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Tom keedle 05-10-2012 06:53 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
question; how is a rack gonna be any stronger than a centerlink if you've got a rod beating the snot out of it?
last i checked, they'll be in the same general area and, btw, i see broken racks (oem) every now and then...

NWDragracing 05-10-2012 06:54 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 325932)
You never answered Why you think the older cars are unsafe! Are you after a r&p for your Chevy II?
There are a few cars that I have seen develop cracks on the cross members and also on the lower control arms from wheel stands including ball joints go thru the lower control arm mount.

There are many cars out there that have reinforced lower control arms for this reason.

Many of the Global West lower and upper bushing kits come with reinforcement plates too.

BlueOval Ralph 05-10-2012 07:00 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Just how many of the Hemi's have had this failure? Ran in the high 8's 35 years ago big wheel stands and all!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Bennett (Post 325934)
ask any of the Hemi guys about breaking a box and losing steering. Of course, I'd love to have a modern day manufactured rack and pinion on my wagon -- running in the nines as opposed to the stock unit. Who wouldn't?

Bobby Bennett 05-10-2012 08:15 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Ask Steve Kent about them.

SPS 05-10-2012 08:30 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Bobbie,
Like I said before, there are very qualified chassis builders working within the rules to make all these cars safe to drive at speed. A lot of engineering goes into the steering among all other parts of the Super Stock racecar chassis.

We are NOT interested in making another super gas class!

FJ Smith

NWDragracing 05-10-2012 09:50 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPS (Post 325971)
We are NOT interested in making another super gas class!
FJ Smith
Yep, very interesting comment from a shop that builds Super Stock cars with SFI 25.2 and SFI 25.5 cages,Pinto Rack & Pinions, along with tubular K-Members and lower control arms. :confused: :rolleyes:

Bobby Bennett 05-10-2012 10:08 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
FJ, I have the utmost of respect for what you've done and accomplished in this sport.

But, putting a rack on an old school Camaro, Nova or Mustang is far from Super Gas. Putting a rack on a SS/AH car is not Super Gas either.

SPS 05-10-2012 10:22 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
I will tell you this much, it ain't that easy.

It would require a lot of changes in components that are deemed stock to use for the model(s) in question.

Believe me, I, and others, have no doubt tried these changes in the past.

FJ

Chad Rhodes 05-10-2012 11:18 PM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Doesn't NASCAR still use a "box" style steering?

BlueOval Ralph 05-11-2012 08:10 AM
Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Yes


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