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Greg Hill 12-20-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 361705)
Don't go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back there David! Because the only thing I notice is stupidity when some no driving **** triggers a review just to thump his chest!

Boys, when you build a motor for GT you gotta know there are a lot of people out there who are gonna get it hit. Think about the guys that can buy a new motor any time they want to. Especially if it's a Chevy.

Monte Howard 12-20-2012 06:01 PM

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Charlie Bob, there would be more room for improvement if it wasn't basically a super stock motor already. Couldn't resist.

Andrew Hill 12-20-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 361657)
Tom when I try a new cam I haft to Buy two at a time. I have 3 sets on the bench that don't work @ around $1100-$1200 a set, plus the set in the car. Robin can try 6 to 7 different cams to my 3 sets. So don't tell me I don't spend the time and money on R&D. I can't tell you how many hours myself and others have spent at Holbrooks, Ronzello's & Big Stuffs trying tow find a little HP here and there.
Myself and others bulit my car from the ground up, so don't give me is BS about hard work and wanting everything right now. I work for everything I have. Just like most class racers.

Ed the 283ci 220/224HP is now 220HP in a 64-66 Chevelle.

Your welcome Norm, just think of it has a early X-mas gift.

Let's do a little comparison to that 283/220 Chevelle you're talking about and your 281/235/229 Cobra Jet.

Chevelle
283 cubic inches
9.25:1 compression
Rochester 4GC Carburetor
1.72 1.50 valves

Cobra Jet
281 cubic inches
11.0:1 compression
2x 62.5mm throttle body
2x 1.34 1x 1.50 valves

Cubic inches are a wash, compression to the CJ, carb/throttle body to CJ, valve area to CJ (plus lighter intake valves).

Take away the cam lift difference and intake difference because we're talking SS, add in the overhead cam and better heads to start with, and it's looking like that 281 of yours should be making quite a bit more power than that 283 Charley.

I'm not going to say that you don't work hard on your car because you do, it's a lot more of a real stocker than many new cars out there, but I do not believe you have built a true SS motor with all of the tricks and good parts that is necessary for most combinations to run fast.

Rusty Davenport 12-20-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Tincher (Post 361729)
Thats pretty harsh. Never considerd myself the best driver but a no driving**** kind of mean dont you think?

what are you and Worner talking about ??? You guys are not even at the STOCK hp rating for the LT1 .........isn't that kind of cheezy ????

Ed Wright 12-20-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport (Post 361760)
what are you and Worner talking about ??? You guys are not even at the STOCK hp rating for the LT1 .........isn't that kind of cheezy ????

An actual stock LT1 makes nowhere the NHRA Stock Eliminator HP rating. There is a LOT of work in those heads that is passing tech. Plus, it is a very efficient car. Light, aero-slick with a lot of natural engine set back. If it was rated at what a factory stock LT1 actually makes they would be even more dangerous.

Lew Silverman 12-21-2012 12:13 AM

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Can anyone shed some light on why the exact same motor, 1966 275HP 327 Chevy, should be rated differently in the three body styles (Nova, Chevelle and Full-size) it was originally available in? I can understand that there might have been a difference from the factory, but are people building these motors differently depending on which vehicle they are putting them in?

Thanks!

Mike Semeniuk 12-21-2012 01:07 AM

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Maybe the 327's without 4GC's are the red headed step children . Once again the 68 327-250/265 GT combo gets no reduction. . Maybe the idea is to have older cars run SS and only slipery cars run GT.! However, the 68 327/275 stock version is now 265>
anyone got a 68 Chevelle?

Rusty Davenport 12-21-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 361783)
An actual stock LT1 makes nowhere the NHRA Stock Eliminator HP rating. There is a LOT of work in those heads that is passing tech. Plus, it is a very efficient car. Light, aero-slick with a lot of natural engine set back. If it was rated at what a factory stock LT1 actually makes they would be even more dangerous.

that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????

sterling simmons jr 12-21-2012 10:49 AM

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Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now. :):)

Ed Wright 12-21-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport (Post 361859)
that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????

I don't see why. Maybe you need to build one to show the rest of us how it should be done.


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