Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

The people that don't want heads are either to lazy to work on their stuff, not smart enough and don't want to learn or are not able to afford it. Thats what started brackets to begin with and thats where they belong not in class racing. But thats just me. I started in the 60s so I've had it both ways.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

Or maybe they dont have the money to build a 50K stocker. I think thats what a good one will cost that is bad *** these days. At least A-F/SA. And I mean BAD *** not 1 second under at Indy.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

For once I agree with Ed's post.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

Ed,

Isn't that Super Stock with little tires?

How about using the factory idle specs. You know, 600 rpm in drive. Wouldn't that make the tech line interesting?

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

Nothing would be wrong with heads up runs in the eliminator if the rules were enforced. That idea has been out the window for many years ,though.
I guess what people mean when they say you should work harder, is you should work harder at your regular job. That way,you can afford all the non- stock parts that should never have been allowed in the first place.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

My dad got cussed back in 1980 by an employee of a sanctioning body when he told them "SPEED COST MONEY, HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO",


Dont tell me to work harder to make my car run faster, Mark is so right, work harder 9-5 to make more money to buy 35K worth of parts to put in my 15K stocker to be stupid fast. NOT FAST BUT STUPID FAST there is a difference.

For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE.


Just a thought, even though its a stupid one.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

When NHRA changed the rules so everyone was allowed take weight out to run at the top of the classs and at the same time lowered all the HP factors it messed everything related to factors up. Then they instituted the AHFS at the same time and even that is not correct because of the factored track runs....

So until they fix the ahfs I don't think anything will be fixed.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

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For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE.
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Now thats the best idea Ive heard lately ! Thats the way it used to be when I was running S/S and stock. I was class runner up at the 1978 Sports Nationals and I didnt get to run for the eliminator even though even though I was within .002 of winning class and we were both well under the index. That would sure get the AHFS in line in a hurry if they counted class runs.....LOL.

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

For you guys that think stock isnt bracket racing, maybe you need to push nhra to go back to Class Winners only run on Sunday. That will shorten the field. Also dont forget all class winners get tore down EVERY RACE

Herb;
That problem arose at Indy last year.Some guys won class who weren't much under the .50 limit.With the new system guys who lost class and were way more than .50 under got in.Calling us a performance eliminator means different things to different people.Do you reward the class winners or the fastest runners?
I think the class winners should be in first ,like it used to be.


Ed

Re: Whither the 425/427 decicion....
 

You nailed it. Count all runs and things would get fixed in a hurry. Or at least quicker than it is now. Force people to run all out to win and the AHFS has a better chance to work as intended. Use the incrementals also.