Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 118387)

Dave ; I'm glad you are alive and well. Hope its not true about Hal.

Originally Posted by Chuck Porter (Post 118389)

Dave
Evidently we both took a turn at pushing each others "buttons".
Without a doubt I have offended you and for that I sincerely apologize. PM me you phone number and I'l be happy to talk to you in person.
However I still believe anybody that posts should sign their real name. So we have a difference of opinion on that subject.

I don't feel it necessary to compare credentials and I don't know how old you think I am or how long I've been in this racket, but something you might relate to is I'm old enough to remember racing at the old Orange County (OCIR) track well before it closed.

The issue with Hal is not the fact that he drained water out of the rad it is that he HAD to drain water out of the rad to kill a run. I have made no secret of the fact I dislike the AHFS in it's present configuration. For one thing it doesn't take into consideration exceptional conditions like today in Boise. The conditions were beyond mineshaft. Those who normally are fast were real fast today. Those who are normally real fast were bullets today. However the key is these were not normal conditions. So you end up with a HP gift on Monday as a result of unrealistic conditions that may not be duplicated again for years. It doesn't add up to me.

Then I read a post from anonymous contributor, who I felt was taking pot shots at friends of mine and I reacted. I haven't been able to find the rule about taking weight out of the car. Perhaps you or someone can point that out to me sometime.

Chuck Porter

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 118388)

I'm not as old a guy, but I think I remember the same car ran with a hemi as an A/SA back in the 70's - Sutton and Schmitz?

Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 118390)

I think I remember the 70 E body hemi getting alot of HP on runs where it didnt scale or fuel check at 9am on a below sea level morning.

Ebody hemi 457
Bbody hemi 430

Same motor

So it shouldnt matter if you are light if your giving HP to someone who didnt scale.

Originally Posted by John Mason (Post 118396)

Kinda fell into a buzz saw, right Chuck?
As to weight adjustment prior to scales, let me give you a scenerio. You have a B/SA and run another B/SA in eliminations. They beat you by .01 (ignore reaction times) and, just before the scales, someone hands them a 25 lb. bar which they put under the seat. They are OK by 5 lbs.
Is that legal?
Of course not.
Adjusting weight after a run for any reason is not in keeping with the spirit of the rules. That being said, I've got a lot of respect for the Sorensons, and I understand why they did it. The AHFS makes little sense. It would take little effort to write a computer program that converts ET to match actual DA at the time of the run rather than to an arbitrary factor. We do it all the time with our weather stations.

Originally Posted by John Mason (Post 118363)

Schmidt's for real.
Look under "Darin Grossi" on Auto imagery. That was Dave's driver in his B/SA Mopar. Won some Nationals and Divisionals before the car went to Sweden 2 or 3 years ago.