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1320racer 12-29-2024 10:22 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
once again, mr. desk top dyno, a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day, has decided again, to reply only to comment about me.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.

Billy Nees 12-29-2024 11:14 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 707271)
You can spend lots of money on "state-of-the-art" heads and an intake. Depending on your cam and combo choice, I've found no difference between solid and hydraulic lifters and stock and roller rockers from a performance standpoint but that could be the combos that I'm using.

Wrong again Ed! I think that I answered his second question rather well! Unlike your first post which didn't answer any of the man's questions at all. It only told him how expensive it has gotten. Does anyone tell you how to spend your money?

1320racer 12-29-2024 11:58 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
you say I'm wrong because you don't have the coin to field a competitive stocker that can win a championship in stock eliminator today. Meanwhile the stock eliminator racers I'm friends with aren't happy just to show up and maybe win a round or two, No they show up chasing the championship with cars that are capable of winning a championship and they have the driving skills to do so.

Frank Castros 12-29-2024 12:12 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Ed.

Post this quote of mine;

"You're a douchebag"

Stan Weiss 12-29-2024 12:17 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707324)
you say I'm wrong because you don't have the coin to field a competitive stocker that can win a championship in stock eliminator today. Meanwhile the stock eliminator racers I'm friends with aren't happy just to show up and maybe win a round or two, No they show up chasing the championship with cars that are capable of winning a championship and they have the driving skills to do so.


Now we have a clear difference between you and me. Back when I did race I was nowhere near the fastest, but I did my own work, built my own engines, rebuilt my manual trans and setup my own rear ends. It looks look you and yours friends just write checks. To each there own. But that is not what racing is for me.

Stan

Billy Nees 12-29-2024 12:35 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707324)
you say I'm wrong because you don't have the coin to field a competitive stocker that can win a championship in stock eliminator today. Meanwhile the stock eliminator racers I'm friends with aren't happy just to show up and maybe win a round or two, No they show up chasing the championship with cars that are capable of winning a championship and they have the driving skills to do so.

No, I said you're wrong because you're wrong. And this^^^^^^ has nothing to do with the questions asked.

But since you've brought up the subjects, I don't ever remember discussing my financial means with you. I'm comfortable enough to do whatever I would want to do and I don't have an EGO that big.

I've said on many threads before, "I'm not going to spend $100,000 to make $2,000. THAT isn't very good financial advice, not that I asked you for any.

Now, as far as the "stock eliminator racers you're friends with", instead of putting words in their mouths why don't you ask them to give me a call or post on here (they're all members here) and let THEM tell me what they would think of my chances of winning a championship if I decided to do so. Unlike you, they know what I'm capable of if I decide to do something. I'm pretty sure that I still can figure out how to put together a competitive Camaro of Nova, I've got a few. But you see, I'd have to BUILD it myself so that when I win in it I can claim ALL of the accolades. Not like you!

1320racer 12-29-2024 01:26 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Billy, when was the last time you won a Divisional in Stock Eliminator?

When was the last time you won the Division championship in Stock Eliminator?

When was the last time you won a National Event in Stock Eliminator?

That said, you get no more points, no more $, no bigger Wally for "building" your car if/when you win a race then the guy that paid someone like Tom Goldman who liked your reply, to build their car or the guy that bought a brand new DragPak, Cobra Jet or COPO.

Billy Nees 12-29-2024 01:31 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707330)
Billy, when was the last time you won a Divisional in Stock Eliminator?

When was the last time you won the Division championship in Stock Eliminator?

When was the last time you won a National Event in Stock Eliminator?


2004 or 5 I won a couple
1993
1994

What does this^^^^^^ have to do with anything? I'll ask YOU the same questions, YOU not your son.

Face it Ed, YOU'VE never won anything in your life. You're nothing but talk. And entertainment. I guess Kenny likes that.

1320racer 12-29-2024 01:38 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
That has everything to do with this thread, you haven't won shyt in 2 decades because you don't have the car(s) nor the skills to win anymore, Stock has changed since 2015 as the OP asked and it's nothing like it was 20 years ago and you should know that better than me and many others.

WRONG Billy, I've got big checks on the wall of my trailer with my name on them and everyone is more $ than you've ever won in a race!

That said, I've never competed in stock eliminator and never will but my son may and IF he does, it's not a question of IF but when he wins the championship because I will build/buy the best tool for the job for him to compete and he's got the skills at both ends of the track. I can see it now, the haters lining up along the fence watching him turn on the win light in his 1st final in stock eliminator whether it be a divisional or national event.:D

This is a young man's game Billy IF winning races and championships are the goal and it requires money and a 100% effort.

Stan Weiss 12-29-2024 02:00 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 707331)
2004 or 5 I won a couple
1993
1994

What does this^^^^^^ have to do with anything? I'll ask YOU the same questions, YOU not your son.

Face it Ed, YOU'VE never won anything in your life. You're nothing but talk. And entertainment. I guess Kenny likes that.


Billy,
It is a different world. This has been talked about here before. Ad revenue. Google looks at site traffic / clicks, and doesn't care if the traffic / clicks is generated because some nothing clown posts up bad advice and opinions.


Stan

1320racer 12-29-2024 02:07 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
says a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.

Billy Nees 12-29-2024 02:09 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 707331)
Face it Ed, YOU'VE never won anything in your life. You're nothing but talk. And entertainment. I guess Kenny likes that.

I've done what I've done, I'm proud of it, I've moved on to other things and I don't have to do it again.

Ed, you're a joke. Just entertainment.

Tell Joe Sorenson that this is a "young man's game".

GUMP 12-29-2024 02:14 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707336)
says a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.

The way you constantly respond to him comes accross as a SERIOUS MAN CRUSH....

Stan Weiss 12-29-2024 02:30 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 707338)
The way you constantly respond to him comes accross as a SERIOUS MAN CRUSH....


LMFAO


All he is doing is coming on here, and vicariously living through his son's achievements.



Stan

GUMP 12-29-2024 02:49 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 707339)
LMFAO


All he is doing is coming on here, and vicariously living through his son's achievements.



Stan

I honestly wish that you would both pack it in

Ed and his son seem to have done well as a team. I wish my Dad had been more involved in my life.

james schaechter 12-29-2024 02:59 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?v
 
Well Ed Bigley, if you are trying to hurt my feelings, that isn’t going to happen.

I have won at a National, Divisional level, set records, won class many times, etc.

There have been years that I have been fast and years I have been slow.

I have not qualified at Indy and have been near the top in qualifying.

I have had my rear end handed to me and beat world champions.

It happens to mere mortals like myself.

As sportsman, life circumstances don’t always allow us to be at our best.

The best part of racing on top of the great competition and satisfaction of going fast and winning rounds are the many lifelong friends I have gained.

That sticks with my memory much longer than the many trophies in my spare room collecting dust.

Remember Ed, someone doesn’t always have to be wrong so you can feel right.




QUOTE=1320racer;707308]Jim, I'm smart enough to know that a guy that can't past 2nd round in both classes either can't drive or both his cars are junk![/QUOTE]

1320racer 12-29-2024 03:04 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Well james schaechter I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, merely stating the truth and the facts about your program which needs work, a lot of work. I suggest you spend less time here commenting about me and more time focused on fixing the many things that keep you from winning!!

That said I haven't spend countless hours in the shop, on the road and at the track, along with weekends away from my family and over $500K in 3 decades to make "life long friends"! We go to the track to WIN races and championships and as Gump has rightfully acknowledged, we have done well!

MR DERBY CITY 12-29-2024 03:12 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 707325)
Ed.

Post this quote of mine;

"You're a douchebag"

FINALLY, we are getting somewhere…..

1700camaro 12-29-2024 03:25 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 707325)
Ed.

Post this quote of mine;

"You're a douchebag"

That doesn't support his fragile ego! The "douchebag" comment is the REAL TRUTH.

1700/781L :)

james schaechter 12-29-2024 03:28 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Clearly, I hurt your fragile ego and feelings and for that, I am sorry. My apologies.

You have nothing to win on this forum and you aren’t looking for friends.

It isn?t to share your vast class racing experience and knowledge because you have none.

Making a 500 inch firebird 60 foot like an 500 hp SSIA isn’ t anything to be proud of.

Why hang out here and drive a wedge between people just like you have on every other forum you trolled?




QUOTE=1320racer;707342]Well james schaechter I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, merely stating the truth and the facts about your program which needs work, a lot of work. I suggest you spend less time here commenting about me and more time focused on fixing the many things that keep you from winning!!

That said I haven't spend countless hours in the shop, on the road and at the track, along with weekends away from my family and over $500K in 3 decades to make "life long friends"! We go to the track to WIN races and championships and as Gump has rightfully acknowledged, we have done well![/QUOTE]

1320racer 12-29-2024 03:43 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
james schaechter get over yourself, you couldn't hurt my feelings on your best day which based on your pathetic performance this season on the track, ain't ever coming!:p

Stan Weiss 12-29-2024 03:50 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 707340)
I honestly wish that you would both pack it in

Ed and his son seem to have done well as a team. I wish my Dad had been more involved in my life.


Interesting you single me out.

How about the other 6 or more people in this thread that are having the same problem with the same person.

This thread is just microcosm of how one person can and has screwed with many.

Stan

1320racer 12-29-2024 03:53 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
says the clown that derailed this thread starting at post #9, a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.

james schaechter 12-29-2024 03:59 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707346)
james schaechter get over yourself, you couldn't hurt my feelings on your best day which based on your pathetic performance this season on the track, ain't ever coming!:p

Haha. Pretty clear I did old boy.

The minute NHRA allows keyboard classes in Stock and Superstock, I will start looking for you on the q sheet .

Mike Gray 12-29-2024 04:02 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Time out - While I get another beer and make more popcorn! LOL

David Lee 12-29-2024 04:09 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 707350)
Time out - While I get another beer and make more popcorn! LOL

no one should do anything to their car or any other subject without asking him for permission

1320racer 12-29-2024 04:10 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 707349)
Haha. Pretty clear I did old boy.

The minute NHRA allows keyboard classes in Stock and Superstock, I will start looking for you on the q sheet .

clearly NOT!

and it's you that should be hoping the NHRA allows keyboard classes, maybe though highly doubtful you can get your junk past the 2nd round.

Billy Nees 12-29-2024 04:24 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707342)
I haven't spend countless hours in the shop, on the road and at the track, along with weekends away from my family and over $500K in 3 decades to make "life long friends"! We go to the track to WIN races and championships and as Gump has rightfully acknowledged, we have done well!

And you're proud of this?
Spending "countless hours in the shop" cleaning things doesn't count!
Is your family encouraging you to go away?
$500K, you didn't get your moneys worth.
Your son has done well. You keep paying the bills and hogging the limelight.

1320racer 12-29-2024 07:17 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
I got my monies worth, spending the past 19 years racing with my son, teaching him everything he knows, coaching him to the pinnacle of our sport and we have won more than anyone that liked your comment, including YOU and we ain't done!

Rory McNeil 12-29-2024 09:13 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
[QUOTE=1320racer;707293]I've got the cars, the Wallys, the Championships and the BIG checks to backup my advice and opinions! You and the other clueless old man have none of them!!

Ed, curious what all those Wallys, Championships, and the Big Checks that YOU claim that YOU have won, were for. A quick search of Ed Bigley on Drag Race Central, seems to show that the biggest credit to you is for losing in the 1/4 final of Pro Bracket at the 2013 ET finals. I thought that you actually had to WIN races to get a Wally, or a "Big Check", or does NHRA hand out Participant Walys and Big Checks nowadays? I suppose that it is possible to potentially win a Championship without winning a final round, if you go enough late rounds, but unless DRC is missing a lot of information, other than that one 1/4 final in Pro Bracket over a decade ago, didn`t see anything better than a 3rd round loss for Ed Bigley on DCR. Please clear up the confusion of how your obvious greatness , in winning all YOUR Wallys, Championships, and "Big Checks", somehow was omitted by DRC.

ChevelleStocker 12-30-2024 05:53 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Glad I found an option to ignore a certain user, that being 1320racer. This place just got so much better.;)

Frank Castros 12-30-2024 10:11 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
In the past Ken would curtail these "conversations" fairly quickly.

As it's become so toxic I can't help but think why he hasn't put an end to this?

Virtually every post has been hijacked by Ed's vitriol and has polluted our once great forum.

1320racer 12-30-2024 10:27 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 707359)
Virtually every post has been hijacked by Ed's vitriol and has polluted our once great forum.

Wrong, stop lying!

There are currently 20 threads on page 1 of this forum of which I have replied to only 5 of them, which is 25%, a far cry from “virtually every post” and 3 of those 5 threads I replied to ran their course without being derailed by the vocal minority of which you are one frank, that only reply to comment about me, my opinions and advice.

You are part of the problem not part of the solution. You too only replied to this thread to comment about me, not to offer your opinion, your advice to the OP!

If we remove every reply about me starting with #9, this thread runs its course and falls by the wayside without much interest.

Take note also that my original reply, post #7 was Liked by
chopperloco and James Perrone

So you see frank all your and others cries for moderation, more to the point for 1320racer to be banned, are your and the rest that only reply to a thread to comment about me, doing because you and a few others don’t like my opinions, don’t like my advice because I don’t compete in stock eliminator.

J.R. Haddad 12-30-2024 11:27 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Ed, I don't think anyone dislikes your advice because you don't compete
in Stock or Super Stock. For all we know, some of your advice might be
warranted, or could almost be appreciated. The problem is asking about it
or showing how some results are different, brings on such an overreach of
name calling, character assassination, and emotional outrage, that people
find it easier to ignore you, than discuss what might be valid help. Your years of Racing, and running a former S/S car, might lean towards people
wanting your advice. However, I think most are afraid to get involved.
Personally, when I need an *** whopping, I just ask my wife if she put on a few pounds.

J.R.

MR DERBY CITY 12-30-2024 11:33 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
[QUOTE=1320racer;

So you see frank all your and others cries for moderation, more to the point for 1320racer to be banned, are your and the rest that only reply to a thread to comment about me, doing because you and a few others don?t like my opinions, don?t like my advice because I don?t compete in stock eliminator.[/QUOTE]

No, we do not like you because you are a CERTIFIED AZZhole ….

1320racer 12-30-2024 11:36 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Oh they don’t and the “name calling” goes both ways and starts with them, refer to post #9 then post #14. here. Some might not know the history but I assure you it started with them. We also have people posting here who’s only reason for being here is to comment about me.

Alan Roehrich 12-30-2024 11:40 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 707359)
In the past Ken would curtail these "conversations" fairly quickly.

As it's become so toxic I can't help but think why he hasn't put an end to this?

Virtually every post has been hijacked by Ed's vitriol and has polluted our once great forum.


With all due respect, Frank, and I like you.....




Stop.
Talking.
To.
Him.
Period.
Just.
Stop.


Otherwise, it never ends. Ever.

1320racer 12-30-2024 11:53 AM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
I like you Alan but he can’t, won’t and neither will the others and it’s not talking they do, it’s comment and name calling about me, my opinions and my advice.

Again…

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 707359)
Virtually every post has been hijacked by Ed's vitriol and has polluted our once great forum.

Wrong, stop lying!

There are currently 20 threads on page 1 of this forum of which I have replied to only 5 of them, which is 25%, a far cry from “virtually every post” and 3 of those 5 threads I replied to ran their course without being derailed by the vocal minority of which you are one frank, that only reply to comment about me, my opinions and advice.

You are part of the problem not part of the solution. You too only replied to this thread to comment about me, not to offer your opinion, your advice to the OP!

If we remove every reply about me starting with #9, this thread runs its course and falls by the wayside without much interest.

Take note also that my original reply, post #7 was Liked by
chopperloco and James Perrone

So you see frank all your and others cries for moderation, more to the point for 1320racer to be banned, are your and the rest that only reply to a thread to comment about me, doing because you and a few others don’t like my opinions, don’t like my advice because I don’t compete in stock eliminator.

Stan Weiss 12-30-2024 12:52 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 707365)
because you and a few others don?t like my opinions, don?t like my advice because I don?t compete in stock eliminator.


Wrong, stop lying!



It is because at best they are misleading and at worst flat out wrong!!!!!


Stan

1320racer 12-30-2024 12:53 PM

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 
AGAIN, the clown that derailed this thread starting at post #9, a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day has replied again to comment about me.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.


So to put a bow on and wrap this thread up, the OP asked for advice and opinion and I replied offering mine and this is the list of those who did NOT reply to the OP, rather replied to my opinion and advice…

Stan Weiss who started the derail
David Lee
67 Post GS
James Schaechter
Frank Castros
Gump
MR. DERBY CITY
1700camaro
Rory McNeil
ChevelleStocker


Billy Nees gets honorable mention because while he did offer the OP his opinion in post #6, once I posted my opinion in post #7, everyone of his replies after that was directed to/about me.


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