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X-TECH MAN 01-28-2010 10:34 PM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BAS Racing (Post 165775)
The car is an IHRA car. And in IHRA the Mustangs go in AA/FIA.

http://www.ihra.com/article/5603.html

7/29/09

Addition to Fuel Injection Classes: AA/FI and AA/FIA are added to the class structure for Stock Eliminator. The 2 classes are reserved for 2008 and later accepted factory muscle cars. No existing FI cars may remove weight and enter this class.

Class Break is 7.50 to 7.99. Class Index is 10.85 1/4 mile and 7.00 1/8 mile.

Good move for IHRA. Now the blown Mustangs are insulated from the "normal" muscle cars and they can kick thier own butts IF any ever show up.

Paul Precht 01-29-2010 12:08 AM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
The 63 Dodges had aluminum bumpers, The 64 Dodge was paper thin steel with aluminum brackets, I owned both. The stock 64 Dodge bumper and brackets I had weighed 68lbs, the light weight with aluminum brackets was 15 lbs. The lightweight bumper was extremely rigid, not flimsy at all. Back in the early to mid eighties I was living with my mom and she walked into the spare bedroom upstairs one time to see the whole front of a 64 Dodge completely assembled, she wasn't pleased, Paul.

Bret Kepner 01-29-2010 01:44 AM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin (Post 165681)
I'm assumming you mean AA/SA although there was a SS/SA in the early to mid 60's.

Not true; however, there was S/SA (Super Stock Automatic) when the entire eliminator was comprised of two classes.

X-TECH MAN 01-29-2010 05:18 AM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner (Post 165827)
Not true; however, there was S/SA (Super Stock Automatic) when the entire eliminator was comprised of two classes.

There was a SS/SA (and SS/S for the sticks) in 1962 and a S/SA for the year old cars. The letter designation was later changed to just S/S stick and S/SA for the autos.

X-TECH MAN 01-29-2010 05:23 AM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 165820)
The 63 Dodges had aluminum bumpers, The 64 Dodge was paper thin steel with aluminum brackets, I owned both. The stock 64 Dodge bumper and brackets I had weighed 68lbs, the light weight with aluminum brackets was 15 lbs. The lightweight bumper was extremely rigid, not flimsy at all. Back in the early to mid eighties I was living with my mom and she walked into the spare bedroom upstairs one time to see the whole front of a 64 Dodge completely assembled, she wasn't pleased, Paul.

You are correct Paul......I was just thinking about "Big KaHunas" car being a Plymouth. Its a bitch getting old.....LOL.

Harry 6674 01-29-2010 10:56 AM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
How about the alum. radiator and the Barton intake lid?

X-TECH MAN 01-29-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Alum. stock replacement radiators are legal in ALL IHRA stockers. Reason......some older units are almost impossable to find or recore. Its cheaper to use a stock alum replacement. The difference in wt. is next to nothing. Common sense prevails. The intake manifold was allowed by Mike Baker as I had nothing to do with that decision as I retired. It to makes sense as try finding a stock OEM cross ram HEMI intake manifold that hasnt been dicked with after all of these years. The MoPar performance Hemi part is much less expensive and easy to obtain. Beats payibg several thousand dollars for an OEM intake If you could find one. I know.....But its not stock but what is these days. Its not stock that counts but what is allowed by the racing association. Look at the single 4 barrle manifold that NHRA allowed on the Hemi cars like Bartons and others. Its no where near like the original piece IF you could ever find one and take out a mortgage to pay for it. Not everyone racing these Hemi cars is a multi millionare.

treessavoy 01-29-2010 01:02 PM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
IHRA told me I could use the fiberglass parts on my '64 Max Wedge but they had to be obtained from a certain manufacture but (get this) they didn't know who it was.

Does anyone out there know who makes these parts?

Appreciate the help,

JimR

Dick Butler 01-29-2010 01:21 PM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Travis, I asked a couple of years ago about Glass replacement parts for Al cars.
Today Aluminum Heads are allowed on many Fords, Chevy and aftermarket manifolds and trans 3 speeds instead of 2 speeds.
If No aluminum Fenders are being made or Hoods or Fenders I am confused as to Why Stock Appearing Kevlar, Fiberglass parts are not allowed in NHRA. Is it a Chrysler deal to prevent other cars coming back to eliminator? Is it just slow thinking? on the part of NHRA? If Dove Heads, Edelbrock Heads are on the motor how is the Aluminum fender making the car more stock or SS qualified?

X-TECH MAN 01-29-2010 01:56 PM

Re: Legal Stocker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 165871)
IHRA told me I could use the fiberglass parts on my '64 Max Wedge but they had to be obtained from a certain manufacture but (get this) they didn't know who it was.

Does anyone out there know who makes these parts?

Appreciate the help,

JimR

I mentioned this before on this forum. Its been to long ago for me to remember the companys name and I doubt there is anyone left working at IHRA who remembers when this became legal and what company was involved. Mike Baker (National Tech Director) was more involved with the Pro cars and I was about the only one who really cared about stock and super stock at that time. Call Jack McCormick (he was involved with this decision many years ago along with people who worked at MoPar performance but I doubt those guys are still around either.) or Phil Baldiccino (570-923-0176) anytime as he runs his own business in the mountians of Penn. He will answer unless he just happens to be on his weekly grocery run. Phil is probably the easiest to get on the phone. Phill is a great guy and a true Max Wedge racer and fan. Phil uses the companys fiberglass on his 63 Max Wedge and is a hard core IHRA stock eliminator racer.


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