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Liteweight, there was another thread about the Sox & Martin Superbird posted earlier this summer here on Classracer in another section, take a look.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=33830

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1968 Get Together
Dover Drag Strip, Wingdale, New York

Super Stock Eliminator Final, August 25, 1968

Charlie Castaldo (Scarsdale, New York) in the SS/B Dart
vs.
John Macey (Bridgeport, Connecticut) in the SS/BA Barracuda

The 'Heads Up' Barracuda with a slight handicap, won by an 'eyelash',
with a 10.91 @ 128.00 to Charlie's 10.89 @ 129.00

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=1176

A very interesting story about these 'two' gentleman, and their cars..

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I find it interesting that this thread has been up for about 2 years had over 1200 replies and over 161000 views all over how many cars bult perhaps 100+. I enjoy reading about these cars and seeing all of the old pictures too. Keep it going---Comp

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NK,

I'll post the information, but not the photo's.
1968 Super Stock Magazine Nationals were held at
New York National Speedway,,,,,,July 19 thru July 21.

The SS/B Class Winner on Friday was Sox & Martin, who
defeated Bob Gaudreau's Candy Cuda.

The S/S Eliminator on Sunday, was won by Dick Arons, who drove his
SS/F 67' SS396/325 HP Camaro 4-speed (convertible), defeating
Bill Stiles in his SS/BA 68' Hemi Barracuda.
(Actually, Bill Stiles beat Dick Arons in the Final, but ran under the index).

The Dick Arons 1967 Camaro was sponsored by Mid West Auto Parts,
had Cragar wheels,,,,,,Butternut Yellow paint and black convertible top.

Bill Stiles SS/BA @ 1968 Super Stock Magazine Nationals
http://www.dragracingimagery.com/photos/V1%2343.jpg


pc

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'Double Trouble', sponsored by Coletti Chrysler-Plymouth
out of Hillsboro, Oregon
1969 NHRA Winternationals
1968 SS/BA Hemi Barracuda

http://www.dragracingimagery.com/pho...ublecudass.jpg

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mi Moose;283249]I came across this older post...is there anyone else here that can add anymore info or details on the Sox & Martin 68 Hemi Barracuda's that they raced in 68-69-70 or later...Here's a couple of photos of Eddie Smith's (West Virgina Hemi) 68 Hemi Barracuda that Sox & Martin sold to

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ldoraTruby.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ldoraTruby.jpg[/QUOTE]Hemi Moose
I was at Cicle cCounty Md. when Sox & martin showed up to run a 2 out of 3 match race with who I can't remember. The car was drven by Carlton, and I think was acid dipped. It was the first Cuda that they had installed a full rollcage into. Talked to Buddy about bent quater pannels just infront of rear wheels up the rear window that had been repaired and in primer.I beleave the car needed the cage to support the dipped body, due to the fact that they did not have any ladder bars or 4 link at the time,. The rear springs would torq up in fromt and pull down at rear hanger, thus bend in rear pannels.That vehicle had only rear springs no bars.
Do you think that car could have been Don Carlton's car or just a dipped body to start with. I think it was a car built just to match race.But I'm sure they found out after a few passes that it needed some support body wise.
Very soon after that better rear suspension " ladder bars " started showing up on the Chry. racecars, because they could hook into the cage for support.

JACK

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Sonny Ray in the "Collins & Jones" SS/AA Baracuda at Brainerd Optimist Drag Strip about 1980. Notice how low in the seat he's sitting. Sonny was a tall man.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...NNYRAY1980.jpg

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The Billy "The Kid" Stepp car is currently owned by a friend and it has been in S&M colors for years. Look for it at the Barrett-Jackson auction in January. The first BS car is owned by my boss in Arizona and is currently painted black and was raced in Canada up until about 6 years ago. It is just a static display now.

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Cool. Liteweight and I watched Renald race the black BS car up @ Mission BC @ their May Hemi shootouts . I think it ran a 9.0. Very well built car by Lee Brothers. Didn't know until now it was a Stepp car.

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Very cool indeed. Definately a good car. thanx for the information rhinodaert

liteweight

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Ken Montgomery


1971 Photo;
Ken installed the 1969 rear deck molding on the 1968 BO29 Hemi Barracuda, so he could run Pro/Stock (2-year rule),,,,,and he got away without changing the tail-lights, and round side-light markers.

Ken, also won Super/Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Summernationals in 1971.

1971 NED 1 Pro/Stock Meet @ Dover Drag Strip, Wingdale, New York
http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...ile.php?id=491

Ken in 1970,,,,in Pro/Stock, but still with SS/B lettered on the 'C' pillar.

http://www.competitionplus.com/image...tgomery_06.jpg


Soon after, converted to A/MP in 1972.
http://thumb8.webshots.net/t/16/16/6...8ripquE_th.jpghttp://thumb8.webshots.net/t/16/16/6...2ThbZke_th.jpg

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Paul, I stopped at a Kokomo In. speed shop today asking about Tom Crutchfield. One guy in the engine shop used to race with him at Bunker Hill and is from the same area. He said he could find out some info for us. This guy remembered Toms Hemi cars well. Tom. Just a little something to get this thread going again.

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Tommy D,

The thread needed a rest,,,,,,,,;)

Now, can anyone figure out who's 68' Dart is running A/MP versus
Dyno Don,,,,,,,,,at Indy...1969 Nationals

Dyno Don ran Jerry Harvey's 1966 Mustang, the former A/FX car in A/MP in 1969.
3 months earlier, Mr. Nicholson won the 69' Springnationals 'Street Eliminator' in this car.
Where he set the A/MP National Record at 10.49

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/...veyford02a.jpg

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Arlen Vanke is my guess on the dart in the other lane.

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Herb McAndless 'Mr. 4 Speed'
SS/B,,,,,runs 10.68 @ 128.61 MPH
July 18, 1969

Shelby County International Raceway
Lakeland, Tennessee


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...i7Fv2lB6pLP4uQ

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Indy 1970,,,,,
The ex-Test Mule car,,,??

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/sfha/158.jpg

Arlen Vanke,
1969 NHRA Winternationals
SS/B Class Winner ('T' Decal on front windshield)

Running here, versus Shirley Shahan (in her last race with the 68' Hemi Dart)
Sunday February 9, 1969

http://www.moparts.org/moparts/pictu...vankesHEMi.jpg

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Hi!
I'm new to the forum.
Regarding post 1136, the red Hemi Dart running against Dyno Don was discussed some time ago in the SS Yahoo Group. #343 at the '69 Nationals was listed as Bill Shrewsberry '68 Hemi Dart entered by Arlen Vanke. A Tom Myl photo of the car was posted in the SS group.

Thanks;
Ariel

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Welcome to the forum, Ariel,,, theres alot of great info on here,, take it all in if you can.
Thanks for the info on "Wild Bill" Shrewsberry too. I remember hearing where he'd grab a ride from different teams from time to time. Take care.
Danny Durham

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Shirley Shahan,
2nd Paint Job on the 68' Hemi Dart (lace pattern)
SS/BA
From the 1969 NHRA Winternationals
(black-rimmed steel wheel slicks later changed to, see below)

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp...cd2wo1_500.jpg


A better photo from the 1969 NHRA Winternationals,,,
Super Stock Eliminator (Sunday)
National Records:
SS/B,,,,,,,,,,10.64
SS/BA,,,,,,,10.83
http://www.nitroactive.net/images/ss6901_z.jpg

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I haven't posted in a long while. Hello Paul! Here are some recent finds.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7...ationals14.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9...ationals18.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6618/skspeeddart.jpg

It's the first time I've seen this car. Check out the Moon wheel disc covers! :)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/330...ationals16.jpg
(Bob Snyder photos)

M68

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I never saw this Dart before either. Paul?

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1...ationals25.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6...ationals20.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4...ationals21.jpg
(Bob Snyder photos)

M68

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.com/forum/index.php

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Pete,,,,,,

Great 'photo finds',,,:)

The Original 'Hemi Hunter' Barracuda,,,,,
Colony Chrysler-Plymouth, Plymouth, Michigan
SS/BA

Not sure if this is the same car Dean Nicopolis (Northville, Michigan)
ran for Gratiot Auto Supply in 1969,,,,,,, 'The Gratiot Auto Supply Special'

Which was later sold to Sox & Martin in late-1970.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When I sent you a PM, I thought you meant the Dick Oldfield
'Good Guys' Dart,,,,,,,,,not the 'McCollum & Bolland' Dart,,,,,,

My Bad,,,,,,,,Paul

McCollum & Bolland,,,,,,,,out of Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania (southwestern part of the state).
Don Bolland, had a machine shop 'D & D Competition Engines'.

Photo must be be from late-May or 1st week of June, 1968.
See 11.10 on the Dart window,,,,,,,,,that was the June 1968 SS/BA National Record,
held by Larry Cooper out of West Monroe, Louisianna, with his Hemi Dart 'The Hustler'

Damn near every SS/BA Hemi car could run well under the record,,,,,,,,,,,,
as Mopar controlled who and when could run under it.

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Anyone have a picture of Joe Ralph Thompson's Dart?
If I remember correctly it was solid red (most of his cars were) and driven by Gene Graham.
Thanks in advance.

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Charlie A,,,

A photo of Joe's Hemi Dart will be in my pictorial book..

Joe Ralph Thompson,,,,,,,'JRT Racing', Rison, Arkansas

Not the Hemi Dart here,,,,,,,but a nice 65' Plymouth AWB.

' http://www.classracer.com/classforum...1&d=1284831305

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Judy Lilly, SS/BA

1969 NHRA Winternationals (February 1969)

(1st paint scheme, circa 1968 and early-1969), and sponsored by the Denver Plymouth Dealers Association.
http://www.nitroactive.net/images/jl6901_z.jpg


New 1969 Paint Job (scheme #2, circa mid-1969) and still with NHRA #719, and BeeHive Hairdoo......!!!
http://www.harmsauto.com/images/Judy...es/judy_06.JPG

Judy Lilly (paint scheme #3 ,same color just re-lettered, circa late-1969 and early-1970). Paint by 'Skyline Auto', Van Nuys, Californiahttp://www.harmsauto.com/images/Hist...968%20Cuda.jpg



Judy Lilly (paint scheme #4, circa mid-late 970)
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1312327596


Judy Lilly (paint scheme #5, circa 1971)
http://www.thevintageracer.com/kasch...971%20indy.jpg

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Joe Ralph Thompson dart is in Kansas in good hands.

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Paul,,, spill the beans to us about this upcoming book! I've picked up a nice collection of pictoral and "coffee table" books over the years, and certainly wouldn't mind another. Whats it going to be about and what about a possible release date.
Danny Durham

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Dean Nicopolis, out of Northville, Michigan

SS/BA,,,,'The Original Hemi Hunter'
1968 photo (Sold to Sox & Martin in 1970)
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/330...ationals16.jpg

Later, Mr. Nicopolis campaigned this 70' SS/DA Hemi Cuda for 'The Ramchargers'
from 1974 thru 1986.
http://speednik.com/files/2010/09/cu...p4-640x512.jpg

In 1967, Dean and Mike Nicopolis were campaigning 'The Hemi Hunter'
a 1967 Funny Car Camaro (w / Injected Chevy Rat Motor)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/...55a05b9d20.jpg

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The last of the "teaser photo's", the rest will be in the pictorial book,,
,,,,,A Mid-West,,,,, SS/BA Dart,,,,,,,,,John Rivers or John Grant,,,???

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf...fapko1_500.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7287/hemidart.jpg

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Hmmm.....Stuttgart (Ark) Dragway/Airport?
5000 ft of concrete.

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Follow up?

Pics?

Info?

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Guys name was John Rivers. Raced at MN Dragways, and was crashed/rolled on the street, and later rebodied...

Picture my Mom took at MN Dragways.

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I have questions on whether this Dart was crashed - there seems to be little info on it. John Rivers from what I understand was a black guy - also note the Soulful (something) Racing on the rear quarter. Look at this pic which apears to be 70, 71ish at what looks to be a Div V Points Meet. I am judging the year by the cars in the background - Ostrich's SS/DA car ect... Was this car sold - It appears the racer and the boy are not John Rivers - Any help here?
Mark J

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Often overlooked in 1968,,,

Judy Lilly had a successful campaign in Division 5 (West Central Division)
with the SS/BA 68' Hemi Barracuda.
And Ms. Lilly was the only female to qualify for the 68' NHRA World Finals,
October 20, 1968 @ Tulsa, Oklahoma.

She won several rounds, before breaking-out (Disqualified), by running under
the SS/BA National Record (10.83) in the quarter-finals.

http://www.nitroactive.net/images/jl6901_z.jpg

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Some of the Chrysler people behind the 1968 Super/Stock Hemi Program;

* Chrysler-Plymouth Sales Manager; R.D. McLaughlin
* Head of Product Planning; Dick Maxwell
* Product Planning, Drag Race Division; Bob Cahill
* Special Vehicle Engineering; Tom Hoover
* Supervisor of Special Vehicle Engineering; Dan Mancini
* Chrysler Engineer (Racing Program); Pete Hutchinson
* Head of Development and Testing, Engineer; Bob Tarozzi
* Staff Engineer for Special Performance; Dave Koffel
* Special Car Manager and Chief Engineer; R. M. Rodgers
* Dodge Performance Sales Manager; R.H. Kline
* Sales and Marketing, Drag Race Division; Jerry Gross
* Product Planning and Special Parts Services; Brian L. Schram
* Chief Mechanic; Ted Spehar (Woodward Garage,,,,a.k.a. Skunkworks)
* Chief Mechanic; Larry Knowlton (Woodward Garage)
* Chrysler Technician/Mechanic; Dan Knapp
* Fuel Systems Engineer; John Bauman
* Chrysler Technician; Jerry Greene
* Hurst Performance Director; Richard Chrysler

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In regards to John Rivers, He did own the Hemi Dart and that photo is of him and he was was part of a St. Paul car club existing of black racers. The club name was The Soulful Strutters. Another member named Eddie Anderson had a Green 68 hemi Dart as well. John lived in North Mpls and use to keep the car on his ramp truck behind his house in an alley. Never garaged. And what kept anyone from stealing that ride was one bad *** German Shepherd that was was chained to the truck. A long chain I might add. Hope that this helps.

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I appreciate the info on the Johnny Rivers Dart. Does anyone know what ever happened to it? I have heard that it is still tucked away in MN, that it was crashed, that it fell on Johnny and killed him, ect... My point with the picture is that this is not a black guy and his son - I was under the impression that Johnny was a black guy???? So was the car sold??
Thanks,
Mark J

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Last I knew the remnants of the car were in Florida (2007-2009)

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Soulful Strutters were also part of the Dick Landy 67 Dodge after it was sold thru White Bear Dodge in MN

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Anyone, ever here of Lenny Lowe,,,,,

Ran a 68' Hemi Barracuda at the 1970 Indy Nationals in A/MP.

Out of Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin.

Edited,,,,,I found him,
'Super Cuda',,,,,,,,John Hagen's ex-SS/B car.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...6&d=1243447595