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X-TECH MAN 09-15-2012 02:30 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
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Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ (Post 345308)
How many people can chase around the country today, not to many,,
If your going to race close to home where it's IHRA & NHRA
The Crate Motor is the only way to go,
It's the only way a young racer can race now day's...
They can't spend $ 35,000 Plus on a stocker.
Look around at the races How many young people do you see ?
NHRA may end up with Crate Motor's,,
Parts are harder and harder to find for the BB & SB

Ken....Id be willing to bet that since I left IHRA the majority of the REALLY FAST crate engined stockers are bogus. The few I have seen and hear about have enhanced heads and intakes. Not to mention moved ring lands (allowed now), lite piston and rod assemblys and toyota sized rod journals. Its like building an NHRA engine.

Jack McCarthy 09-15-2012 02:44 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
id love to race ihra, two races here close...
but i cannot go race where the other 283's are rated at 210 and i am 215 with smaller carb, larger cc's and more deck height... AND they get THE 459 intake !!!!!!!!

baker seems uninterested in my $$ or fairness.

captain jack

lets see what'd i fit with a 502 @ 4500lbs ???
i can diet :)

442OLDS 09-15-2012 03:52 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
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Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy (Post 346752)
id love to race ihra, two races here close...
but i cannot go race where the other 283's are rated at 210 and i am 215 with smaller carb, larger cc's and more deck height... AND they get THE 459 intake !!!!!!!!

baker seems uninterested in my $$ or fairness.

captain jack

lets see what'd i fit with a 502 @ 4500lbs ???
i can diet :)

All of these cars race in the same class as you?

Jack McCarthy 09-15-2012 09:39 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
darryl they can run u/sa with it & besides it is principle ... would you race if another 455 was wrong ?

jack

KEN BUGAJ 09-16-2012 08:16 AM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 346747)
Ken....Id be willing to bet that since I left IHRA the majority of the REALLY FAST crate engined stockers are bogus. The few I have seen and hear about have enhanced heads and intakes. Not to mention moved ring lands (allowed now), lite piston and rod assemblys and toyota sized rod journals. Its like building an NHRA engine.

Terry,
We all know who they are, (lol)
Didn't know you could move the top ring ? that's news ?
I know our stuff has been checked at the track and legal,,,
NHRA & IHRA both have bogas stockers ,I bought one and had to spend to fix it !!
What I'm saying is that for a young guy wanting to build a stocker and not spend $ 30,000
the crate motor is the way to go. That's if you have the track's to race.

X-TECH MAN 09-16-2012 10:27 AM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ (Post 346798)
Terry,
We all know who they are, (lol)
Didn't know you could move the top ring ? that's news ?
I know our stuff has been checked at the track and legal,,,
NHRA & IHRA both have bogas stockers ,I bought one and had to spend to fix it !!
What I'm saying is that for a young guy wanting to build a stocker and not spend $ 30,000
the crate motor is the way to go. That's if you have the track's to race.

Maybe Danny Waters could jump in here. The last time I kept track of it all the pistion had to do was "LOOK STOCK" from the top when the head was removed as in flat tops, valve reliefs or correct dome if the claimed engine called for it. Havent heard much about tear downs in a long time except for those setting a record. Have any oil pans been removed in the last 12 years? I sincerly doubt ANY of the fast GM or N.C. Mopars are "Stock" in the head dept. Id sure like to look at a few that come to mind.

danny waters sr 09-16-2012 12:11 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 346824)
Maybe Danny Waters could jump in here. The last time I kept track of it all the pistion had to do was "LOOK STOCK" from the top when the head was removed as in flat tops, valve reliefs or correct dome if the claimed engine called for it. Havent heard much about tear downs in a long time except for those setting a record. Have any oil pans been removed in the last 12 years? I sincerly doubt ANY of the fast GM or N.C. Mopars are "Stock" in the head dept. Id sure like to look at a few that come to mind.

No comment ,,,,,I'm retired............ just doing chassis certs now............

THE LEGEND 09-16-2012 11:24 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
Terry,
I think the last Rod pulled was about 2006 or 2007. LD Whitley at Norwalk and he was 100 % legal.
I could be wrong.
I left Stock in 08 Could'nt afford it anymore.
.90 racing easier on the wallet.
Chip

danny waters sr 09-17-2012 06:01 AM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
Well ,i could not resist ..........The records you see set at IHRA are checked ,usually before the qualifying......... OrThe engines have been either checked at the engine shop or at the track and are sealed at that time............Just because you don't see a car torn down does not mean it has not been checked.........Flame on.....................

Jim Wahl 09-17-2012 01:03 PM

Re: Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?
 
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Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 346940)
Well ,i could not resist ..........The records you see set at IHRA are checked ,usually before the qualifying......... OrThe engines have been either checked at the engine shop or at the track and are sealed at that time............Just because you don't see a car torn down does not mean it has not been checked.........Flame on.....................

Since I bought my Volare' I have had it checked and sealed every year in the comfort of my own shop. IHRA has a great program that lets you be checked and sealed at the beginning of the year so you have no worries all year unless you change something. You show up at a race and if you want to set a record or win a race all you have to do is fill in your annual inspection number and your done! Saves BBQ time and everyone knows you are legal. Can't get much easier for all involved. Jim


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