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JimInNY 12-21-2012 12:49 AM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
I really want to thank everyone for the warm welcome! So, thank you all! :)

Phillip marvetz 12-21-2012 01:40 AM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
Mark didn't say it but I will, I don't think you will be able to get it to run the index with that combo. You might want to consider a 390 instead. Good luck either way.

Dave Noll 12-21-2012 02:08 AM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
Jim, welcome. I've got one of these Ford 2V combo's myself but mine is a 351C. I got some very expeirienced advice that believes mine to be a combo quite capable of running under. There was a small block 2V Maverick here in div. 6. That could run under, although barely,can't remember the name but I raced someone from that family @ the bracket finals one year. Good luck.

Rory McNeil 12-21-2012 03:18 AM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
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Originally Posted by JimInNY (Post 361826)
I'm sure I would do better with a 4v car too, cept that would mean a different engine also. the hi po 289 came with a 4v carb.

I need to get about 500 cfm out of this 2v. I think it can be done legally.

THE 289 Hi Po was not available in anything for 1968, all the 68 289s were 2 barrels, there was a 302 4 barrel that was used only in 68, factory rated at 230 HP, not sure what NHRA has it at. As for a 390, the 66&67 390 4 barrel is allowed a better intake and carb combo that the 68 is not. The 428 CJ was also available in 68, but not really a budget combo. We actually have had 3 or 4 different 302 2 barrel early 70s Maverick/Comets, in P,Q, &R/SA up here in Div. 6. In legal trim,none were really quick, index wise. However, a 68 Fairlane/Torino is a lot heavier than a Maverick or Comet, so I doubt that you could get the car light enough for P. Also, how would you intend to "legally" make the Autolite 2 barrel flow 500 cfm? You cant legally change the throttle blade , venturi,or booster sizes. Quite an uphill battle, i`m afraid.

david ring 12-21-2012 01:00 PM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VStock (Post 361794)
RJ, I couldn't agree more. Jim, I'm going to suggest you take that motor apart and check everything. YOU are the one who is responsible for the motor complying with the rules, not the shop that built it. Plus, you'll know exactly what you have.

Also-there is a guy down in Cobleskill who has a dyno-he is a Ford guy-he had a really fast A/SA-I think his name is Richard Todd-someone on the forum should be able to verify that for you-in any event, I think he'd be someone close by that might be of help.

Alex Denysenko 12-27-2012 04:48 PM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
welcome to class racing, nice car although I would stay awy from that 289 combo and buld the car with a FE 390 or 428, or even a 351W-4V would be better, the 289 2v would be a stone in that car probably won't run the index even after a boat load of money, and you will be eaten alive in ANY heads up. otherwise good luck.

Mike Jones 12-27-2012 07:06 PM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
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Welcome to P/SA Jim!
I campaigned this 69 Chevelle in P at Division 1 races in 2012
Had a blast
met a lot of fine people, helped me any way they could
and believe me, I needed help:)
Don`t need roll bar, driving suit or updated lap belt
I paid $139 for a SA2010 helmet, and I was good to go.
That was last year, so check the rule book
all the best to you, Jim

Mike Jones
A114 P/SA

michael mercer 12-27-2012 08:50 PM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 361843)
Jim, welcome. I've got one of these Ford 2V combo's myself but mine is a 351C. I got some very expeirienced advice that believes mine to be a combo quite capable of running under. There was a small block 2V Maverick here in div. 6. That could run under, although barely,can't remember the name but I raced someone from that family @ the bracket finals one year. Good luck.

The 71-72 comets/mavericks have been defactored to 162 hp for the 302.
The 68 289 is at 195 hp and the 302 is 210. To be competitive the 289 needs
to be around 155. It wouldn't hurt to petition nhra for a hp reduction.

Bob Emery 12-27-2012 11:40 PM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael mercer (Post 362803)
The 71-72 comets/mavericks have been defactored to 162 hp for the 302.
The 68 289 is at 195 hp and the 302 is 210. To be competitive the 289 needs
to be around 155. It wouldn't hurt to petition nhra for a hp reduction.

So then would the '66 289 2V in a Fairlane be within the same guidelines for an HP reduction petition?

Mike Schwartz 12-28-2012 03:12 AM

Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter
 
Good luck with your build. I had a similar car, a 1969 Torino GT 390, with the same roof line. Unfortunately, I crashed it driving to a race back in '79 or '80.


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