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Gary,
Do you know the best email address to use?
Thanks,
Bill

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Another reason I thought that was interesting, was after seeing the margin of victory between Greg Luneacks wagon, and Slate Cummings '08 Cavalier (plus knowing that Greg's margin of victory was .0062), I thought it was odd that the front tire of Greg's car just edged out the front tip of Slate's Cavalier, and that the lowest edge of Slate's front end was low enough to be able to trip the finish light beem---thus making me feel like his tire may start his race, but his frontal facia (especially if under braking), could dip low enough to trip the lights at the end)...did any body else notice that??? Clearly Gregs whole tire crossed the line ahead of Slate's Cavalier, but given the obviously ultra fast revolutions of the thousandts of a second, I think more than .006 would've elapsed between Greg's tire crossing the finish line than when Slate's tire did??? Any physics/math majors here who can agree/disagree with my thoughts, because that's verrrry interesting!!???

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Not really Bill, because the standard contact line that they supposedly have has never worked for me, so I'm glad that I got that number...maybe it's the public computers that I use that was the reason I couldn't directly email them, but otherwise I'm clueless...good luck trying that bud...

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That would be OK since they are staging with the same device correct? In the example above they are sayng a car which stages with the tire broke the win beam with body work. Not good.

Is that why they moved the spectator stands away from the finish line at Joliet? So you can't see who actually won? :-)

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I thought the finish line photoeyes were higher than the staging photoeyes. And that's why some of the firebirds and camaro could dip the nose down at the finish line to break the beam. At least that what I was told.

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Yes, they are higher (or at least they were when I talked to someone about it 20+ years ago). The explanation I was given was that they needed to be higher to be sure the timing system did not miss the tire passing through on the top end. If they were low like the staging beams, then the period of time breaking the beam would be very short at the top end while the car is at a higher speed. With modern electronics I don't think that reason is valid any more. I've been thinking of posting this as a thread here to see if people think that the finish line beams should be lowered. I learned all about this after losing a race in Super-Gas to one of the then-new Brogie roadsters with a minimum-height front "bumper", which was obviously designed to trip the lights.

Kudos to ESPN for the good coverage, wish I would have been able to catch it (I was traveling and do not have a DVR).

Regards,

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Bobby, I was the one who made that comment, and last night I re-watched the staging of both cars, and it looked to me as though the Cavaliers front end moved forward of the staging beams to thus stage with the tire, however the freeze frame at the end showed the Cavaliers tire clearly being behind the rear-most edge of the wagons front tire as it tripped the finish line beams. However, the front nose of the Cavalier was right there close enough to the front edge of the wagons tire to explane the narrow victory for Greg...I hope somebody else who saw/taped this race will look at it so as to agree/disagree with my oppinion, but as I said before verrry interesting....

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some of the guys that i bracket race with use a "stripe taker" mounted up by the front bumper and it only hits the beam at the top end. they stage with the tire and take the stripe with the wing. cheatin bastards!

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The coverage was good, except for one thing I noticed that was not mentioned on here! The top end cameras were at the 1000' mark!!! Showing once again how everything is geared towards the pros! Only the finish line cameras (still) were shown at the stripe, everything else on top end was from the 1000' to the down track cameras! It was not like that last year.

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You're right Bryan, and I didn't like that either...ESPN IF YOU'RE READING THIS THREAD, I HOPE YOU'LL FIX THAT ISSUE, SO WE GET FULL TRACK COVERAGE IN THE FUTURE TOO...AFTER ALL, WE SPORTSMAN RACERS ARE THE PRIMARY BILL PAYERS OF THE NHRA!!!!