spots filled for the Gatorsnationals filled ($1000 each). First come first serve and currently all three of our stock Gatornationals entries are spoken for ($1000 each).
Disclaimer we DO NOT PAY YOUR ENTRY FEE.

But we do have a waiting list like if you would like to be added we only required a nonrefundable $100 deposit if the spots opens, and you don’t take it. And your deposit is part of the fee so its not like were taking an extra $100. If the spot doesn’t open the $100 is refunded.
We do offer discounts if you want to joint our frequent racer entry program. If you pick a min of 3 national events per season and pay in full.

Please contact myself for more information on the GPA and good luck to all those with 7 or less grade points this season. Remember you can’t win if you home watching on the computer.

Remember don’t hate us for putting this program together, blame NHRA for not caring about a problem that has been going on for years. Were just trying to help our fellow racers in need.
(maybe Hanley and Crutchfield can fix this issue lol)

Just remember the GPA slogan
Put your money where your grade points aren't

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 673306)

Okay Charley you had your fun. Folks this is not real, it's a joke. Some NHRA racers think this is real, ITS NOT! Charley likes to push peoples buttons, especially racers... SKT/SS to be precise.

Now Charley can come back at me and say... "Oh no Ken its real" but I call it BS. Anyone naive enough to think this is real needs a reality check.

One more thing Charley, you will be getting a bill in the mail, you can't advertise without compensation to Class Racer. Now you are in my business, and CRS wants its cut.

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 673296)

I'll race where I want .

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673313)

I do agree with herb I should be getting a discount on this sponsorship rate for clicks, I mean 6400 clicks and counting in 24 hours what is that worth?

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673319)

I’m waiting for a price

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673319)

I’m waiting for a price

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673322)

Maybe Kenny can do a class racer pole
To keep this thread or scrap it or better yet a pole to ban c bob or not. If I loose I will leave class racer forever

Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 673328)

Ken lets start to promote your race. I couldn't make it last year but with the new AHFS I will definitely be there this year. I know the first year the number for Top Stock was disappointing. But there were racers like my brother that raced at the first one to help me out running Top Stock. If your willing to bring back Top Stock I'll put up a grand towards the pot. As long as no Buicks Allowed. LOL only kidding on the Buicks. I think it was great to see Jason an company at your race. Were in NC do you live? I'm in the middle of moving to Richlands. Would like to talk to you about getting more sponsorship money for the race. Thanks BP

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673356)

What should bother you more is we pay $180-$200 entry fee for a points meet for NHRA to pay out $1000 (plus contingency lol). That’s what a 10-20% payback.

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 673359)

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 673359)

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 673372)

I'm talking about what NHRA gives you for winning