Re: More brake holding power
 

Also try adding a firewall brace so the pedal effort goes into pushing the master. Most cars have ALOT of firewall flex.

My .02 :)

Re: More brake holding power
 

Myron, who in your opinion makes the best cold holding brake pad?

Re: More brake holding power
 

Nelson,
To be honest, I haven't compared organic materials between brands. I just noticed that not all brands use organic material and that even some of the cheaper brands can still be semi-metallic. Semi-metallic work better when heated through typical stop-and-go street traffic.

There are plenty of good suggestions, like buying 2 sets of shoes and only using the larger size 1/2's in front and back positions, or relining your shoes and pads with softer material typically used in other applications, like forklifts. I use OEM replacements to keep costs down. Some are obvious or listed accordingly, but if you are unsure about which pads or shoes to buy at a store, bring a magnet and the ones showing less magnetic holding power will tend to have less or no metallic filling.

I probably cut the rotors/drums and sand or replace my brakes more often than average to maintain good, flat contact surfaces.

Re: More brake holding power
 

Myron, you have a PM

Re: More brake holding power
 

OK, let's try this again !!!! the brake place here in Phoenix is a complete joke. I took my stuff down there, explained what I wanted to both the counter guys, I even explained it to the guy doing the work. I explained it wasn't for a street vehicle and they kept pushing for the semi-metallic stuff. I explained it wasn't for the street over and over again. They finally showed me 3 different types of material and I picked out what I wanted and they said ok, but kept pushing the semi- metallic. When I went to pick it up, guess what...... they put the semi-metallic on. I told them that isn't what I asked for or wanted... they tried to tell me it was what I picked out... it's a totally different color even. Then they didn't even arch the shoes, and said they did.... you can tell it wasn't done... then tried to tell me it was my fault. The product was wrong, customer service was bad, and then it's my fault. I will NEVER go back and NEVER recommend them to anyone. Soooooo.....
Who else can I send some shoes to?? at this point, I will even go out of state if there isn't anyplace here in town or in state.... Thanks again guys !!

Re: More brake holding power
 

Hmmm. I haven't heard of anyone "arching" shoes in over 30 years.

I just replaced the front shoes on my car and suspect they have more metalic than I'd like but haven't tried them yet. Went through the pushing out of the burnout box on a similar set a few years back. Ended up buying 3 different brands until I found some that looked like they were made out of cardboard and they worked fine. Having trouble geting them again, 4 years later.

Re: More brake holding power
 

This is my recommendation, fwiw.
http://www.ottsfrictionsupply.com/ho...TOKEN=48391762
http://www.ottsfrictionsupply.com/contact.cfm

Re: More brake holding power
 

put aftermarket brakes on the old wagon few years back and we put two calipers on rear i also use circle track pads called gators on the front (roundy round pads have several friction options)... now i can hold the line at over 4000rpm w/o twostep AND this thing will just STOP at the big end > just perfect for dumping those 140mph guys > two years ago i had a winning et slip with 63mph on it
:) :)

captain jack