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grncpe 11-21-2016 06:59 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 519954)
HAHAHAHA damn just spit my drink out I will put a monkey on that wall with a radio

I'm just reading up on this, That was the funniest thing I have seen in a while! I busted out laughing! Thanks Mickey for that. I run the middle to slower end of the pack in ss/JA so I spot but get chased often. My decision is easy on the subject. I'm against it. All this system does is give a slower car a second chance in the event there is a double red light. I mean it's easy. You live or die on the tree, we all know this. Your red, your gone. Does it give the faster car a free pass? Yes but YOU handed it to the faster car for going red. Live with it , don't change the rules for your favor.

west coast 11-21-2016 07:39 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
So a slower car gets 2 shots at the tree does that mean if he goes red he can stop back up and restage and try it again?

grncpe 11-21-2016 08:13 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
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Originally Posted by west coast (Post 520433)
So a slower car gets 2 shots at the tree does that mean if he goes red he can stop back up and restage and try it again?

Lmao, I just read all 20 pages, I thought there were no politics allowed on this forum. Sounds like a bunch of lawyers trying to change the law because something is not fair. Easy way to look at it. You both stage, you know the rules, YOU leave first, YOU go red. Race over. Simple.

Mark Yacavone 11-21-2016 09:37 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
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Originally Posted by west coast (Post 520433)
So a slower car gets 2 shots at the tree does that mean if he goes red he can stop back up and restage and try it again?

That's funny James, but that's the only way the slower car could get two chances to win, under Tru-Start.

He gets ONE chance to put up a winning light..Same as the faster car. ONE!

Now, under the current system, the FASTER car gets TWO chances to win. ONE while sitting on the line before he even moves, and ONE down at the other end of the track.

Don Kennedy 11-21-2016 10:00 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
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Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 520430)
I'm just reading up on this, That was the funniest thing I have seen in a while! I busted out laughing! Thanks Mickey for that. I run the middle to slower end of the pack in ss/JA so I spot but get chased often. My decision is easy on the subject. I'm against it. All this system does is give a slower car a second chance in the event there is a double red light. I mean it's easy. You live or die on the tree, we all know this. Your red, your gone. Does it give the faster car a free pass? Yes but YOU handed it to the faster car for going red. Live with it , don't change the rules for your favor.

I agree with you:D

grncpe 11-21-2016 10:04 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
The faster car did not make the slower car red light. There is no advantage there. That is on the driver. The slower car driver gave the win to the other car. Why is that so hard to understand or live with. They made a mistake & it cost them the race. Race your own race.
What sport has a false start without an immediate penalty? I can't think of any. Track, Football, ect. All go by this.
Another thing to think about is this, lets reverse it. If the slower car cuts a good light & the faster car red lights. How often would the person let off to save on wear & tear on their car? Often I would say. So why should the faster car have to stay on the trans brake for longer than they need to when they have allready won? The race is over. Automatic disqualification.

Mark Yacavone 11-21-2016 10:32 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
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Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 520451)
The faster car did not make the slower car red light. There is no advantage there. That is on the driver. The slower car driver gave the win to the other car. Why is that so hard to understand or live with. They made a mistake & it cost them the race. Race your own race.
What sport has a false start without an immediate penalty? I can't think of any. Track, Football, ect. All go by this.
Another thing to think about is this, lets reverse it. If the slower car cuts a good light & the faster car red lights. How often would the person let off to save on wear & tear on their car? Often I would say. So why should the faster car have to stay on the trans brake for longer than they need to when they have allready won? The race is over. Automatic disqualification.

Simple answer is that's the nature of handicap racing. Without it you would be racing factory blower cars heads up.

Your premise is not correct, under Tru-Start. The slower car cannot possibly lose until the second car moves..no matter how early he leaves.

Why is that so hard to understand or live with. (question mark)

jmantle 11-21-2016 11:01 PM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
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Originally Posted by Bob Gullett (Post 520300)
Geez. I never thought a round of eliminations between Jody and me would turn into quite the discussion! LOL

Bob, under the circumstances I thought your opinion for or against might be interesting.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632 (by the way, congratulations)

Don Kennedy 11-22-2016 12:14 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
It seems like this tru start idea is trying to level the playing field then how about this idea since NHRA is the only Major Sports Organization that allows Professionals to compete against amateurs should be addressed to create a level playing field .:confused:

Bernie Cunningham 11-22-2016 12:24 AM

Re: A case for Tru-Start
 
What's your point Mr. Kennedy ??


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