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Run to Rund 04-14-2013 10:17 AM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
I use the clutch!

Ed Wright 04-14-2013 11:28 AM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Gullett (Post 377221)
LMAO. One more con. You will lose more friends because when you take the starting line with you when you launch and they are behind you and for some reason when they stage in your bald spot (which for some reason always seems to happen) its your fault they spin the tires!

Yep. Nobody wants to run behind a stick car. That and all the " man card" BS, "man lever" BS, etc. most of us ran stick cars back when they were harder to drive than now. Just annoying to listen to guys crow about nothing. Most of us know it's not any big deal at all. Just more work. Some of us got old enough diving under that cars is not as easy as it used to be. But, most do hate the starting line torn up. Faster stock cars don't care for bald spots either. I was sitting in the water box behind Jeff Covert's CJ at No Problem last year, saw the whole side of his car due to that lane going bald.
I never knowingly choose the same lane as a stick running ahead of me.

Jeff Lee 04-14-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Then it sounds like Ed wouldn't have a problem combining sticks and autos!

Ed Wright 04-14-2013 01:15 PM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 377427)
Then it sounds like Ed wouldn't have a problem combining sticks and autos!

Would not bother me at all. Running next to one is no problem. Behind one in the same lane is another deal. Given a minute or so to adjust the car I can hook on bald spots at least as well as an equal fast stick car. I'm sure there are SS/J cars faster than my auto car. My not knowing of it means nothing. I would still run him heads up. Combine them. It's fine with me. Stick cars are more fun to drive. I made a pass in one a couple years ago. Easier to shift and clutch pedal easier to push than what I raced in the '70s. Like riding a bike. Nothing to driving it. I'm no longer physically up to the maintenance and diving under one for adjustments. All that man this & man that crap is just stupid.

Bobby Fazio 04-14-2013 01:23 PM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Cons:
-Clutches get hot in late rounds and hit harder, changing reaction time and 60' time.. also makes it harder to pull gears too.
-Shift times vary since you are human and not a timed C02 bottle shifter.
-You argue every race with your dad about how foolish you both are and that you are switching to automatic, until you finally win one then you decide you might stick with it.

PROS:
-The crowd (if there is any) usually roots for you!
-You are up there on Alan Reinharts "Cool-o-Meter"
-That warm fuzzy feeling you get when you put a modified car on the trailer :)

Jeff Lee 04-14-2013 06:44 PM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio (Post 377429)
Cons:
-Clutches get hot in late rounds and hit harder, changing reaction time and 60' time.. also makes it harder to pull gears too.
-Shift times vary since you are human and not a timed C02 bottle shifter.
-You argue every race with your dad about how foolish you both are and that you are switching to automatic, until you finally win one then you decide you might stick with it.

PROS:
-The crowd (if there is any) usually roots for you!
-You are up there on Alan Reinharts "Cool-o-Meter"
-That warm fuzzy feeling you get when you put a modified car on the trailer :)

I completely disagree with the 1st to pro's but I won't get into it because admin will think I'm hawkin' parts.

gmonde 04-14-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio (Post 377429)
Cons:
-Clutches get hot in late rounds and hit harder, changing reaction time and 60' time.. also makes it harder to pull gears too.
-Shift times vary since you are human and not a timed C02 bottle shifter.
-You argue every race with your dad about how foolish you both are and that you are switching to automatic, until you finally win one then you decide you might stick with it.

PROS:
-The crowd (if there is any) usually roots for you!
-You are up there on Alan Reinharts "Cool-o-Meter"
-That warm fuzzy feeling you get when you put a modified car on the trailer :)

if its any consolation ,I ran a g/sa car and couldn't find the tree , the result would be way to close to the red side of the tree,, ,,one of the pros is that reaction time can be adjusted not only by air gap in the clutch, but also with the linkage of the clutch ,, I won the first race I had entered with my stick car with decent reactions times and consistency ,,I had only 12 passes on this combo ,,like mentioned if you a automatic guy/gal you are running radial tires and if those spin its like a top fuel loss of traction ,, stick cars not as bad gmonde

Patric Fox 04-14-2013 09:59 PM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
That's funny Bobby, I havn't seen your reaction times change or you argue with your dad.

Ed Carpenter 04-15-2013 12:21 AM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Ed I'll help ya if you switch!

joespanova 04-15-2013 08:40 AM

Re: Manual Trannys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 69cobra (Post 377212)
as i see it would go like this.

Pro's
1) you get your man card back.
2) you actually get to drive the car down the track and not just ride in it.
3) your wife, girlfriend and or daughter won't want to drive it.
4) one good clutch is equal to 100 convertors.
5) cost is pretty much equal compared to buying a good auto and a couple convertors.
6) your car won't leave little puddles of pink stuff under it.
7) less variables to change with the temperature of going rounds therefore making a stick more consistent than an auto the deeper you go in the late rounds.


Con's
1) you will loose friends at the track when you put them on the trailer with a stick.
2) you will loose more friends at the track when they can't borrow your spare convertor anymore.
3) you will have to become friends with someone that has experience in tuning a clutch. This is to help speed up the learning curve.

I think that's a start. :d

lol
u no dats right


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