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Mack Reeves 11-13-2010 11:43 AM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth (Post 221865)
Whether the CJ’s and DP’s are soft or not (and I will throw my combo into that comment also for you whiners) it’s a shame that a PERFORMANCE BASED class could be destroyed by a bunch of whining crybabies who figure the way to move up the qualifying sheet is to complain about the guys at the top rather than working on their stuff or picking a better combo.
Flame away….. Seems to be the only thing some of you are really capable of. Maybe try spending some time on a dyno instead of a keyboard you may be surprised with the results.


Best post on this thread yet.......

Bob Pagano 11-13-2010 11:45 AM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
Bill your wrong, there are a half a dozen cars in Div. 1 alone that are tops in their class, they have spent much money and dyno time and will still not ever catch the new cars, You are not going to get that much hp out of carb car that has been flogged for the last 5 years under the current rules period.....

MikeFicacci 11-13-2010 11:58 AM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
Just wait 'til these guys take the beehive springs out and really turn some Super Stock rpm.

boostedf22c 11-13-2010 12:34 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
I'm with Teuton. I checked into this thread to see the result of this race. And imagine that, another whine thread about CJ and DP cars. :rolleyes:

aspen7709 11-13-2010 12:39 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
As someone who is DIRECTLY affected by the underfactored built on paper ringers they call cars .I am appalled that a roller cam aluminum intake injected roller rocker high compression purpose built race piece is the EXACT same 284 hp factor as my all iron hydraulic flat tappet emmisions low lift iron intake plastic carb low copression engine with 70's castings and that was actually produced for use by the masses. These cars were built on the same premis that the hemi darts & cudas were built on. PUT THEM IN SUPER STOCK WHERE THEY BELONG. This has caused me to park my currently worthless ride until they factor out or I find something else to build that I can afford!HA HA
Kenny Newsome 7709 H/SA on hiatus til further notice.

Rick Leininger Jr. 11-13-2010 12:39 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 221872)
Just wait 'til these guys take the beehive springs out and really turn some Super Stock rpm.

I'm surprised that the new valve spring rule (anything that fits the OE pocket)hasn't got more attention?

This can help any combo get more aggressive with rpm and cam profiles, IF you can find a rocker that will take it.

Chad Rhodes 11-13-2010 12:40 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
What a ****storm over one comment. I said I hope they both get hp, an if they both run all the way to the stripe that's what would happen. You know a good old fashioned drag race.

As for Sean, I've never had anything at all against him, he's a hell of a racer, and I have said as much. He apparently has something against me, although ive neve met him. Hopefully one day i have that opportunity. I will not, however let someone make smartass, douchebag comments and not respond to them My opinion of the cj/dp cars is not to be confused with any personal feelings involved toward anyone racing one of these cars. I consider Jeff Teuton a friend, and think his car is pretty cool. I also understand the struggles he had with his older car. I still think the factor is soft.

Racer 6x64 11-13-2010 12:50 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
I have to comment on this. I read this forum almost every day and while I may not be a class racer, well not yet anyways. I have been around racing for over 30 years. My dad ran Super Stock in the 80's and the thing that a lot of the guys on the site don't get is, all the horsepower or soft classes or whatever is only effective in a heads up affair. The other 99.9 % of the time it is a good ole bracket race. Let me see if this makes any sense at all, a guy by the name of Dan Fletcher has won a ton races and he by no means has anywhere near the fastest car in his class.

The sport as it stands is hanging on by a thread as it is. The NHRA and a lot of local tracks are treating racers like crap, the payouts are a joke and as the people that get treated like crap why would anyone spend all this effort into ripping someone for what car they have or how they run it. I would say there are definitely bigger fish to fry then tearing a fellow racer a new one for owning a new car.

If Ford, Dodge, or GM told NHRA to make the horsepower rating 200 they would. Racing has gone back to big corporate payoffs so that there is once again race on Sunday and sell on Monday. I can sure tell you that its a lot easier for someone to leave the track and go buy a new Mustang than it is to find a 68 Camaro or 64 Savoy.

If I am way off base then I do apologize. But when I see racers ripping into other racers it is just not a good thing. Let's not make more problems. All racers and race fans should be working towards a solution so that racing is a lot more fun once again.

Stewart Way 11-13-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
Could be wrong but I don't think the valve spring rule will help the DP hemis. The beehive spring is needed on these engines to clear the underside of the rockers. A regular spring won't fit under them.

jmcarter 11-13-2010 01:18 PM

Re: Cj vs drag pak first round
 
Apparently Cour turned up the wick on the supercharged car, 9.84/124 beat Norton's 9.86/133. He trailed at 60 foot but was considerably faster at the 660

Sorry to interrupt the moaning...


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