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Gary, thanks for the conversations. I have always sided with whoever is in office that supports organized labor... always. I have never voted for many Republicans for that very reason. You guys all know that. Organized labor was me and my family's standard of living. I don't want it to go away. And it will if left in the wrong hands. And I need healthcare. My medicine last month was 50 grand (I infuse myself). If the preexisting conditions went away, how would I pay that? I could live on welfare, let the Government pick up the tabs on Medicaid, but my standard of living would drop to what most welfare people have... nothing. They just exist. You think any sane person would voluntarily vote for that? I don't complain on how you vote. I don't accuse you guys of voting wrong. But keep in mind we all have different circumstances. Everybody votes their heart and let the chips fall where they may.

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So......... what you have just admitted to here is that it's all about you, your family and your lifestyle. Well THAT sounds awfully self-serving.

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You forgot about the part if I voted for Trump my wife would cut my nuts off. There's always that part. LOL

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I wonder how your wife would feel about Biden if she had been in in the position of his then 11 year old daughter.

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I wish you could talk to her on her feeling about Trump.. she would set you straight in about 60 seconds. If she could get close enough, I'm not so sure she wouldn't take him out. Man, she hates that guy. She just can't believe our granddaughter has less rights than she did growing up. This Roe decision set her off. And the way Trump randomly spouts about women on the rag or calling a foe "horse faced" or homely, or ugly, and on and on.... She says he treats women like zeros. Just is not her view of Presidential.

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Jeff, Thank You so much for the Sunday morning chuckles. I Love the Wangers …..

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No, she probably wouldn't.
I would be very careful posting stuff like that on the 'net.
Your granddaughter has the same rights that your wife has/had. Now (correctly) they are handed out by the States. Roe v. Wade was a Govt. power grab and nothing more.
I've always felt more comfortable dealing with a man who will speak his mind. Sometimes, the truth isn't pretty.
I guess that it's OK if the Biden's treat women the way that they do. As long as it's done "Discreetly".

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Jeff, since you were a big union member and supporter please explain how a National right to work would eliminate unions.
I live in Texas and as far as I know it is a right to work state.
There are lots of union shops in Texas so I do not understand how that happens.
Most of the things I know about Unions is the corruption and the thugs that run them.
One of many examples is what happened to Jimmy Hoffa.
I am not being critical of anyone who wants to belong to a union, I just think that is a personal decision and no one should be forced to join and pay into a corrupt system in many instances.
I have a friend who was in an independent union, as he explained it and he says it was great and I believed him. He retired early and enjoys a good retirement.
Just please explain if possible how a National right to work would eliminate all unions.
Thanks
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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Wow..I go away for a day to deal with Stock racing issues, and this thread blows up.

I'm not going to get involved with the minutiae of this sham trial, brought on by a corrupt prosecutor, and judge, who controlled what was allowed, and then gave the jury a roadmap on how to vote for a conviction.
This all with a resuscitated case of an alleged offense , in an election year, that has never been brought before, all in a district that voted 90% for FJB .

If this is accepted, God help our Constitution.
and God help those who think this is a good idea.

BTW, this doesn't help Biden with his problems at all.

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Typical libtard pap. Just what in the hell are you talking about?


Never mind

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show my mistakes, instead of insulting.

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You are a mistake, by even being on this site.
Trump is not the President. He didn't kill anything

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David,
The name calling and personal insults starts at the top (Trump) and some here just like to emulate that same bad behavior.

Stan

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just another baseless claim. what is next, are you going to call me a poopy face

tell all the dead people who followed his idea about not getting vaccinated

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KFF.org
analysis of CDC Data
April '22 deaths unvaccinated 41% vaccinated 59%
May '22 " " 38% " 62%
June '22 " " 38% " 61%
July '22 " " 38% " 61%
August '22 " " 39% " 61%

It seems that your numbers are a bit off!

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not in the slightest.

ven with widely available vaccines and newly effective treatments, residents of counties that went heavily for Donald Trump in the last presidential election are more than twice as likely to die from COVID-19 than those that live in areas that went for President Biden. That's according to a newly-updated analysis
2018

Deaths in the United States increased by 19% between 2019 and 2020 following the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in March 2020 — the largest spike in mortality in 100 years.
And deaths remained elevated in 2021 as the threat of the COVID-19 pandemic continued, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s July 1, 2021, population estimates.

2019

The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic resulted in 5,817,385 reported cases and 362,705 deaths worldwide through May, 30, 2020,? including 1,761,503 aggregated reported cases and 103,700 deaths in the United States.?

many people have not upgraded the vaccine to the latest version. my math is not off.

you really should do better research

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Never took the shot never wore a mask stayed employed through out the Chinese flu, got a cold in 2021 maybe it was the Chinese flu, lasted about 4 days. 68 years old and still kicking. You Libtards believe everything CNN tells you. One thing I have noticed about CNN, they sure push a lot of mental drugs, I don't see that on Fox news, CNN must be where the market is at for mental illness.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628

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I posted where my research came from. You can look it up.
All you posted was the increase in the death rate due to Covid between 2019/2020. You have no data showing unvaccinated vs. vaccinated so how can you make the statement "tell all the dead people who followed his idea about not getting vaccinated"?
Your math is not off, it's not there!

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that is now, what happened in the past,please cite yuor source so i camn see if is valid. did more people die in trump areas?

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I've already told you that I posted where my research came from. Why don't you try reading my post instead of just responding.

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you gave the website but not the article. what article.

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It's right on the very top of my post!

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nice mine quoting. a dishonest tactic. when you show the entire position it changes
There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated. New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths.
During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population. In other words, if 100% of people in the U.S. were vaccinated, vaccinated people would represent 100% of COVID-19 deaths. Similarly, as the share of the population with a booster rose somewhat during 2022, the share of deaths among boosted people also rose. COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur.
Indeed, vaccinated people now make up the majority of the population ? 79% of adults have completed at least the primary series ? and the latest CDC data show that vaccinated people also now represent the majority of COVID-19 deaths. There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes. That?s why, when CDC adjusts for some of these factors (age and population size), we still see that unvaccinated people are at much greater risk of death and other severe outcomes than people the same age who have stayed up-to-date on boosters. Older people are at greater risk for severe illness and death from COVID-19 than younger people, but vaccines and boosters still lower that risk substantially.

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Not only a Libtard, but a Faucied Libtard


Still here, and un-Faucied,...no heart attacks yet..

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and an ignorant person thinks he has the knowledge about a subject he is not educated in. when you get your degree, i will accept your position.

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David, do you actually read and understand what it is that you're posting?
If your post weren't so pathetic, it could be funny!
The way your post reads, if 100% of the population were vaccinated against covid then 100% of the covid deaths would be of vaccinated people. I have to agree with that but 100% of the population will never be vaccinated against covid.

The bottom line is if YOU want to get vaccinated then go for it! I've had covid TWICE ( the original and the new and improved). In fact, the first time that I got it, it was in January of 2020 and my Dr. didn't know what was wrong. He thought that I had a bad case of the flu! In May of 2020, I went for my yearly physical and was asked if I wanted a vaccination. When I told him that I had already had covid and refused it, he checked me for the antibodies and told me that I had more antibodies in my system than he did and HE had the vaccine!

I'll stand by my research and you spin it in any way that makes you feel good about yourself!

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i did, and it clearly said the reasons why. and like told mark. when you have an education in this area. i will listen to you. And i never claimed there would be 100 percent coverage. you did not actually read the reasons why. you are wrong on everything in this area. stick to cars

right here proves you did not read it go have your antibody percentage now. bet its gone or severely degraded. so you can be infected again. And if the avian flu starts infecting people, do not get the mrna vaccine. this is more deadly than covid

. COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur.

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Who cares what you accept?
What is your particular expertise? Copy and pasting from the far left Google? Listening to Fauci?
It surely isn't in Stock or Super Stock....and don't expect any help from the libbie 5% Squad here. They don't race either.

What a sorry bunch...

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I'm still wondering what having a racecar does with all this!

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So I am in Texas as well and consider Jeff a great friend. Even though I respect unions, the corruption that is in most of them will render for me ever working for a unionized work force. Look at what happened to the auto manufacturers, yes they got their big pay raises but guess what each tax paying citizen pays for that. We have worked beside a union contractor in refineries down here, we had a workforce of 150 people, they had 300 people for about the same amount of work, we completed the job 2 weeks sooner than they finished their work. So we spoke to some of them great folks by the way, by the time they paid their dues they were making less than our folks were. Now their retirement is incredible that is something that we do not get, however, we get much more work than they do, their bill rates are through the roof on what they charge the refineries, our rates are up their but they billable rate is almost 2 times our billable rate, and we are able to complete work 2 weeks earlier with half the people. Lets talk economics!

Again I respect the union folks and we had a great time, we even loaned them some tools that they did not have, we lent any help that we could, but do you think they did the same for us?

This country is so jacked up because of the last 4 years I am not sure that we can ever recover from it. We are sending Billions to our enemies, but wait that is our tax dollars. So one thing about these democrats is that if there is one crisis on the west coast they are over there scheming something. On Thursday Biden gave Ukraine permission to start send bombs into Russia and he did that while the news was focused on Trump! The misuse of tax payer funds is staggering, we are paying millions of dollars to study snail mating and butterfly mating!!

Then we have the idiots in department of energy selling our strategic oil reserves!!!!! The only use that is supposed to be for is war time, what does Biden do he releases a million gallons of gas so it will lower the gas prices .10!!! Biden is dirty and he has been dirty for over 50 years, you see the video of him 45 years ago explaining to the reporter that he is on the take and so are the rest of them. IT IS CALLED WE THE PEOPLE, I live in Texas like a few others on here, crime thru the roof, gang violence and so on because democrats want the illegals to come and vote democrat!!! I have signs posted on my property that read "trespassers will be shot on sight, private property" I am tired of walking into walmart and they speak over the pa in spanish then in english! I will never vote democrat and will never support unionized labor. That is my opinion and am entitled to it...FLAME AWAY!

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Duh, this is a Stock/Superstock site…As Yac said, the top 4 loudmouths don’t even race.. Never seen such a pitiful bunch that LOVES higher grocery / fuel prices ……

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MJ I tried to delete my post do fyi I have raced Top Sportsman, Super Gas & Super Street and alot of bracket racing throughout my years. I love racing and have retired from work and racing. If you could politely point me in the direction to delete my post. See I am a redneck that lives in a trailer park with my washer and dryer on the front porch.

And have I ever won a wally? No, always wanted to though.

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me neither,

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Your good……

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What it has to do with, is the fact that this is a racing site, where about 90% of the participants have a conservative ideology. We don't like liberal lawyers working with liberal homeowners who work together to get racetracks shut down..
We don't like liberals who try to have leaded racing fuels banned (as in Canada...you remember, I'm sure)
We don't like CA. on road regulations interfering with our off road racing.
We don't like ridiculous fuel prices ( see CA. and Bidenomics)

You know , Ken has been good enough to allow political discussion in the lounge because he knows people want to vent about our current economic situation, and how it affects drag racing.

Some of the 5% Squad are in the lounge only for their own personal agenda .Very few contribute anything meaningful to the rest of the forum.

Speaking for myself, I really can't stand liberals anyway. I've got a few Big D former union friends here ,and a few family members with TDS what I'm stuck with.
Other than them, I'm not going to sit here and be nice to liberals, while they and their Lib buddies screw up this country any more than the have already .
Clear enough?

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David, if you really HAD and understood my post you would know that I admitted to having covid twice. Not that it matters but my entire family except my father and I were in the medical field.
I've had covid in Jan. 2020 and in May 2022. I fully understand how antibodies degrade and how covid is constantly changing.
Like I said before, if YOU want to get vaccinated, go for it! I'll take my chances.

OBTW, I WILL stick to cars. Racecars particularly. If you don't have one then what are you doing pushing your liberal B.S. on a Racecar website? Let me guess, because you can?

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Mark,
My last post in Stock and Super Stock Tech has around 7 likes.

You seem to have a problem understanding that post.

I am thinking you just don't like me.:eek:

Interesting how Billy who I have almost all of my interaction in this thread with, has handled himself exemplary.

Stan

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wow, you went right to mark's logical fallacy. Mark used a logial fallacy called argument from popularity, And i was not aware that you hgad to be a racer to join this forum. can you show me where it says that. you were wrong on your stats so you just moved the goal posts.

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OK, let's see, YOU told ME to "stick to cars" on a site called classracer.com. It would seem to me that YOU are the one "moving the goal posts". YOU also just made it personal with that ("stick to cars") remark.

Again, until you can show me legitimate stats proving otherwise and not just spouting out numbers, I will stick to my research.

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my statement about sticking to car. you are an expert on that. you know more than i will ever know. what you are not is an expert on vaccines.
iuf you thought i was attacking you personally. i apologize, that was not my intention