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Paul Ceasrine 06-12-2011 02:30 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Has anybody located photo's of'

George Byers Sons
Columbus, Ohio

A large Plymouth dealership in Columbus, Ohio
Hemi Barracuda SS/BA
car driven by Slim Howard

Raced alot a National Trail Raceway (Ohio)
Match raced Arlon Valnke in April 1969
Vanke 10.77 @ 131.57 SS/B
over
Slim Howard in George Byers Sons SS/BA Barracuda
10.89 @ 129.85

Paul

Paul Ceasrine 06-13-2011 11:10 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Hemi-Head

John Macey 'Heads Up' 68' SS/BA Barracuda was out of
Bridgeport, Connecticut.

John was sponsored by Harris Auto Sales out of
Providence, Rhode Island.

John won about 12 Super/Stock Eliminator events at
Dover Drag Strip in 1968.
June thru October.
Pretty much 10.85's @125.

Beat Charlie Castaldo's (SS/B) Dart more than a couple of times.,

PC

mopar68 06-14-2011 02:59 PM

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http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1102/maxhurley01.jpg

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2576/rayrixman.jpg

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2447/sdodge.jpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8...epeddler01.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5070/sspeedshop.jpg

M68

Paul Ceasrine 06-14-2011 05:09 PM

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M68,

Great find.

Preston Honea and the original SS/BA
Ray Rixman Dodge out of St. Louis, Missouri.

The Bill Flynn SS/B Dart.
Looks like the Super Stock Magazine Nationals at
New York National Speedway July 1968.

Great scores.........;)

marfen 06-15-2011 11:24 PM

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M68...wow great rare pics.
We saw an unrestored LO23 down in Minnesota, Gold Digger. anyone remember that one?

mopar68 06-16-2011 06:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 263748)
M68,

Great find.

Preston Honea and the original SS/BA
Ray Rixman Dodge out of St. Louis, Missouri.

The Bill Flynn SS/B Dart.
Looks like the Super Stock Magazine Nationals at
New York National Speedway July 1968.

Great scores.........;)

Thanks Paul, I post them as I find them.

M68

mopar68 06-16-2011 06:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 263986)
M68 do you have anymore photo's or info on this 68 Hemi Dart. Heard it was based out of Minnesota and sold at White Bear Dodge, another story I heard was WBD or the owner picked the car up in Detroit. Anyone with additional info would be helpful.

HM,

I found that photo here:

http://northwoodsimages.com/Drag%20S.../frameset.html

Sorry, can't help you with the details; perhaps this fellow can:

"These are photographs I took in 1969 and 1970 at Minnesota Dragways in Coon Rapids, MN while I was their photographer and ambulance attendant."

http://northwoodsimages.com/gallery3...php/Drag-Strip

Later,

M68

GARY JACOB 06-16-2011 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marfen (Post 264027)
M68...wow great rare pics.
We saw an unrestored LO23 down in Minnesota, Gold Digger. anyone remember that one?

Was it a green dart? If so I remember him from running at Milan. The guy was from Ohio. I'll have to dig up his name. Jake

Nitro Joe Jackson 06-16-2011 07:01 PM

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the Bob Reed Dart was not a orginal Dart as he bought it from Larry Buckingham and it had a 440 in at that time. The Car later went to Tueton as the Cajun Flyer and now is owned by Joe Faherty.
Here is a picture of it right after Bob got the car running and its still painted blue

marfen 06-17-2011 01:13 PM

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Re Gold Digger. yep she was green, nice original car.

mopar68 06-23-2011 03:53 PM

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Cool pix, Hemi Moose!

http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/2...driverside.jpg

M68

Casey Miles 06-23-2011 03:54 PM

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There was on '68 dart named RamRod out of Northport Long Island, the owner was Joe Armor. My brother and I went with him to Islip speed way, he had also a 64 or 65 Hemi Belvedere. I know that Joe worked with my brother at he big speed shop in Bethpage, Grumans. I think the story went that he got the car becaue someone else reneged on the deal and the car sat at the dealership. That's all that I can remember.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

mopar68 06-23-2011 04:11 PM

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http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/488/charliecastaldo.jpg

M68

mopar68 06-23-2011 04:36 PM

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A couple more shots from the 1968 Springnationals.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1122/landydarts.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2383/hustlinhemi.jpg

M68

Casey Miles 06-24-2011 08:35 AM

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The Speedwin Automotive was the Dart that I remembered, it was owned I believe by my brother's friend Joe Armor, he got tied up with Speedwin. If you look closely at the front fender there is "RamRod" the name of the car. The way the story went is that Speedwin was the machine shop for the engine, the original engine was sold to a fire company's race truck. Speedwin built Joe another engine and it siezed going through the traps, at that point Joe gave up the racing. If I have it wrong, I was a kid at the time and didn't understand the politics of what was going on. The car was fast, when we took it to Islip Speedway, it was the fastest car there. It had trouble stopping at that track.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

mopar68 06-24-2011 08:42 PM

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Some heretofore unseen Hemi Darts...at least by yours truly. Any info appreciated.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4466/april2010393.jpg

http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/7...ril2010394.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7964/april2010395.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2...ril2010396.jpg

M68

Paul Ceasrine 06-25-2011 03:29 PM

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Pete,

Original Hemi Darts,,,,,,,

Top two photo's of previous post (#824)
SS/B Dart
Jerome Williams out of Cleveland, Ohio.

Later was a Hall & Williams partnership.

Third photo is;
Denny Kilbane 'SS/BA' Dart
Kilbane Dodge out of Strongsville, Ohio (outside of Cleveland)

Also, Mr. Ed SS/B Dart (post #799)
That was Ed Knesevitch out of Columbus, Ohio.

Notice;
Ed put on the GTS stripe kit that was put in the trunks of
all the Hemi Darts that left the Hurst facility.

That car was purchased by Tony Chickery (out of LaGrangeville, NY),
near me.
Tony bought Mr. Ed in mid-1970 out of an ad in the National Dragster.
All for,,,,,,,,,,,,,
$5500

pc

Paul Ceasrine 06-25-2011 04:20 PM

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Since all of the 68' Hemi Darts started off as 383 GTS cars.

A bumble bee stripe kit was put in the trunk of each car, as they
left the Hurst facility in Madison Heights.
One white-stripe kit and one black-stripe kit.

The 68's had the full dual stripe.

Also, some of the Hemi Darts came through with Model #270 Dart front-grilles (ie; Shirley Shahan; 'Drag-On-Lady', post #817)

Most cars came through with the GT sport grille,

Paul Ceasrine 06-28-2011 08:32 PM

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The Speedwin car,,,,,a beautiful restoration.
Though the original lace paint scheme was a touch bolder.

I think that is car #35 off the first run......SS/BA
Who would think it.
Car purchased in April 1968 for $5200.
Ebbets Field Dodge, Brooklyn, New York.

And no radio, heater,or back seat,,,,,,,,,GEEZ.

marfen 06-30-2011 10:35 PM

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Wow, this thread just keeps getting better and better...awesome rare historical pics...thanks for sharing.

Paul Ceasrine 07-01-2011 10:35 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
The Moose just keeps on firing hit-after-hit,,,,,,,,,,,,,:)

#836 Post
Chuck McJury, Schenectady, NY.
Was an original 4-speed car.
He ordered an automatic, but got a 4-speed.
Ran SS/B 68' and 69'.
Went to SS/BA in late-69'.
SS/AA in 1970, then into Pro/Stock.

Black roof was later changed to white.
That car sits in a garage in Connecticut,,,,,,,,,,waiting to be restored.:D

A Ramchargers built engine was in that car.

pc

MEMORIES 07-02-2011 12:06 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here's a couple of photos from Doug Potter's collection. The "El Toro" Dart pic was taken at Bristol around 1970. I don't know anything about it. The "Rumble Bee" Dart photo was taken at the old "Drag City" track in Ringgold, Georgia about 1969. This car was owned by Thurmon Callaham at the time. I've seen other photos of the car with a different owner. I don't know where this car went after Callaham owned it.

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/scan0022.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/scan0023.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 07-02-2011 01:28 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Memories,,,,,,

'El Toro'
SS/BA
Ed Halsey
Bethalto, Illinois

'Rumble Bee'
SS/B
Gogdill Motor Co.
Tennessee/Georgia-based
That car did excellent at the 1969 (2/69) Miami Winternationals
at Miami Speedway Park, Hollywood Florida

Also, at that event, other Florida-based Hemi Darts
* Biscayne Dodge Hemi Dart
* Alan Carroli Hemi Dart


Some added information.
The 'Vera's Automotive' Hemi Dart out of Corpus Christi, Texas.
Delivered to;
Creveling Motor Co, (Dodge Dealer)
302 South Water Street
Corpus Christi, Texas

MEMORIES 07-03-2011 01:26 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Thanks for the good info. Here's another photo a friend of mine took at Bristol in August of 1976. Who was this?

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ISTOLAUG76.jpg

marfen 07-03-2011 04:40 PM

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Kinda looks like the scat pack dodge , could be wrong

Chris DeGidio 07-03-2011 04:51 PM

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It is the Scat Pack Dodge.

Frito 07-03-2011 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris DeGidio (Post 267198)
It is the Scat Pack Dodge.

I can't remember the classes back then. Was the 4-AA or 1-AA the single 4 barrell?? A lot of guys ran the single 4 with the "bathtub" intake, they still could class race and dodge the "hitters' ie, Bagwell.

MEMORIES 07-03-2011 09:51 PM

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Miami, Fla. 1970. Doug Potter photo.

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...TPACKDODGE.jpg

bluegrassx 07-04-2011 11:21 PM

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Glen Warful from Florida.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MEMORIES (Post 267119)
Thanks for the good info. Here's another photo a friend of mine took at Bristol in August of 1976. Who was this?

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...ISTOLAUG76.jpg


Paul Ceasrine 07-05-2011 11:29 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Thanks to Mark,

Don Carlton (an original 1968 owner)
SS/B
'Lil Thumper'
Spring Road Auto Sales
Lenoir, North Carolina

Light blue, w/Appliance Uni-Chrome Steel Wheels
Car can be seen next to Bill Flynn's 'Yankee Peddler' in post #781

MEMORIES 07-06-2011 02:36 AM

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There's no need to keep these photos hid forever. Miami 1970.

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...MI2-8-70-1.jpg

MEMORIES 07-06-2011 02:42 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Doug Potter Photo.

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...LENVANKE-1.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 07-06-2011 06:11 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Hemi Inc, (Post #864)
South East Chrysler-Plymouth
Miami, Florida
10.40 on the window
late-1970,,,,, SS/AA Record

Once the records got thrashed into the low-mid 10.00's,
many guys started selling these cars off,,,,,,,,,,,for good prices too,,,
$5500 to $6500.

It was either Pro/Stock or A/MP, then,,,,,,,

They moved to 1970 Hemi Cuda's for SS/D and SS/DA.
A softer record.

A suprisingly not happy Arlon Vanke,,,,
that is his #2 car, which won the 1969 AHRA Winternationals in 'Heads Up S/S'
The first non-handicap Super/Stock Event (the inception of Pro/Stock).

Arlon had to buy that car from Wickes Auto Sales in Zainesville, Ohio,,,,,,
well above suggested retail,,,$5700

Paul Ceasrine 07-07-2011 03:39 PM

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Ray,

You can check the list on page 70,,,,,post #696

That list is coordinated by region, not the car #.
69 of the 72,, BO29 Barracuda's are listed.

Last one added;
Schmaltz Concrete
Osgood, Indiana
SS/BA car

3 areas of search quest,,,,,,for the other 3
* New Jersey
* North Dakota
* Nebraska

mopar68 07-08-2011 01:54 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MEMORIES (Post 267672)
There's no need to keep these photos hid forever. Miami 1970.

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...MI2-8-70-1.jpg

I hear ya! Cool photo, first time I've seen this car. Here's a couple rare scans from my stash...

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3...azine469ab.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9...azine469bb.jpg

M68

MEMORIES 07-08-2011 02:05 AM

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Sox & Auxier at Bristol, Tennessee. Looks like a Landy car behind them.

Wayne.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...-BRISTOL-1.jpg

mopar68 07-08-2011 02:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MEMORIES (Post 268027)
Sox & Auxier at Bristol, Tennessee. Looks like a Landy car behind them.

Wayne.

Another rare shot! Thanks Wayne. What appears to be the "Landy" car is actually Chick DeNinno's "Fever" Charger before that name (in really big, wacky letters) was lettered on the side of the car.

M68

mopar68 07-08-2011 03:21 AM

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http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5673/playmateiib.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/871...glishtownc.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9...glishtownd.jpg

M68

Paul Ceasrine 07-09-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
M68,

Chuck McJury,

Thats his first paint job from 1968.
Car was a 4-speed, but Chuck would occassionally switch over
to a Torque-Flite for SS/BA.

Chuck out of the Schenectady, New York area, but sponsored by Cicero Dodge outside of Syracuse, and Stevenson Garage (who also sponsored Ed Miller's BO29 Barracuda).

In 1969, the car was re-painted. with a black top.
In 1970, the top was re-painted white.

Was a runner.
Saw him at Dover Drag Strip a few times, and on the NED 1 circuit.
Always consistent with 10.80's.

pc

MEMORIES 07-09-2011 02:47 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
"Hemi Power" at Paradise Drag Strip in Calhoun, Georgia. I won my first bracket race at this track in 1974, got $40. My friend Dan Sharp took this photo. This must have been a big race for the track because Hubert Platt was in attendance among other notables.

Wayne

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...HOUNGA68-1.jpg


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