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vette5148 11-27-2024 07:19 PM

Re: V8 vega
 
Had a 72 Vega wagon back in the early eighties with a 327 turbo 350 and a 8 3/4 Chrysler rear end. Bought the Hooker kit with mounts and headers. Was a really fun car to drive. Was one of the fastest cars in town at the time. I ran low a low 13 at the track with street tires and full exhaust. Sounds slow now but was a lot of fun. I worked at a machine shop and sleeved several Vega motors. My dad had a 73 wagon that was fully loaded for a Vega and he loved the car. My brother and I are still trying to find a Cosworth Vega that's in nice shape for a reasonable price. GM performance even had a whole section in the catalog dedicated to the Cosworth motor. I know the Vega wasn't the greatest car but the Cosworth could really perform for only 122 ci.!! Even some of the old POS'S still had some rare one's that are worth something!!
.Almost forgot. My wagon had a flat factory hood!

outlaw 11-27-2024 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vette5148 (Post 706157)
Had a 72 Vega wagon back in the early eighties with a 327 turbo 350 and a 8 3/4 Chrysler rear end. Bought the Hooker kit with mounts and headers. Was a really fun car to drive. Was one of the fastest cars in town at the time. I ran low a low 13 at the track with street tires and full exhaust. Sounds slow now but was a lot of fun. I worked at a machine shop and sleeved several Vega motors. My dad had a 73 wagon that was fully loaded for a Vega and he loved the car. My brother and I are still trying to find a Cosworth Vega that's in nice shape for a reasonable price. GM performance even had a whole section in the catalog dedicated to the Cosworth motor. I know the Vega wasn't the greatest car but the Cosworth could really perform for only 122 ci.!! Even some of the old POS'S still had some rare one's that are worth something!!
.Almost forgot. My wagon had a flat factory hood!

Back when I had the Vega I wanted to paint it gold and black like a cosworth. I never went for a ride in a cosworth but always thought a stock Vega engine was a terrible running engine. The Vega guy always said they were great engines after being sleeved but never heard one run after that being done.I remember while installing the sleeves thinking I?d much rather be spending my time improving something other than a Vega engine.

1320racer 11-27-2024 08:49 PM

Re: V8 vega
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 706158)
I never went for a ride in a cosworth

I did, it was a POS.

1320racer 11-27-2024 09:00 PM

Re: V8 vega
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vette5148 (Post 706157)
My brother and I are still trying to find a Cosworth Vega that's in nice shape for a reasonable price. I know the Vega wasn't the greatest car but the Cosworth could really perform for only 122 ci.!! Even some of the old POS'S still had some rare one's that are worth something!!

you're not trying to hard!

Step right up and buy this great example of a POS whose "performance" was

0 - 60 mph: 7.7 sec
1/4-Mile: 16.2 sec @ 85 mph
100 mph: 34.5 sec

WOW :rolleyes:

https://www.classicautomall.com/vehi...vega-hatchback

Billy Nees 11-28-2024 08:31 AM

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0 - 60 mph: 7.7 sec
1/4-Mile: 16.2 sec @ 85 mph
100 mph: 34.5 sec

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wasn't slow in 1975-76.

jimmyparker 11-28-2024 09:39 AM

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Billy, Jim Cassels had a Cosworth sometime in the last decade or so and wondered about its potential in what I think was V/S or so. He opened up the exhaust, took it to South Georgia and it ran within a few tics of the index, bone stock other than the exhaust.

I tuned in to see what was being said about the V8 conversions but i saw a picture of a big block engine in what looked like a F body or was it a Vega?

vette5148 11-28-2024 10:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 706169)
0 - 60 mph: 7.7 sec
1/4-Mile: 16.2 sec @ 85 mph
100 mph: 34.5 sec

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wasn't slow in 1975-76.

Car and Driver said that 7.7 sec was the fastest of the year. They also said that it's balance was excellent. You have to remember what cars were like at the time. Also a sleeved one would run real nice and could easily go 100,000 miles or more if you didn't live in the rust belt!!

Billy Nees 11-28-2024 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyparker (Post 706172)
Billy, Jim Cassels had a Cosworth sometime in the last decade or so and wondered about its potential in what I think was V/S or so. He opened up the exhaust, took it to South Georgia and it ran within a few tics of the index, bone stock other than the exhaust.

Hi Mr. Parker! Ya know, another prominent Racer was talking to me just a couple of weeks ago about doing a Cosworth Vega! Coincidence?
It's a T-U-V car, stick only. Probably the hardest part about doing the car (other than the parts it would take and the car itself) would be getting enough gear in a 12 bolt without having to resort to short tires which might cause traction problems. Maybe a Dana 44?
Maybe an under-drive trans?
If it were done correctly, it would probably fly!

rsalemi 11-29-2024 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 706180)
Hi Mr. Parker! Ya know, another prominent Racer was talking to me just a couple of weeks ago about doing a Cosworth Vega! Coincidence?
It's a T-U-V car, stick only. Probably the hardest part about doing the car (other than the parts it would take and the car itself) would be getting enough gear in a 12 bolt without having to resort to short tires which might cause traction problems. Maybe a Dana 44?
Maybe an under-drive trans?
If it were done correctly, it would probably fly!

Billy
I have a 5.89 for a Dana 44 sitting in the garage - if that project ever happens!

1051 stk Bob Salemi

Stan Weiss 11-29-2024 12:31 PM

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I got a 12 bolt with a 5.86 just rusting and collecting dust..


Stan

Alan Roehrich 11-29-2024 07:25 PM

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They were not cheap, but a while back there were TWO Cosworth Vegas down here, one running, one not, both in decent shape, last price was $4500.

Billy Nees 11-30-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 706239)
I got a 12 bolt with a 5.86 just rusting and collecting dust..


Stan

I'm not certain (I haven't done any math) but I'm pretty sure that a Cosworth Vega would need a lot more gear than that.
But I'll keep that 12 bolt in mind.

Jeff Niceswanger 11-30-2024 12:06 PM

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Brother John and I both had Vegas back in the days. He drove his 1 1/2 hour each way to work. I drove mine 1 hour each way to work. His was a 4 speed oil smoking 75, mine was a 5 speed non-oil smoking 76. GM sleeved that motor for the 76-model year to solve the aluminum block oil issues. You talk about a tail wagging event driving those cars in deep snow! Always put studded snow tires on but the only thing going for them was the lack of HP. That actually helped them a little in the snow. Mine went 125 thousand before the body was about to fall on the ground from all the salt used on Ohio roads. Johns went 50 or 60 thousand before he got tired of feeding it oil. One of my best friends (we still to this day do music trivia every Monday night at a local pub) had a 350/370 HP out of a 70 Corvette in his. Never forget driving that thing. It did NOT handle those speeds very well. All engine, no chassis. But that was common back then. Kronenbitter back halved it in the late 80's and now its a local bracket car here in Ohio. It's for sale, lol

1320racer 11-30-2024 12:11 PM

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Thanks for proving my point that it was a POS.

Stan Weiss 11-30-2024 01:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 706272)
I'm not certain (I haven't done any math) but I'm pretty sure that a Cosworth Vega would need a lot more gear than that.
But I'll keep that 12 bolt in mind.


Bill,

That rear has basically just been seating for many years. Today when someone was picking up some parts, he saw it and ask if it was for sell, and now it is gone.


Stan

outlaw 11-30-2024 03:33 PM

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Seeing how I’m the op guess I can ask another question. How many people on here have meet Ed in person on this site and if so is he the same in person as on the internet? I traded a few punches with him on another thread then decided I’ve never meet him so I was going to stop talking bad about him and I’ve read other places he’s ok in person. I think he just likes jerking your chain for replies but maybe he’s just a jerk. With everyone that dislikes him on the internet I’d think he’s purty funny looking in person wearing his azz for a hat from it constantly being punted up there. Seems he always wants to make every thread about whatever the subject is and him.
Terry

Lenny5160_v2 11-30-2024 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 706287)
Seeing how I?m the op guess I can ask another question. How many people on here have meet Ed in person on this site and if so is he the same in person as on the internet? I traded a few punches with him on another thread then decided I?ve never meet him so I was going to stop talking bad about him and I?ve read other places he?s ok in person. I think he just likes jerking your chain for replies but maybe he?s just a jerk. With everyone that dislikes him on the internet I?d think he?s purty funny looking in person wearing his azz for a hat from it constantly being punted up there. Seems he always wants make every thread about whatever the subject is and him.
Terry

I met him at Indy a couple years ago, and we had a decent conversation.

I?m not much of a fan of the online persona, but don?t think I?ve ever gotten into it with him either.

MR DERBY CITY 11-30-2024 09:57 PM

Re: V8 vega
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 706287)
Seeing how I?m the op guess I can ask another question. How many people on here have meet Ed in person on this site and if so is he the same in person as on the internet? I traded a few punches with him on another thread then decided I?ve never meet him so I was going to stop talking bad about him and I?ve read other places he?s ok in person. I think he just likes jerking your chain for replies but maybe he?s just a jerk. With everyone that dislikes him on the internet I?d think he?s purty funny looking in person wearing his azz for a hat from it constantly being punted up there. Seems he always wants make every thread about whatever the subject is and him.
Terry

Although I have never met E.D., I would bet everything in my wallet that he is a FAT Fuch…..He sure is proud of his ( ) car…..

340Cuda 12-03-2024 12:20 PM

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While I have seen many nice V-8 Vega's on the street, drag and drive and on the strip I had a friend that said GM named them a Vega because they vaguely resembled a real car.

James Perrone 12-03-2024 03:58 PM

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Ed?s the same dik in person as he is on the internet
But we are friends
He can?t help himself on the internet
No manners required

outlaw 12-03-2024 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 706387)
Ed?s the same dik in person as he is on the internet
But we are friends
He can?t help himself on the internet
No manners required

Thought so but I’m still going to stay out of arguments. If Dragnet ever makes a comeback I’m voting Ed for sergeant Friday nothing but the facts!

1320racer 12-03-2024 08:46 PM

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James, I'm no more a dik than you are, we have strong opinions, we're not afraid to speak our minds and don't care who doesn't like it. That said, we go back a long time from the Island Dragway days and I'd like to think we're still friends.

1700camaro 12-04-2024 12:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 706387)
Ed?s the same dik in person as he is on the internet
But we are friends
He can?t help himself on the internet
No manners required

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 706396)
James, I'm no more a dik than you are, we have strong opinions, we're not afraid to speak our minds and don't care who doesn't like it. That said, we go back a long time from the Island Dragway days and I'd like to think we're still friends.

James, I haven't met you in or Ed in person. I don't find that you're being a dik on CR. The few posts we've both interacted in like the Willing To Hold...Again thread. I found you respectful. I also glanced over a year of your posts. I found you respectful there also.

If a person is being a dik, they earned how they get treated back. ;)

1700/781L :)

Terry Drinkwater 12-04-2024 09:39 AM

Re: V8 vega
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 706121)
doesn't work for me with the stock radiator hose and inlet housing.

https://i.imgur.com/qP31PfGl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FwXYFPjl.jpg

Ed, that is tight, but it sure looks nice!

1320racer 12-04-2024 10:22 AM

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Thank you. Tight is fine when everything fits just right. It requires a well thought out plan and execution. The devil is in the details.

Ty Kwaiser 12-04-2024 07:40 PM

Re: V8 vega
 
Just noted this thread tonight and had a good laugh. In 1980 one of my best high school buddies swapped a 265 horse 400 SBC and powerglide with his older brother's help into a 76 hatchback Vega street machine-style with a 12 bolt and 4:11 gears. Hooker Headers with Thrush glasspacks hanging low and Gabriel air shocks. Slotted ET mags on Cooper 70 series bias plys on the back, skinnies on the front. The car was an absolute riot off the line and would smoke the tires like a 60's top fueler but stopping and turning was definitely white-knuckle. Great times and great memories...

dragracerray 12-06-2024 03:20 PM

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I've never seen it done this way.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/42WUzvWg4Pb4dQUi/

Merry Christmas, Ray

monte385 12-06-2024 04:27 PM

Re: V8 vega
 
Bugley is always so cheerful, wonder if he's still playing with that E Jr. dragster.


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