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tj310 01-05-2012 11:08 AM

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Did anyone bother to click on the link in the original posting ? ----Head protector Harold
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Travis Miller 01-05-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tj310 (Post 302401)
Did anyone bother to click on the link in the original posting ? ----Head protector Harold
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The link is the first thing I looked at but when it comes to Stock Eliminator, Class Requirements still override statements made about General Regulations no matter where they are posted.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions. When it comes to teching a vehicle, we will see how my opinions hold up.)

Jeff Lee 01-05-2012 01:19 PM

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As the NHRA online answer was a question about an F/SA GM A-Body, the answer was poorly written. Based on that answer, and that answer alone, I'd say a racer could put a integeral headrest seat in the car.
I'd say NHRA tech needs to re-address the issue for clarity. NHRA did not specify that a head bumper (or whatever you call those) attached to the roll bar may be acceptable, nor did they specify that a factory make / model / year seat is the only seat allowed.
And when did NHRA mandate the seat be from the same make / model / year anyways? Previously it was mandated the seat was from the OEM but did not mandate the same year / model.

Alan Roehrich 01-05-2012 03:59 PM

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While it isn't the clearest response possible, it does mention the requirement of particular classes for "low back" seats.

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The photo in General Regulations section 20, page 40 is a great example of padded head protector with a low back seat. This would also apply to any class that has low back seats requiring a roll bar or roll cage.


It appears that clearly addresses the question of a class such as Stock Eliminator having a specific seat requirement.


NHRA is never going to be the poster child for clarity. I figure that is why the guys in tech, when asked a question, or presented with a quandary, will almost always tell you to "get in writing from Glendora". Which is why I always tell people, if you have a disagreement with the rule book and/or tech inspector, get clarification from Glendora in writing and keep it with the car at all times.


Travis Miller 01-05-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 302433)
And when did NHRA mandate the seat be from the same make / model / year anyways? Previously it was mandated the seat was from the OEM but did not mandate the same year / model.

The wording was added to the 2011 rulebook.

For many years the rule was clear enough and everyone understood that the correct seats must be used in each stocker. Then a few weight conscious stock racers around the country began pushing the rule by using a 4dr bench seat in a 2dr stocker because "it was an OEM seat of the same manufacturer as the car." One stock racer even went as far as to have a dark stripe sewn in the middle of the solid upright part of the 4dr seat making it appear at a glance that it was a seat from a 2dr car that could fold forward allowing access to the rear seat area.

Another typical case of pushing a rule too far.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Tom keedle 01-05-2012 08:03 PM

Re: NHRA answers the seat question
 
kinda on the same subject.... is it OK to brace the seat back so it doesn't recline?
rambler guys know what i mean;)...

Travis Miller 01-05-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 302542)
kinda on the same subject.... is it OK to brace the seat back so it doesn't recline?
rambler guys know what i mean;)...

Bracing the seat back on a stock seat is allowed, especially one that could go under the crossbar.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Dave Turner 01-06-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 302351)
This was a cheap shot to FJ and the IHRA and totally irrelevant, untrue and unnecessary. Shame on you. If I were FJ, I would send "Too Tall" Dave Turner over to your house to beat you to a pulp! Jim


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Polhill lives closer.....and he's a lot meaner than me. :p

Dave Turner 01-06-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Savelle (Post 302270)
Trevor What Travis said is the Bible ........ but if you are only going to race in the FJ Smith Hot Rod Association or the IHRA you will get away with it .....

Mike, we all choose a slightly different direction at the "crossroads" don't we?? :rolleyes:

Jim Wahl 01-06-2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 302607)
Polhill lives closer.....and he's a lot meaner than me. :p

Polhill........ mean? Hahaha! He's a wimp! Jim:eek:

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