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randy wilson 12-13-2013 10:12 AM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Hey Joe. I've been around for 58 years, and you can write the rules however you want. But let me explain. No counter wts. Less chance of someone going clutchless. No vac pump? Save $1,500 dollars. Same for everyone. It ain't like I have one, and no one else does. Also, I did one at 10.5 lbs. per cube in 08, that would run 9.80 's at close to 138 mph. A 750 cfm carburetor is rated at 750 cfm. An 850 cfm carburetor is rated at 850 cfm. A 950 carburetor is rated at 950 cfm. As far as the wt. have an 8 lb. class at 2700 lbs. I really don't care. He asked for my ideas, and I gave them to him. Pardon my *** all to hell. You write your version, and send it to him. Speed ain't going to sell this class. Competition is.

joespanova 12-13-2013 10:44 AM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
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Originally Posted by randy wilson (Post 412348)
. No counter wts. Less chance of someone going clutchless. No vac pump? Save $1,500 dollars.

I guess I just assume everyone is like me if they use a clutch assisted trans..............I would not use my Nash clutchless. I may add a little CW if I pull the base down enough.........but still clutch assisted.

If I'm building an engine and I'm buying pistons from "whomever" and have a choice I'm going skinny and low RT. The added cost is "neligible" . The vac pumps are avilable for around $700.00.
http://www.gzmotorsports.com/CPVK102...-pump-kit.html
and I still dont understand this? 1 750, 11 lb. 1 850 10 lb. 1 950 9 lb.
Remember , a-holes , opinions and the old saying.....:D

And YES , speed will sell this class..........I can't understate that point and we definately don't agree on that.

randy wilson 12-13-2013 11:04 AM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Let me get this straight. You don't understand what a 750, 850, and 950 cfm carb is? I very much doubt that. If we want all the current bells, and whistles, there's comp. Like I suggested, send him your version. I don't want, or need to have my way. It was just a idea. Speed doesn't sell super gas, or super comp. More people will watch the SS\K class run off at the class nationals then that stuff. Also, if you want to pull 20 plus inches of vac, you will have a star pump or an equal.

Dick Butler 12-13-2013 12:08 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Randy, didnt get out of town before had to go to work (short one employee).
Your ideas and mine are very similar. No Vac, No exotic stuff. The Heads up racing will be the attraction of the class And CHEAP. Thought an index can be assigned to this class so it can compete in SS at Points meets till it gets strong enough to be separate. I would allow Automatic with Brake if possible and give a 50 lb or so wt reduction .

Todd Bailey 12-13-2013 12:11 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and we have this great site to express them. I don't agree, however, that speed is the driving force of this proposed eliminator. I would MUCH rather watch Robin Brown's Chevy II than a Top Sportsman car. I truly believe that the attraction will still be the high RPM's coupled to a stick shift. Randy is just throwing out ideas on a class. Keep the ideas coming in because it has to start somewhere!!

joespanova 12-13-2013 12:47 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
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Originally Posted by randy wilson (Post 412359)
Let me get this straight. You don't understand what a 750, 850, and 950 cfm carb is? I very much doubt that. If we want all the current bells, and whistles, there's comp. Like I suggested, send him your version. I don't want, or need to have my way. It was just a idea. Speed doesn't sell super gas, or super comp. More people will watch the SS\K class run off at the class nationals then that stuff. Also, if you want to pull 20 plus inches of vac, you will have a star pump or an equal.

It's your connection with weights at CFMs.....go back and look at the way you listed them:confused: So your saying an 11lb car runs a 750? 850' s a 10lb car? I'm even dumber than I thought. Why do you need 20 inches of vac?:confused:
Thats right , speed doesn't sell Super gas , Super comp or Super street....and thats about the WORST form of drag racing there is........personally , if thats all that was ever left for drag racing I'd run away from the hobby as fast as I could .

joespanova 12-13-2013 12:51 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Bailey (Post 412369)
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and we have this great site to express them. I don't agree, however, that speed is the driving force of this proposed eliminator. I would MUCH rather watch Robin Brown's Chevy II than a Top Sportsman car. I truly believe that the attraction will still be the high RPM's coupled to a stick shift. Randy is just throwing out ideas on a class. Keep the ideas coming in because it has to start somewhere!!

I have to "qualify" my comment........
Speed within reason.......is what I'm suggesting. This racer is about as much "Modified Production" influenced as any.
My "speed" parameters would be cars running 9.0s to 10.50s. Thats it , the end.

randy wilson 12-13-2013 01:19 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Hey Joe. I just took it for granted that everyone knew I was talking about CFM. Sorry. Don't stop with your suggestions. People may like them better then mine. Also, you don't need 20 inches of vac, but if you let me, and 100 others have our pumps, we will damn sure have 20 inches of vac. I own 2 complete Star systems, and hire one of the best block prep men in the world, and all my motors pull between 19, and 20 inches. Most people with a pan vac, doing their best, will struggle to pull 4 inches of vac. Just keeping it simple. I was just stating that these are all things we can do without, and would make the $1,300 dollar rings less advantagious. I'm just throwing this stuff out there. I AIN'T trying to take over, just relaying ideas.

Mike Taylor 3601 12-13-2013 02:21 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
What about high side rev limiter? no 2steps 3000 lbs is light by modified standards was'nt that many modified cars under 3000 lbs. My Dad had H/G camaro 292 sbc 3810lbs was what it had to weigh.
Mike Taylor 3601

Ed Wright 12-13-2013 02:24 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
The old IHRA Super Mod class rules were simple enough, cheap enough to build, easy to tech, and fun to run.


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