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paul i love the fact that you are trying so hard to figure this out but i was there when my dad and uncle ray brought this car home and you could see where it said charlie castaldo on the car, it also had shadows on the driver side window from where lettering was with a name but i cant remember what it said , i remember the car having a red or maroon paint on it, i also had a customer that lived down the street from my shop in fishkill plains named tony _______? italian, dark hair, receedeing hair line, glasses, 5'8"-9" that was a parts manger at a dodge dealership near peekskill?, he used to help on charlie's car he came and looked at the car and said yes it was definatly the car, the car we had had the stock hemi wheel openings, i wanted that dart so bad for my first race car !!!!!!! i think they sold it to tim for like $6500.00, i have been going through box after box of pictures at my dads house and cannot find any pictures to document what car we had and i know we took plenty of them when the car showed up and after paul pittman painted it white.

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Paul
I talked to Chuck a few times and met him twice. At the Hemi Reunion he was able to drive another Hemi Dart down the track - he said when he pulled 2nd gear the owner, in the passenger seat, about fell out of his seat!. Chuck told me that he ordered an automatic car but when he picked it up they gave him a 4-speed - he said he always raced it as an automatic though. Chuck's car has not surfaced but it is rumored to be still around - stored in a garage - I have gotten this from 2 sources and they both knew specific things about the car that makes me belive that they are not BSing. Dell and I have identified 70+ of the original owners of the 83-4 Hemi Darts that were supposedly built. I know some purists insist that there were only 50 cars made but I have paperwork from Dick Maxwell ordering 30 additional Darts to be built after the initial 50. I am putting together a list of Darts that are missing and crossing out the known 4-speed cars and cars that were changed to 70 models fro P/S (many were) and see what we have left. My guess is that the car was not originally from the NE but I could be wrong. Does anyone have any ties to the Manhatten Speed Shop to find out about the Dart that was run from there? I know of another Dart from PA that was not raced by the original owners and sold to someone in NY - they took a check, it bounced and they repo'ed the car - it had been raced and the engine was blown. This car is currently accounted for but I have wondered if the Manhatten Speed Dart was the same car as it appears that it had only been run for short period of time. Jimi, I hope that you are able to find some pics of the Dart when your Dad bought it - this could help.
Mark J

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Jimi,
I noticed that your Mom? had some pictures posted on the Dover Dragstrip site of Tony Chickory's Dart. If you find any other Dart or Barracuda pics could you post them also?
Thanks,
Mark J

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http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2...fseligmann.jpg

First time I've ever seen one of these in Stock!

M68

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Are we sure we don't want to change the name of this thread to;
Mysterys, Myths and Misconceptions..
This thread looks like an Italian Kitchen.
Many hands stirring the wooden spoon in the Pot-Of-Sauce (or as some
say; Gravy).
At least in the end, the Sauce will be perfect.
More to come.
Bill Rodik on your post #171 and Mopar68, what are you doing adding a
nice Jewish-boy like Jeff Seligmann to this thread. Oy vey, we need
some Bagels this morning...;)
Paul C

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Well, since the Seligmann car was from your general area, I decided to throw it in. Looks like his drag racing career was short-lived!

As far as the "Italian Kitchen" scenario, what better way to stir the sauce a bit more than to add a shot I took of Carmine Rotunda at E-Town at the beginning of the Pro Stock craze. All I can say about the fashion in vogue at that time is "Yipes Stripes".

Bill Rolik

P.S. That is Bobby Yowell with his back to the camera.

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Paul, I like your sense of humor. :D

M68

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JIMI "V",
Only good intentions here. Just trying to figure out where the 68' Dart
my father had for a brief period ended up. I am trying to back-track all avenues, including the Mystery Mount Kisco car. Can't put my finger on it,
but one of these Dart's may have been at Bill Davitt's shop on Adams Street, Bedford Hills for a short time (75' or 76'). I was there alot during that time picking-up or dropping off cylinder heads (foreign stuff).
I'm really going out-on-a-limb. Can't be sure.
Paul

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Mopar68,
Had to add a little humor, to break-up the monotony.
Bill Rodik, on post #197. Are you sure, that looks like Gregg Allman with the long blonde hair, talking to Sonny, Elvis Pressley's bodyguard.
Thank You, Very Much:)
Before more Hemi stuff. I forgot to add. Yes, Jeff Selligman. Ran at
Dover, same time as us. Back in 70' or 71' that car ran in J/SA, while we were in K/S with the 273 Cuda. The Valiant was about 120 lbs. lighter,
and ran in one class lower. In 72' it was re-classified to K/SA, we went up to L/S. That photo in (National Dragster) must be from 72'.
Jeff had an speed parts store in Danbury, A & S Performance. Also, liked food, alot of it. Nice guy, very large. If I recall, the car ran around 14.50's or so. Won quite a few trophies at Dover, no competition in that class. Only a 66' Belvedere 383/275HP 2-barrel (12.00 - 12.49 wt/hp
factor). Not too many of those 67' 273/235HP cars made.
PC

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It is definitely Bobby Yowell, and not Allman, Johnny Winter, Edgar Winter, or Ted Nugent (The Motor City Madman). I have photos of his car from that day (I wonder if he still has those pants hanging in the closet). And I think this may have been the time period when Brooklyn Heavy was involved in various race activities. I had heard a story about a match race at E-Town (as part of the two cars on time trials), with Carmine driving, against another group, winner take all. The rules of the race were "No Rules". Apparently, when both cars were staged, Carmine left before the tree started down. I was told that the interpretation of the "No Rules" meant that there was no need to wait for the green. As far as I know, the loser paid off.

You are right, this has nothing to do with 68 Hemi SS cars, but since I have no more vintage 68 photos to post, I had to "stir the sauce" some more! LOL!

Bill Rolik

1514 SS