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art leong 02-20-2013 05:06 PM

Re: No lift division race
 
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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato (Post 370034)
that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

Sammy that would not work. On Sunday my car picked up .25 in the eight mile over Saturday night. And I changed nothing.
Except my drawers (LOL), after I saw the time slip.

sammy pizzolato 02-20-2013 05:43 PM

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it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

Ed Wright 02-20-2013 05:49 PM

Re: No lift division race
 
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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato (Post 370082)
it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

I liked it that way. I won points races a tenth off the record, and was closer to it than anybody else there. Jack Mullins with his big old Pontiac wagon could run under more than often anybody else I knew.

MikeFicacci 02-20-2013 05:57 PM

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I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points.

Mike Pearson 02-20-2013 06:16 PM

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You can go to an IHRA race and run as fast as you want. They do not have an AHFS system. some of the NHRA guys run real fast when they are at the IHRA events. I run both so I dont favor either HRA. Just a thought. IHRA sure could use the support too.

sammy pizzolato 02-20-2013 06:20 PM

Re: No lift division race
 
i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.

Ed Wright 02-20-2013 06:47 PM

Re: No lift division race
 
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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato (Post 370089)
i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.

And for records. We got 2 rounds worth of points for ET records if somebody else held it. One round's worth if bumping your own ET record. We got one round's points for MPH records. Not much reason to set records now, but this way it's less work for tech guys. Every time I tore down for a record it was along side two or three others. Then you had to listen to slower guys in your class grumble about it. :-)

Poor Red and Wesley didn't get to have dinner on time many Saturday evenings. LOL

Bryan Worner 02-20-2013 07:57 PM

Re: No lift division race
 
What is everyone's problem with the racers (myself included) that don't make a full pass during qualifying? Is it that you can't predict your dial off of the guy who dumps at 1000 ft? Does it make you mad that we can pick up 3 tenths for a heads up run? What's the problem? The last time I looked nobody else (except a few sponsors) pay for anything I put in my car? So I can qualify any way I want! If my opponent red lights or breaks, I can lift if I want to! It's my choice.

When the AHFS came out I was told by a tech official it was my job to slow my car down to NOT get horsepower. So if I want to lift to prevent that, oh well. I can live with myself. I know some diehards disagree, but that's how I race. Sorry if that offends you!

pauldilcher 02-20-2013 08:10 PM

Re: No lift division race
 
Bryan , You said it well.

Doug Blackley 02-21-2013 12:14 AM

Re: No lift division race
 
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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 370108)
What is everyone's problem with the racers (myself included) that don't make a full pass during qualifying? Is it that you can't predict your dial off of the guy who dumps at 1000 ft? Does it make you mad that we can pick up 3 tenths for a heads up run? What's the problem? The last time I looked nobody else (except a few sponsors) pay for anything I put in my car? So I can qualify any way I want! If my opponent red lights or breaks, I can lift if I want to! It's my choice.

When the AHFS came out I was told by a tech official it was my job to slow my car down to NOT get horsepower. So if I want to lift to prevent that, oh well. I can live with myself. I know some diehards disagree, but that's how I race. Sorry if that offends you!

Seems like too many worry about what others are doing more than they should. For the most part, everyone has a pretty fair idea who can run fast regardless of where that racer ends up on the Q sheet. Just as an example, Dan Fletcher has a very fast stocker, rarely ever shows it but we all know who builds his bullets and you know a guy of his caliber isn't about to let himself be outgunned in a heads up run. It's pretty simple, run your own program the way you want to and quit worrying about how others choose to run theirs. And if you really have to know how fast others in your class run, a subscription to Nitro Joes stats is an excellent tool to have.


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