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Double Amen. Well stated Alan.

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Alan, if we ever meet, you have a case of beer (or beverage of your choice) on me.

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Glad I brought that up!
Now we all know, your wallet, your head nor your heart has any involvement in Class Racing. Didn't your parents ever tell you "butt out, stay out of other peoples business!" I can't imagine being one of your neighbors, do you work at changing the way they run their families also?
Just like Allen stated, go to the appropriate message board and plead your case there.
I haven't counted (because I do have better things to do) but I'd say after all this you have what, 6 people on board with your plan? I have to think you should have one nasty headache after beating your head against the wall so long.

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Alan (AA/SA),

Bill has told us many times , he's a former Stock racer, tech guy, and long time fan of S/SS racing.

As you know, Alan (AA/SA) , this is the section of this forum where the fans get to post their opinions. I'm sure you knew that.

Also, Alan (AA/SA) , you know that changes such as this proposal, start out at the NHRA Nat'l event tracks, then filter down to the Divs. and Open facilities, not the other way around.

Alan (AA/SA) , I always look forward to your insightful posts, and I appreciate the help you've given me over the years ....... But take this from a guy who doesn't really care whether they change this or not, your last post on this topic sounded like >>>"KILL THE MESSENGER" to me.....But you knew that too, didn't you, Alan..........(AA/SA)

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Jeff ,I think there's a lot more than six, including a few Top Ten racers

Oh, and it's A-L-A-N (AA/SA)

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Mark, we also run A/SA, SS/EA, and I may drive in B/SA or C/SA some this year.

Yes, I did campaign for AA/SA. And we do run the class.

I also drove in G/S. And I did redlight first, more than once. It was MY redlight, I did it, and I lost. The system didn't rip me off, the rules didn't beat me, I let the clutch fly early. Entirely MY FAULT.

It's a rule that has been the way it is for decades, it hasn't hindered the growth of the sport. It's a minor annoyance, at the most. Worrying about that rule is about the same as putting a band aid on a cut on the finger of a patient while he dies of an untreated sucking chest wound.

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As a person that has lost many many times being chased and chasing, I can tell you that this topic does not keep me up at night.

I would suggest that if there are a few on here that really want to try it out, try sponsoring a combo race with the propsed rule change in effect! Maybe kick in 500 or a thou to help prime the pump.

Advertise the rules up front. Then you might find out how it "rolls".

When I first started announcing, the girls in the tower and the announcer had to do quick math to figure the winner. It could be done.

Of course, it is a lot harder to actually get off your arse and do something compared to posting an idea and hoping it goes viral.

Put your time and money where your mouth is.

I mean, I would be racing pro stock now if it wasn't for the whole time and money thing........:)

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Alan is right, and thats the end this foolishness ! I'm right too like Alan and the rest that agree with Alan !.....John

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So, what's the criteria to be able to post on this issue? Looks to me like a lot of people posting on this haven't even raced S/SS in the last two plus years. If you crew on a S/SS car is that good enough? What if somebody knows someone who crews on a S/SS car is that good enough? What if somebody painted a S/SS car is that good enough?

If Bill has raced in S/SS before then I think he has just as much right to post on this issue as a lot of you do.


-Toby

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That's right, Toby, the car I was racing was sold in early 2009. So I didn't race in 2009 or 2010, and haven't driven yet, this year. I am however a current participant on a couple of levels, I'm not whining about how I can't race, and I'm working on getting back in.