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Ed Fernandez 09-29-2009 03:32 PM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1529 (Post 143379)
Do any of you have kids that are on here saying that kids should'nt be on pit vehicles? I don't have any kids, but I know for a fact that I could handle a golfcart when I was 8-9 because I was already using a lawn tractor to mow my parents grass.

Parents that know their kids should make this decision, not the track owners.

I have been to tracks that don't allow kids to ride bicycles. how fair is that? They can strap into a Jr dragster, but can't even ride a bike for fun or execrise during the down time.

and if you want to see people doing stupid things on a golf cart, just go to your local golf course especially when they have a scramble, or some type of tournament.. talk about a bunch of crazy drunks??

and also, if the track is sponsoring some sort of Bar B que, or feed, or party, why would they not let you ride a vehicle to it? what if you were pitted far away?

Track owners need to realize who the customers are.

and no I am not one of the crazies on a golf cart at three in the morning. but I think we are entitled to use our pit vehicles as we see fit whether that be going to see friends or a feed after the race, or going to the church service at 730 the next morning.

but I think we are entitled to use our pit vehicles as we see fit

Chris,maybe on your own property but not on theirs.We might not like it and it seems we are being punished for the actions of a few people who think they can do what they want when they want.We have the option of not showing up if we want.Not a good option but that's the way it is.
It might come down to the point of requiring insurance to ride a pit vehicle on the premises.Another outlay of cash and bureaucracy.

Tom Goldman 09-29-2009 03:38 PM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
Unfortunately ,It sounds like a serious accident prompted the pit vehicle rule. ........As I understand it, someone fell off the back of a scooter Wed. nite ,and was run over by a golf cart following them. .......The injured person apperantly sustained a serious head injury,and had to be air lifted out from the track.........The rule may seem a little draconian, but put yourself in Lex's position . .....I'm sure there is pressure not only from the insurers, but probably the police also.........The only one I don't get is the check deal. ........Tom

SC1317 09-30-2009 11:22 AM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
It was posted by a track operator on another site(I was told) that the gentleman hurt was on an overloaded golf cart that took a turn too fast and he fell. He is hurt pretty bad and will be in the hospital for quite awhile. My prayers to the family. It was an accident, should cart have had more people on it that it could handle, probably not, but we've all been there. Again, it was an accident and I was not there, but dont think we all should be punished.

Question...Where was MG's crack security? The ones that chased me down with 2 vans when I was riding my Zuma back from the bar after having dinner with friends that were staying at a hotel? It was like something out of "Cops". All because I drove by the guy sleeping at the end of the road! What did they think I was doing, riding a scooter from Reading @ 12:30am just to sneak in the track? I'm getting off the subject and sure they had their reasons. Still, where was security?

No...I don't believe younger children should be riding around unsupervised. Motorized or not. It only takes a second for their eyes to wander and turn into the path of someone or something. A childs life is way to precious to chance.

I thought our pit bikes needed to registered and insured. How are they different than driving your car in and out? How can the track tell me I can't drive my legal vehicle in and out unless they lock the gates?

Harry 6674 09-30-2009 11:38 AM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
I still haven't figured out why people need pit bikes,quads, golf carts, motorized wagons and bar stools. We'd all be healthier if we walked more plus we could put the money saved on the scooter and better health in the race cars. Then we could all be fast and get rid of the shoe polish and get the fans back. See how easy it is.

Bryan Worner 09-30-2009 11:46 AM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
Harry, when is the last time you walked a pair of slicks about a mile to get them changed, then walked them back to your pits? Much more practical with a golf cart.

Kids without a drivers license should not be operating pit vehicles.......period! If they are caught, throw the parents (racer) out of the event! That should be a good deterrant!! Just because some little kid can handle a lawn mower doesn't give him the right, or priviledge to operate any motorized vehicle anywhere else!

I have a question about the last rule.........what are they going to do if you are not leaving the track by the 90 minute mark???? Will they lock the gate and impound your stuff??? Will you get a fine and/or storage fee? What will they do??? This has to be the most ridiculous rule I've ever heard of!

When will they come up with rules on when we are allowed to use the restrooms? It seems to be coming to that!

A100 09-30-2009 11:51 AM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry 6674 (Post 143554)
I still haven't figured out why people need pit bikes,quads, golf carts, motorized wagons and bar stools. We'd all be healthier if we walked more plus we could put the money saved on the scooter and better health in the race cars. Then we could all be fast and get rid of the shoe polish and get the fans back. See how easy it is.

I think it relates back to the "The one with the most toys, wins" rule.

Julie Jordan 09-30-2009 12:37 PM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 143556)

When will they come up with rules on when we are allowed to use the restrooms? It seems to be coming to that!

The last time I raced at Sacramento Raceway they had the permanent restrooms padlocked and had limited porta-potties around. I inquired and was told that they locked the restrooms because the racers left a mess! That's when I decided my racing experience wasn't being enhanced at that facility and I haven't been back. Unfortunately, in my advancing years, I'm finding fewer and fewer tracks that are enjoyable to go to. I'm not Dan Fletcher, I don't race for a living, this is supposed to be fun. More and more it's ceasing to be fun.

Unlicensed drivers should not be allowed on motorized pit vehicles, that's the only way to enforce it. And, I agree, disqualify the racer if your child is caught driving one.

And the check deal? That is not right.

Greg Barsamian 09-30-2009 01:02 PM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
What happened to the Auxiliary Pit Vehicle Registration & Agreement?
I paid for mine at the first race of the season?

Chris1529 10-01-2009 04:51 AM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
what is the release for that everyone signs when they come into the track?

how is it the tracks fault that someone wrecks a golf cart?

I was at a race a couple years ago at clay city where there was a guy there by himself with his elementary school aged son. The dad changed the engine in the car by himself while his son rode a bike and played around his pit area the whole time. there were no problems.

I am from an area where people let their kids ride dirt bikes, four wheelers, and help out on their farms at a fairly early age.

I apparently just see things differently that the rest of you.

buzzinhalfdozen 10-01-2009 06:30 AM

Re: New rules for Maple Grove Raceway competitors
 
I've never seen the age of the people involved in this so we may be getting off track a bit on the KIDS riding. Although I do agree that they should at the very least be supervised by an adult an accident can happen no matter what the age. Yes we ride our dog around, yes we chase parts and services, yes we go visit after hours, No I don't want to get hurt or hurt anyone else I have alot of $ in my stuff and I want to keep it nice so I try to be responsible. No matter the age if you don't care or aren't paying attention things such as this can happen. I have a very good freind who at times allows his son to drive him around the pit area, his son is probably more attentive than most adults while driving of course dad is always right there to make sure everything is OK. So I'm not sure the age of the people is rellevant here. Joe


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