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Rich Biebel 05-10-2010 06:35 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
All sports have taken advantage of modern devices....

Bowling.....reactive resin balls
Golf............titanium and other exotic materials for clubs
Swimming and other racing type sports........trick suits that cut drag
Nascar........The list is endless
F-1...............Even more endless


So NHRA Stock and SuperStock should resist all the modern ways to help a driver be more competetive.......

Delay boxes are illegal but other ideas and devices have helped improve RT's...

No device stages or launches the car........and no device drives the car down track......

Michael Beard 05-10-2010 06:39 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
I have no problem with my competition using a brake-pedal button activated 2-step... *because* they are inherently inconsistent! :rolleyes: In any case, it's still just one more thing you've added to the system that can screw up. I've witnessed several important races lost due to 2-step issues. I'll keep foot'n it, thanks. If you "have" to use a 2-step, the only way to do it is with a brake pressure switch. I think Folk sells them.

- Footbraker

X-TECH MAN 05-10-2010 07:16 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
Your not going to like this but all of these driver aids are for people who cant drive a nail with a hammer. Michael Beard has it right and several others I know. Before all of this crap came into existence you had to know how to drive to go rounds. It brought the good drivers to the top of the food chain. These are the ones who understood the timming system and how it worked. They studied the track and new how to play the finish line. Gee's some of you guys/gals cant even shift gears on a run without help.

Pat6868 05-10-2010 07:23 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
X Tech, sounds alot like pure stock to me. Pat

Michael Beard 05-10-2010 08:00 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
I think a lot of folks look at NOT having driver aids like 2-steps, blinders, automated shifters, etc. as a disadvantage. On the surface, that might seem to make sense, but to me, it's like training wheels on a bike. There's no doubt that training wheels make it easier to ride a bike, and maybe you even need them for a time. But it's a bandaid, in my opinion. By taking the training wheels off, you may struggle a little bit at first, but in the long run, you're going to be MUCH better. I feel there are advantages to NOT having driver aids. You will be more focused, more adaptable, and there are strategic advantages as well (if you see me at the track, feel free to ask). Challenge yourself to be better than you are.

$.02,

Bobby DiDomenico 05-10-2010 08:37 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 186537)
So If I drive with hand controls where am I allowed to put the switch?

Guessing if the hand control brake system released it, it is ok, just no finger button.

Have a friend who had the 2-step switch on the brake pedal and lent his car out, the new driver actually broke the button. I couldn't bring my self to ask him how that could possibly happen.

Rich Biebel 05-10-2010 10:30 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
[QUOTE=X-TECH MAN;186580]Your not going to like this but all of these driver aids are for people who cant drive a nail with a hammer. QUOTE]


A nail gun drives nails very nicely. You never hit your thumb, or miss the nail and hit the wood and damage it..........


Ask a carpenter if he would rather use a hammer or the proper nailgun.....

I am in the process of doing a lot of home rennovation work and am still working in the dark ages with a hammer.......


PS......I was always a footbreaker in Stock and also in bracket racing long after delay boxes and 2 steps were in use........


Very few people have the ability of someone like Michael Beard.......

I don't think it is good to have just a few people dominate....

Peter Ash 05-10-2010 10:49 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 186537)
So If I drive with hand controls where am I allowed to put the switch?

Hook it to the stock brake pedal, just like the brake lite switch. Hand controls do not require special rules or treatment.
t5

X-TECH MAN 05-10-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
[QUOTE=Rich Biebel;186611]
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 186580)
Your not going to like this but all of these driver aids are for people who cant drive a nail with a hammer. QUOTE]


A nail gun drives nails very nicely. You never hit your thumb, or miss the nail and hit the wood and damage it..........


Ask a carpenter if he would rather use a hammer or the proper nailgun.....

I am in the process of doing a lot of home rennovation work and am still working in the dark ages with a hammer.......


PS......I was always a footbreaker in Stock and also in bracket racing long after delay boxes and 2 steps were in use........


Very few people have the ability of someone like Michael Beard.......

I don't think it is good to have just a few people dominate....

Most dont study HOW to race. They just throw money at the car. Guys like Michael Beard and the late Bob Maxey (yeah a bracket racer) of the "Clinton Shaker" fame and many more like the late Steve Taylor from N. Carolina learn and work hard at what it takes to win in handicap style racing. They dont rely on band aids.

Rich Biebel 05-10-2010 11:13 AM

Re: Attn: NHRA / IHRA Tech .....here we go again ..
 
Terry....maybe I'm wrong but as I recall Bob Maxey might have had a delay box before they were common......Maybe it was just the typical rumors made up about people that won to much.......He won a lot.....


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