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PozQB14 07-05-2017 05:34 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 538842)
The crate motors being discussed are for the new OEM motors which would necessitate new classes. They appear to have no interest in any of the current IHRA style crate motors classes. Just more toys for the OEMs.

Bruce can you elaborate? What new OEM crate motors are available? I know that IHRA and maybe NHRA (not sure) created a factory GT class for SS that uses the new factory motors in older cars.

FLEMING 07-06-2017 10:44 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
I am so thankfull these types of posts pop up every so often to remind me not to jump off the deep end and go stocker racing like I have always wanted..lol

Dan Fahey 07-06-2017 11:51 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Think Crate Motor Class needs a bit of rethinking.
It was a smart evolution for Stock.

In fact wrote an article promoting Crate Motors in Super Stock Drag Illustrated, August 1993 edition.

My opinion but do not like tunnel rams, or any carb or intake on a Crate Motor.
That took it too far but is what it is.

US big 3 plus America Motors made factory replacement engines.
Even creating a few for the performance market.
Idea was to get updated engines out there replacing the well worn versions, some with hard to get pieces.

It added a little diversity to the Stock Eliminator concept.
Interesting that you can put a SBC in a Vega or SBF in Pinto.
Now that would make a good heads up race.

D

Todd Hoven 07-06-2017 11:55 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Delete.

Todd Hoven 07-06-2017 11:57 AM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
I've never raced any IHRA events, I hope to once to twice in the future.
My guess is that an IHRA compeditor builds a crate car to bracket race and class race on a budget. If it ever gets implemented in NHRA it will only be a short time before the budget gets raised significantly. A guy who has money and desires to run fast will turn one of these into a max effort deal and spend nearly as much money in the crate engine as he does in a traditional stock class engine. Then the budget guy will be far back and still racing IHRA mostly and out classed performance wise buy guys that lived to work on their cars and to go fast for a lifetime.

I'd dump all my Pontiac stuff right in the nearest river in a second, if we could put any engine in our cars. The NHRA laughs at me when I'm looking for a replacement cylinder head for my combo that is 40 years old and very hard to find specific parts. Be nice to buy new stuff and cut it up to to fast.

My guess is we are at the end of Stock as we know it. Soon the heads up will be eliminated along with all tech. Then all of this will be a mute point. Then I'll race bracket 2 much closer to home and on a budget. Or just stop all together and save some money for something better.

Bob Mulry 07-06-2017 12:12 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 538895)
I've never raced any IHRA events, I hope to once to twice in the future.
My guess is that an IHRA compeditor builds a crate car to bracket race and class race on a budget. If it ever gets implemented in NHRA it will only be a short time before the budget gets raised significantly. A guy who has money and desires to run fast will turn one of these into a max effort deal and spend nearly as much money in the crate engine as he does in a traditional stock class engine. Then the budget guy will be far back and still racing IHRA mostly and out classed performance wise buy guys that lived to work on their cars and to go fast for a lifetime.

I'd dump all my Pontiac stuff right in the nearest river in a second, if we could put any engine in our cars. The NHRA laughs at me when I'm looking for a replacement cylinder head for my combo that is 40 years old and very hard to find specific parts. Be nice to buy new stuff and cut it up to to fast.

My guess is we are at the end of Stock as we know it. Soon the heads up will be eliminated along with all tech. Then all of this will be a mute point. Then I'll race bracket 2 much closer to home and on a budget. Or just stop all together and save some money for something better.

You're Right...........

NO class.....

NO heads up.....

NO tech......

NO records.....

NO tear downs.....

NO rules......

NO performance....

NO reason to race.........

Joey Bohannon 07-06-2017 04:04 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

Todd Hoven 07-06-2017 04:46 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon (Post 538916)
Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

Your point?

Dan Fahey 07-07-2017 12:47 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon (Post 538916)
Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

Big Difference

We have to build a car that requires thinking and tuning the whole
Vehicle to qualify.
Then built a competitive car to be consistent and reliable.
Just cannot throw stuff together.

What is cool about stock are the odd combinations.
A U/SA Ford is in the 12's today. In the 80's that was O/SA territory.
Stock thrives because of racers figuring out how to make thier ride fast.
With what it came with under the hood.

Aside that we are handicapped by class.
That is the only similarity to Racket Racing.
D

Jeff Niceswanger 07-07-2017 01:34 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon (Post 538916)
Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

And the other 3 % is why 97 % of us race this class in the first place .....


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