Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

or buy a repop from flaming river/mullins/borgeson....and you can get them in aluminum,too

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

stock S-10 box wont work and it virtually the same anyway, my pitman arm is modified by Ed Quay to drop the entire steering system to clear my gigantic oil pan. The Firebird is a Super Stock/10.5 heads up car. Im just expressing my opinion on safety. My present stocker has a steering rack and doesn't run fast enough to even really need a helmet.

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

I see 'em now and then broke from street driving


(I work for an independent repair shop)

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

it really doesn't matter if the box is new or not, one of the ones I saw break was a Flaming River unit on a G body Monte Carlo.

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

I actually broke the rack on my 93 Mustang but that was my own fault hammering in a solid aluminum bushing that probably was a little too big OD

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

So YOU intentionally had a modification made to YOUR car that puts it and you into a dangerous situation(and me if I'm racing you)to clear YOUR gigantic oil pan. Well, here's a News Flash, modify the oil pan and put an S-10 box on it if you're all that concerned about safety!
OH BTW, a Vega box and an S-10 box ARE NOT virtually the same anyway,shape or form!

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

Ed Quay modified all the steering components and even installs a steering damper because otherwise the steering wheel will jerk out of your hand after coming down from a wheelie.

The only real difference is the S10 box is direct fit where a power steering box was. Ive never seen a Vega box break but I have seen 2 S10 and 1 Flaming River break.

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

Great idea..............

Just turn the world upside-down so that an 8 second, 157 MPH stocker, which doesn't even belong in stock is safer.............

If a Stocker can run over 135 MPH it should be a Super Stocker.....

Do any real Stockers run over 135 MPH?????????????

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

I don't think he is concerned about weight...his car runs 160+ I would bet that part of his tuning routine he adjusts or "ADDS" weight to the front..

X amount of total car weight with 300 or 400 hp is one thing, but the same weight in the same car with 1000, 1200 or 1500+ hp is another, I see his point

But, what do I know

Re: Stocker roll cage bar beyond firewall rule......
 

Yes

and doing it on 9" tires within the rear suspension rules of stock eliminatoris an accomplishment.