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Camarob859 12-14-2019 01:32 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 603847)
Local tracks have bracket racing for you.

So is it that you guys don’t want low buck racers in stock or what?

DG7050 12-14-2019 01:47 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarob859 (Post 603849)
So is it that you guys don’t want low buck racers in stock or what?

Nope, I think most of us want to maintain an element of performance in our racing. Stock/Super Stock combo's have a pure bracket race format and I must say, it loses some of the excitement you get from the chance of a heads up run. Heads up/ no break out class racing is very exciting, but it's nice to have the dial in regular eliminator to expand the opportunities for fun. Stock and super stock get the best of both worlds. It's the only class in nhra that has both heads up/no break out and dial in racing.

Myron Piatek 12-14-2019 07:35 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DG7050 (Post 603850)
Nope, I think most of us want to maintain an element of performance in our racing. Stock/Super Stock combo's have a pure bracket race format and I must say, it loses some of the excitement you get from the chance of a heads up run. Heads up/ no break out class racing is very exciting, but it's nice to have the dial in regular eliminator to expand the opportunities for fun. Stock and super stock get the best of both worlds. It's the only class in nhra that has both heads up/no break out and dial in racing.

Sounds like some of the "seniors" (as in "established" racers) don't want the freshman to play on "their" fields unless they can afford the expensive toys right off the bat! Top qualifying positions, records, class eliminations and the potential for heads-up in regular eliminations isn't enough?

Gee, where have I seen this scenario play out while growing up?

It would be interesting to know:

* How long it took the "fast" racers to be able to qualify consistently in the top 1/2 of the fields. (Hard to establish a number because of the varying indexes & records throughout history.)

* How many haven't been able to maintain it over the years.

* How many tried, both with and without the resources, but couldn't make it and quit.

* How many quit after the last .3 hit?

This will go on forever, but the final say will be from NHRA.

Mike Jones 12-14-2019 07:42 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Pick your combination wisely and have fun. If not, have fun anyway. Who knows how much longer before big changes come from NHRA, regarding sportsman racing.
Merry Christmas
Mike A114

B Parker 12-14-2019 08:46 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 603856)
Sounds like some of the "seniors" (as in "established" racers) don't want the freshman to play on "their" fields unless they can afford the expensive toys right off the bat! Top qualifying positions, records, class eliminations and the potential for heads-up in regular eliminations isn't enough?

Gee, where have I seen this scenario play out while growing up?

It would be interesting to know:

* How long it took the "fast" racers to be able to qualify consistently in the top 1/2 of the fields. (Hard to establish a number because of the varying indexes & records throughout history.)



* How many haven't been able to maintain it over the years.

* How many tried, both with and without the resources, but couldn't make it and quit.

* How many quit after the last .3 hit?

This will go on forever, but the final say will be from NHRA.

Myron I don't know of anyone that is an active racer that is in favor of lowering the index's. I'd just like to see the AHFS catch up to the ET improvements that Stock and Super Stock have gained in the last 15 years since the system was implemented. No James putting Indy in the 120 under mix again would be just another race that the AHFS game would be played. BP

Ed Wright 12-14-2019 08:50 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Some of us old codgers build our own stuff. Not everybody qualified in the top half wrote a big check for their engine.

Adger Smith 12-14-2019 11:00 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Nice Ed... Esp the "Old Codgers" part!

Sean Cour 12-15-2019 12:41 AM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 603862)
Some of us old codgers build our own stuff. Not everybody qualified in the top half wrote a big check for their engine.

Uh huh.

Glenn Briglio 12-15-2019 09:50 AM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 603870)
Uh huh.

Yes it"s done by some........... the soft factors help

Barry Polley 12-15-2019 12:28 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
Moving the index will not help the runaway advertised...hp factor train. Until they roll back the bogus hp factors the problem stays. I guess brushing up on writing skills is cheaper and easier to go fast. I can’t fault the folks who did it but it is a loophole that needs addressed and quickly..


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