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art leong 03-09-2010 06:27 PM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
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Originally Posted by bubski (Post 173994)
no record ? does this mean no teardown just instant horsepower?

That is exactly what happened

bubski 03-09-2010 06:52 PM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
not to rain on anyones parade, not making acusations either but if this happened to say any upper class stocker this board would be buzzing with discontent like it has in the past. guess no one cares cause it doesnt affect them ,good way to show we only care when its our combo. again not to say they werent legal but before you hit the horsepower you should be torn down to remove all doubt as you give horsepower to everyone and your legality should be checked

Bruce Witherspoon 03-09-2010 07:39 PM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
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Originally Posted by bubski (Post 174021)
not to rain on anyones parade, not making acusations either but if this happened to say any upper class stocker this board would be buzzing with discontent like it has in the past. guess no one cares cause it doesnt affect them ,good way to show we only care when its our combo. again not to say they werent legal but before you hit the horsepower you should be torn down to remove all doubt as you give horsepower to everyone and your legality should be checked

Need not worry about this one! It is so far on the correct side that it would amaze even the skeptics. In any case the thing was apart last year in Michigan if you have any doubts.

Marine One 03-09-2010 08:05 PM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
I think he means in general - if NHRA is going to use your run to dictate / create policy, they should validate the legitimacy of the run first. Then again, start tearing everyone down all the time and many people will stop handing over cash to NHRA to run national events. Too much BS.

art leong 03-09-2010 08:09 PM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
I think anyone that gets the instant hit should be torn down. But I guess NHRA figures everyone would just make sure they got tossed for some minor infraction.

bubski 03-09-2010 09:23 PM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
no doubts, this is not a personal attack. however this is class racing you go that fast you should be checked. the few facing teardown for doing this should know this is how it works. i cant see that lowering entries ,as you may be torndown anyway at a national event even if your .2 under. as far as getting tossed for something minor on purpose give them some time off to think about it. i get where your coming from ,but to turn a blind eye on the bulls/it , just gives people the right away to push it even further .

danny waters sr 03-10-2010 07:53 AM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
I have always thought (in my opinion) that before a combo gets hit , that it should be checked. This way * if you get hit it is lagit *. I would hate to know someone got me hp and was not legal at the time they ran so fast. If 1.25 under is the # then it should come also with immediate tear down and checked at that race, with hp pending tear-down outcome. my .02 worth !

art leong 03-10-2010 08:00 AM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
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Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 174101)
I have always thought (in my opinion) that before a combo gets hit , that it should be checked. This way * if you get hit it is lagit *. I would hate to know someone got me hp and was not legal at the time they ran so fast. If 1.25 under is the # then it should come also with immediate tear down and checked at that race, with hp pending tear-down outcome. my .02 worth !

I agree with you. And have always said that they should verify. But if they did this how many cars would come up with something or other to get the tossed and not get the horsepower. Much like taking weight out to fail at the scales.
Maybe an automatic 6 month vacation would stop this.

danny waters sr 03-10-2010 08:12 AM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 174103)
I agree with you. And have always said that they should verify. But if they did this how many cars would come up with something or other to get the tossed and not get the horsepower. Much like taking weight out to fail at the scales.
Maybe an automatic 6 month vacation would stop this.

Then the run is no good & nobody's combo gets hit and driver is D Q'd at that event and must be torn down at next race and pass. The next toss would be a longer suspension. No refunds . Ladder would be as if this driver never existed.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-10-2010 09:35 AM

Re: Ooops! Somebody Just Got HP!
 
Seems all reasonable to me and Im new :)

It seems to suck that someone across the country's rating could be hurt by someone who may not be "kosher"

But in several conversations with Tech their opinions were that well over half of the "UnKosher" items are not intentional and rather accidents. (I do NOT know if they were talking about motor or just across the board)

But cheaters (and I know a large percentage of improper items are NOT a result of intent but rather accidental) How are those dealt with , only certain items get a DQ and a suspension ?

Is it only a suspension if it was blatant ? Or anything at all ?


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