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Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins (Post 187138)

Thanks for the congrats Jim and Joe. My point is the track operator is bending over backwards and genuinely loves stock and ss and is trying to help us grow...but, there are not enough s/ss racers w/in the 140 miles (2 hours 40 min. per mapquest) that seperate the two to make both locations successful if scheduled together. By the way, those roads on Mapquest go both ways, I've surely made my fair share of trips to Kinston. These cars are not top e.t. or footbrake cars that you regularly have 100 show up at all tracks on any given Saturday night.
That being said, hopefully that issue has been remedied by the new Sunday races at Kinston.
Now, do we need a larger guaranteed purse? Two day races? We had iron tree trophies last year, do we need those back? Any ideas?

Well said Tracy. I agree .Maybe this will help car count in both areas. Congrats againon your win.

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Tracy,
I like those iron tree trophys.
With all these combos popping up making me wish I had a stocker again. Can I run a Production class with my Hot Rod car. No interior-Fiberglass-Delay Box. I'm sure ya'll would'nt mind.
Chip

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Thanks Danny...Chip just because you have a hood scoop on your car doesn't make it legal for production super stock!

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I for one would rather race these combos than the regular races. Less entry fee, and usually more payout. Less time, more fun, more variety of cars, etc.

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The Guaranteed money is not always worth the effort. Everyone wonders where are all of the Class Racers? Why do they not come out to the events? What starts out as a very simple informational thread ends up being 3 or more page long of what is wrong with this or that car or that individual. The class racers are all out racing somewhere else and having fun doing it. (Pinks All Out, Pass Time, and the list goes on). I am too old and been doing this too long to spend my money and time to drive 2 or 3 hours just to end in an argument and mess up my whole day racing. We have a 99% NHRA/IHRA legal Super Stock car, just got me a locking transmission cap before going to Z-Max last night. Have not been able to run one single combo race. The problem is with the class we are required to run because we have a fiberglass hood, which I happen to like and have for many years. Without that hood we would be easily able to run in another class, and be competitive, but I like the hood. (Have not yet figured out the exact amount of horsepower that hood should produce.)

We can race, and generally do, at least every other week-end and sometime twice a week-end at all of the tracks. We go, 3 generations, as a family and go to have fun. If we win then that is good too. We were invited to a race last night at Z-Max Dragway, "NASCAR Industry Night." All of the proceeds went to the NASCAR Children's Charity." They brought in Drag Racers, NHRA/IHRA and some Bracket Racers to race against NASCAR drivers, Owners, Rick Hendricks was there with his camaro, and Mechanics with their drag race cars, street cars and street rods. Everybody raced, test-n-tune, grudge race and head-up pro-tree, all depending on which of 7 lanes you chose to race in that run. No prize money, no trophy, no hats or what ever just racing for fun. Cars ran continuously from 5:00 pm to 10:00 pm. The track had dinner for the competitors, we all pitted together and had fun racing and sharing stories. Got home around 1:30 am. Now we are packing to go tomorrow to race at the Super Stock Reunions on Friday and Saturday. Might race Friday at Super Stock Reunion at Piedmont and then leave and go to Virginia for the "Best of Times Reunion." Don't have to argue over the class of the car and if it has the wrong chrome trim. We race and have fun. We support all of the tracks and track Owners. By-the-way Roy Hill was at Z-Max with his Mustang, not a Ford Fan, but that is one nice clean car and OH yes it runs good for it's class.

It would help if the Track Owners, Managers and Race Promoters would advertise the races. Lots of people do not know when the tracks run races, everyone does not go on the internet to hunt for a place to race. Example being, we do not live in the Charlotte area where the race last night was advertised on tv and radio and we would not have know about it except we were contacted to come and race. Make the costs reasonable avoid so many conflicts, don't worry about whether the car beside you in the staging lanes has the correct bolts in it. Just have fun and race.

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Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 187125)

I wouldn't exactly say that i am stupid. These tracks are over 3 hours apart and i don't think we had not one car that runs the Roxboro combo races. Besides that i have fixed it by running on Sundays. Now we all have a choice to run both or one or none. Good Luck to all and hope to see some of you in the future.

I wasn't calling you stupid, just the scheduling. You would've had at least 1 more car(me) on a diff. date. Granted most of the Kinston regs don 't come to Roxboro, but alot of the Roxboro regs. have and will go to Kinston. The tracks aren't 3 hours apart if a competiter lives between them both. Anyway, you've fixed that and i applaud and appreciate your efforts with this and at IHRA.

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Originally Posted by THE LEGEND (Post 187127)

Jim,
I saw nothing in Tracy post about another race. Roxboro or KDS have never drawn a lot of cars for a combo. In fact nobody in the Carolinas have. I've never seen over 50. It's a shame the racers won't support it with fine promoters like we have here. At least the tracks are trying. If the combos go away you can only blame the racers.
That being said I have some thoughts why nobody shows:

1) No national publicity
2) No iron man
Like I always said " We race for jackets hats and trophys. The money is spent before we get it.
3) No contingency to fuss about not getting.
4) No Qualifying sheets
5) People like the multi day events. It's like they go to a party and hope a race breaks out.
6) No prestige
7) No NHRA/IHRA appeal.
8) I think another thing is still the economy. It cost a lot of money to go racing. In the southeast many of us have already ran 5-10 races this year. If you hav'nt won anything it's starting to be costly. Look at the entry list at the NHRA races now vs. 5 years ago.
I had a racer tell me he could'nt afford to go to a one day divisional race a wear his car out for the $1500 to $2000 he would get for a win. What makes you think they will come out for $1,000.

Fayetteville is having a combo this saturday. $3,000 to win with 75 cars. How many do you think will be there?

Chip Johnson

Chip, i'm not sure about your post. Roxboro has had these races on their website most of the year and have been having these stock superstock combos for the past 5 years... so i assumed you knew they had them always on the 2nd sat...... I don't know about everyone else, but just the cost to field a stock or ss car anymore has hurt the participation numbers. We (in the 70's,80's and early 90's) had 80-60-30 cars on any ss weekend in that decade order. I've heard many times from the 90's forward from spectators "man, i would love to run class-just can't swing it anymore with a family" Me... the rest of you list you can keep, i love the competion of the sport.... outdriving and outtuning! I will be again thrashing another allnighter trying to debug my 57 on fri nite(fuel gremlins) to make Fayetteville sat. hope to be there and fast!

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Jim,
I think we agree on one thing COST has hurt.

I remember in the 70's we ran you had 3 classes Stock, Super Stock/Modified, & Bracket. Usually Stock had the largest car count and the purse was usually $100 win $50 r/u. My daddy was running stock then and we raced 4 nights a week.

Bring your car to FMSP Friday night too. I will see ya on Saturday.
Chip

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Jim ,I will go to Roxboro and race when i can and when time and money allows ,but cannot afford to get involved in the points due to the COST as you just posted. I hope to see you and others at some of the Kinston races . I think the Sunday deal will probably best suit us and still gives an opportunity to have more places to race.I hope we all enjoy this chance to do what we love ,regardless what track we do it at. I THANK Fayetteville, Roxboro and Kinston for their love and interest for class racing and i will do what i can to support it. See ya'll in Fayetteville. Also THANKS to the classracers that support these type races ,without you we could not have them. Like Chris3racing says ,we supposed to have fun .Hope we all happy now,I am .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

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me??? i could have easily done either or, that's two cars right there plus Jim would make 3, AND if I'm not mistaken there were several others that asked the question why were they on the same day? Doesn't matter now, it's been fixed and we can run them both with nominal travel. Hell, I don't care about the money, didn't get into it for that, I just want 1 round!

IF we could find a big enough trailer and some extra drivers we could just go raid Jim's barn and have More cars! :D

C y'all at Coastal Plains, I'm going to the beach to ride the Harley this weekend.